Room of Sleep Theory *revisited*

Naximi · September 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM

A while ago, I had this mini-theory on the Room of Sleep and here I'll elaborate.

My idea is that the Room of Sleep can reawaken spirits. The user sits in the chair and goes into a dream-like state, and can only reawaken the spirit of someone in their memories. This is a kind of literal representation of "A man is never truly gone until he is forgotten." To allow the spirit take a physical form, you need remnants of that person for them to be reborn in. If the user doesn't have strong enough memories of this person, then they still won't be able to come back to life.

EXAMPLES-

#1)AQUA- So who could possibly remember Aqua? Well we know Terra, Ven, DS, MX, and her master must have some memories of her. Terra couldn't possibly be Xehanort if he tried to bring himself back, Ven already has connections to Roxas, and MX and the other master are probably too old. The only person left is the Dark Soldier. Why would he want to bring her back though?.........and how strong are his memories of her? To the second question, I would say pretty weak. Xemnas might have been able to talk to her, but didn't remember her enough to bring her back. But he called her "old friend." How could you not remember a friend? There are a few possibilities.
a- DS/X wasn't really her old friend and just called her that for no apparent reason
b-DS/X wasn't really her old friend, but needed her help
c-Xehanort forgot most of what he knew about Aqua from BbS
d-Something happened to DS similar to what happened to Kairi when she forgot Sora
He was able to talk to Aqua, but couldn't bring her to life.

#2) TERRA- In KH2FM, we fought Terra's armor in the land where the BbS trailer took place(I don't remember the name). First of all, I doubt Terra got out alive if his armor is still intact in *insert place here*. Second, the armor acts possessed or ghostly. Apparently DS/X has gotten some life into the armor, but doesn't remember enough to fully bring Terra back. He would probably have otherwise similar relations with Terra

#3) MALEFICENT- (credit goes to Abbot) Maleficent was completely restored in KH2. She came back from her robe in Hollow Bastion. Now how would the Dark Soldier and Maleficent be connected? She could have tempted him to turn to darkness, just like somebody else we know. Riku's dark outfit and the Dark Soldier's outfit match. Being tempted to darkness is probably one of the last things a person would forget. DS/X's memories of Maleficent were strong enough to bring her back to life. Why would he want to bring her back though? To create heartless for Sora to kill.

Please give your opinions without flaming...

∞ · September 7th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Makes no sense since it's called the Room of Sleep.

493pokemon1 · September 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM

I despise highlighting to read so yeah can you fix that... eveything is invsible except Terra Aqua and Maleficent and like 3-4 letters.

As for the theory it is passable in the 4p1 standards :)

Naximi · September 7th, 2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ∞

Makes no sense since it's called the Room of Sleep.

The user is asleep, so another person is born by sleep.

Snow · September 7th, 2009, 04:44 PM

Hmm. I like it. But doesn't this somehow seem like it would fit better for Room of Awakening?

Naximi · September 7th, 2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by grimmedslug

Hmm. I like it. But doesn't this somehow seem like it would fit better for Room of Awakening?

Yeah. I think I need to reword this...

EDIT: Nevermind, I'll leave it

Tenyasyugan · September 7th, 2009, 05:01 PM

The theory is Ok, but I've always thought the room of awakening does this. Sleep seems to me a room of rememberence and Awakening a room of new beginnings. Which is, If I may add to this, why no one can truly be reborn in that room.

aweomeness96 · September 7th, 2009, 09:16 PM

i think the room of sleep is to ut you in a state of sleep to help you remember forgotten memories, and the room of awaking is to bring those memories back...

Reno/Axel · September 7th, 2009, 09:31 PM

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other master are probably too old.

Age has proven to not be a factor herd meh?
Look at MX.

Iridium · September 7th, 2009, 09:36 PM

MX honestly seems to be a special case since he has abnormal strength and abilities (possibly augmented by darkness or some other element along with his own skills)Despite being a master everyone has their limits. So age is always a factor, however, skill is as well.

