ITT we read the bible

[Reflection]

fun stuff~

so let's be honest! who here has actually read the whole thing all the way through?

umm not me.

I finished the New Testament finally last week.

of course in sunday school and stuff we'd always read random verses in Mark or Luke or Corinthians or something, but never the whole entire things or the weird books no one talks about. i.e. Philemon anyone?

so basically if anyone here [i'm kind of sort of looking at you Forever Atlas :x] could provide some info/links/answers to questions or something for lazy and/or probably retarded people like me so we don't have to go searching all over google for some simple ideas, that would be :awesome:
and khi can learn toogevers. :D

i'm about to start the Old Testament, except ones I've already read like uhh Genesis and Esther and stuff.

are there any good ways to go about this, comments about any of the books?
anything I should know first?

that's basically it
gogogo

also.
i made this thread for the "advancement of teh knowledgez" for ze christian faith, not to start bullshit arguments, so if someone does that i will probably cry and then maybe close it. >:
and who wants to do that? meanies.
learning about the religious text of christians is just as valuable to 'dem evil atheiseissts' as people of the faith. let's make the religious section productive again! k?
k.

[Gildragon]

I've read the whole old testament, and than almost 10 years later read the whole new testament.

Since your looking for general info I'm going to assume you dont' need info from the new testament since thats usually the most preached about.

A couple of heads up for books you probably haven't read in the Old Testament.

Welll Leviticus and Numbers deal with a lot of Levitical law( duh). Things like what the israelites could can couldn't do, (what they coudl eat, who they could marry, etc. ) If anything it helps to understand the way things were and can provide a little more insight into new testament verses as well.

Isaih deals heavily in prophecy. If you want to learn about what the prophets were saying about the messiah before he even came this is a very good book to read. (I've seen people read passages from Isaih, not knowing it was from Isaih, and saying it was about Jesus)

There's also song of Solomon, a long romance note. depending on the Bible you have it can be slightly confusing. One of the Bibles I have divides it up as if the man is speaking to the woman and the woman to the man and so forth. There's some very descriptive things in there that you would normally be surprised to read about in the Bible.

Sgs 4:11 Thy lips, O [my] spouse, drop [as] the honeycomb: honey and milk [are] under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments [is] like the smell of Lebanon.

Sgs 4:12 A garden inclosed [is] my sister, [my] spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

Sgs 4:13 Thy plants [are] an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard,

Sgs 4:14 Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices:

Sgs 4:15 A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.

Sgs 4:16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, [that] the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

see what I mean?

I can't think of anything else.

unless of course you are looking for something specific

[Reflection]

Is it really necessary to read all this lineage stuff?
I'm so confused, too many hebrew names.
;~;

Originally Posted by Gildragon

Since your looking for general info I'm going to assume you dont' need info from the new testament since thats usually the most preached about.

It'd still be useful to other people ^^

A couple of heads up for books you probably haven't read in the Old Testament.

Welll Leviticus and Numbers deal with a lot of Levitical law( duh). Things like what the israelites could can couldn't do, (what they coudl eat, who they could marry, etc. ) If anything it helps to understand the way things were and can provide a little more insight into new testament verses as well.

Isaih deals heavily in prophecy. If you want to learn about what the prophets were saying about the messiah before he even came this is a very good book to read. (I've seen people read passages from Isaih, not knowing it was from Isaih, and saying it was about Jesus)

Awesome, thanks.

There's also song of Solomon, a long romance note. depending on the Bible you have it can be slightly confusing. One of the Bibles I have divides it up as if the man is speaking to the woman and the woman to the man and so forth. There's some very descriptive things in there that you would normally be surprised to read about in the Bible.

lol I sang that in choir once

[Bangkok Superpussy]

I guess you could say that I've read the Bible. When I was about fourteen I decided that I wanted to really understand the religion (already an Atheist at the time) and my mom gave me her old Bible, which contains both Testaments, but it's one of those life application Bibles that has everything translated into modern English with little footnotes to help stupid people who aren't able to comprehend life outside of their own time frame. And I sort of dislike that, because I feel as if I was reading somebody's interpretive propaganda and not the real, unadulterated Bible.

Maybe if this thread catches on I'll run down to Border's and pick up a more traditional Bible. I'm definitely interested in giving it another look.

[Gildragon]

Originally Posted by Reflection

Is it really necessary to read all this lineage stuff?
I'm so confused, too many hebrew names.

You mean and he begat him who was the son of the woman here, and he aslo begat, etc. etc. etc.?

Well thats an interesting point. Necessary no.

if you are trying to study it and you get the relevance of the names to the stories it actually related to today. for example. here's somethign I posted inJanuary on EAF

My father had me just read this book.
Through a series of propheciess, blessings, in the Bible from Jacob to Joseph, his sons, and his brothers a man predicted a massive oil field in israel in the area of the Tribe of Manasseh.

Basically the blessings that Jacob gave were somewhat cryptic but hint at locations in Israel. because of the hints and how stuff works with propecy he predicted this oil field to exist.

(It would take me hours to get all the details but if you want more I can get them.)

ANYWHOO so this book written in 1981 predicted this oil field and that it woudl strecth from beyond the coast of Manasseh between the Mediterranean Sea and the Sea of Galillee .

and for years there was no oil found in that area.