Reno/Axel · September 7th, 2009, 09:50 PM

I was saying it in terms of KH wise.
The thing is i was speaking from what ive seen thus far.
I doubt darkness has anything to do with his abilities tot hat extent

Iridium · September 7th, 2009, 09:56 PM

Eh you have a point, though there has to be a slight bit of realism involved such as his hunched posture and mannerisms. And I'm sure you've seen darkness at work haven't you? Not supporting my opinion or anything.

Reno/Axel · September 7th, 2009, 10:02 PM

Thats where i see your point.
But that could be normal posture for him hard to see as of now for certain.
But ido agree darkness may be the reason for his superhumanness

Max/souleater · September 7th, 2009, 10:17 PM

what is the room of sleep??? is that where sora slept to get his memories back, or... im lost

Iridium · September 7th, 2009, 10:29 PM

It's in KH2: FM+, basically a room created by AtW's apprentices which experimentations (supposedly) took place among other things that are currently unknown.

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September 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM	#1
Naximi Keyblade Wielder Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In a magical place where nobody has to make sense so everybody does Age: 13 Posts: 403 Rep Power: 1 Level: EXP:	Room of Sleep Theory revisited A while ago, I had this mini-theory on the Room of Sleep and here I'll elaborate. My idea is that the Room of Sleep can reawaken spirits. The user sits in the chair and goes into a dream-like state, and can only reawaken the spirit of someone in their memories. This is a kind of literal representation of "A man is never truly gone until he is forgotten." To allow the spirit take a physical form, you need remnants of that person for them to be reborn in. If the user doesn't have strong enough memories of this person, then they still won't be able to come back to life. EXAMPLES- #1)AQUA- So who could possibly remember Aqua? Well we know Terra, Ven, DS, MX, and her master must have some memories of her. Terra couldn't possibly be Xehanort if he tried to bring himself back, Ven already has connections to Roxas, and MX and the other master are probably too old. The only person left is the Dark Soldier. Why would he want to bring her back though?.........and how strong are his memories of her? To the second question, I would say pretty weak. Xemnas might have been able to talk to her, but didn't remember her enough to bring her back. But he called her "old friend." How could you not remember a friend? There are a few possibilities. a- DS/X wasn't really her old friend and just called her that for no apparent reason b-DS/X wasn't really her old friend, but needed her help c-Xehanort forgot most of what he knew about Aqua from BbS d-Something happened to DS similar to what happened to Kairi when she forgot Sora He was able to talk to Aqua, but couldn't bring her to life. #2) TERRA- In KH2FM, we fought Terra's armor in the land where the BbS trailer took place(I don't remember the name). First of all, I doubt Terra got out alive if his armor is still intact in insert place here. Second, the armor acts possessed or ghostly. Apparently DS/X has gotten some life into the armor, but doesn't remember enough to fully bring Terra back. He would probably have otherwise similar relations with Terra #3) MALEFICENT- (credit goes to Abbot) Maleficent was completely restored in KH2. She came back from her robe in Hollow Bastion. Now how would the Dark Soldier and Maleficent be connected? She could have tempted him to turn to darkness, just like somebody else we know. Riku's dark outfit and the Dark Soldier's outfit match. Being tempted to darkness is probably one of the last things a person would forget. DS/X's memories of Maleficent were strong enough to bring her back to life. Why would he want to bring her back though? To create heartless for Sora to kill. Please give your opinions without flaming... Last edited by Naximi; September 7th, 2009 at 04:39 PM.

September 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM	#3
493pokemon1 Keyblade Wielder Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: im at dinner where soras food is getting cold. Where did he go? Posts: 416 Rep Power: 1 Level: EXP:	Re: Room of Sleep Theory revisited I despise highlighting to read so yeah can you fix that... eveything is invsible except Terra Aqua and Maleficent and like 3-4 letters. As for the theory it is passable in the 4p1 standards :)