Just about a week or so ago. a massive oil field was just dicovered in the sea just of the coast of Haifa (exactly where this guy predicted) and they are still locating new fields.

now if that's not interesting enought that this guy was right. on top of that Isreal is goign to be one of the most oil independant countries in the middle east. which would easilly make it target for enemies or other oil deprived coutnries such as russia and surounding countries as well.

thought it would be interesting

What does this have to do with names?

Well all these promises that were made to the twelve tribes were made well before Israel was an actual place of land. if you read up in the book the names and the blessings he bestowed on those names actually form out the map of Israel and a little bit further out. it actually forms the shape of a mans head in a crown
Where did this oil field happen to be? right where the father promised the treasure would be.

now of course it wasn't necessary but if you study it will help you to understand

It'd still be useful to other people ^^

I'll think of some other not too well known things later then.

lol I sang that in choir once

Song of solomon was made into a choir song?

[Santuary]

The only times I'v ever read the bible was when we did as part of our lessons in primary school (Elementry school) which was a Christian school. Now the bible I was given when I left is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay at the back of the closet somewhere...

My Christian beliefs are pretty much non-exsistant now. I'd say my beliefs lean more towards Buddhism.

[Raynie]

I've read the whole thing through, admittedly by force at first xD; But then you start getting into it like any other book and you just forget it's the bible in a weird way. That's how it was for me at first anyway.

I also read the Picture Book Bible, which is really intended for kids, but it's pretty fun reading the bible like a comic book. Yes, like a comic book and it does exist. :D

[Enchanted Rose]

I've read the New Testament, and started the Old Testament with Genesis and Exodus, and tried to ignore the lineage - "AND JEDEDIAH BEGOT ABDIEL x100" @_@

It's extremely interesting stuff though, (admittedly as a work of fiction as well the vessel of a religion); I'd be up for reading it along with you Reflection.

The Bible : SparkCharts

[Reflection]

Yay!
Thanks Enchanted Rose~

Originally Posted by Gildragon

You mean and he begat him who was the son of the woman here, and he aslo begat, etc. etc. etc.?

Well thats an interesting point. Necessary no.

if you are trying to study it and you get the relevance of the names to the stories it actually related to today. for example. here's somethign I posted inJanuary on EAF

What does this have to do with names?

Well all these promises that were made to the twelve tribes were made well before Israel was an actual place of land. if you read up in the book the names and the blessings he bestowed on those names actually form out the map of Israel and a little bit further out. it actually forms the shape of a mans head in a crown
Where did this oil field happen to be? right where the father promised the treasure would be.

now of course it wasn't necessary but if you study it will help you to understand

o i c.
cool stuff.

Song of solomon was made into a choir song?

pretty sure it was solomon.
or like.
someone else. .-.
it's the nunc dimittis right?

...OH WAIT that's the song of simeon.

that's embarassing.

[Square Ninja]

Tried getting through the Old Testament once, couldn't hack it. Some of those books are terribly written.

New Testament's pretty dope, though.

[Alaude Drenxta]

I've read it, twice over, several times in random verses and miscellaneous books. Reading the whole thing isn't very necessary for the big picture, which is about the dedication of the average christian.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Reflection

so basically if anyone here [i'm kind of sort of looking at you Forever Atlas :x]

Lmao! I'm just now seeing this. xD

provide some info/links/answers to questions or something for lazy and/or probably retarded people like me so we don't have to go searching all over google for some simple ideas, that would be :awesome:
and khi can learn toogevers. :D

Not quite sure what you are looking for though. :/

Do you want some background info on the books or pretty much what to look forward to? A plan/program to read it? Not quite sure.

(forgive me, my mind is over loaded with a lot of stuff I have going on right now. So things aren't registering as easily)

[Reflection]

Originally Posted by Forever Atlas

Do you want some background info on the books or pretty much what to look forward to? A plan/program to read it? Not quite sure.

It's okay :3

For me a plan to reading it sounds good. Do you have to read everything chronologically? Cause I know there's a lot of like "lineage-y" stuff with Abraham and stuff.
And is there any way to tell when a book is part of hebrew law, like does it say that?
Or is EVERYTHING in the OT part of that?

and oh stupid question - what's a Gentile?

[Gildragon]

Originally Posted by Forever Atlas

Not quite sure what you are looking for though. :/

I think jut general stuff people don't usually read or know is in the Bible. sort of like what I touched on.

It's okay :3

For me a plan to reading it sounds good. Do you have to read everything chronologically? Cause I know there's a lot of like "lineage-y" stuff with Abraham and stuff.
And is there any way to tell when a book is part of hebrew law, like does it say that?
Or is EVERYTHING in the OT part of that?

and oh stupid question - what's a Gentile?

You don't have to read all the books all the way.
Here's a year long Bible reading plan: 52 Week Bible Reading Plan

Generally if you want read a few chapters from the old, a few from the new. about 6 or so chapters total.

I also recommend reading a chapter in proverbs a day. because there are 31 of them (you'll like #31)

Most of the hebrew law books are in leviticus and numbers. it will make reference to law in other books in the OT and the NT but usually most of those questions when confusing can be easily googled.

and Gentile in the Jewish culture esssentially meant anyone that's not a Jew.

[Marcus-Boy727]

I've read the whole thing. I read it because it's important.