Super Smash Bros. Brawl General Discussion

[Jax-Oh1]

You guy must be good compared to me..... I only the 7th best in my school's game club.... I Haven't unlocked all the caracters, trophys and can't even beat Team Pikachu in Hard Adventure Mode without a contiue...

[Maelstrom]

Well, just b/c someone wanted to hear it. . .

The first time I ever played a human opponent was when I managed to bring my cube to school. I used Link back then, and thought that his down-air sword plant and up-b would net me an instant win, considering that those attacks are sooooooooo uber (*note the sarcasm here*). I also thought that I was a great player b/c I could do rather well in Classic Mode. I fought a friend of mine, who used Fox, and he then proceeded to juggle me so that I didn't touch the ground for about 5 seconds.

He 4-stocked me.

Needless to say, this was very humiliating. In response, I immediately gave up Link, and visited message boards in order to figure out ways to get better. I soon found out about advanced techniques (i.e. wavedashing, L-cancelling, shffl'ing) and practiced them for hours in Training Mode.

After a 1.5 years of practicing advanced techs in Training Mode (which I read were absolute prerequisites for doing well at a tourney), I attended my first tourney. I thought to myself "Gee, I spent all this time practicing techniques, so I have to be good."

When they called my name, I found out I was playing Wes, a Samus player. This stunned me, b/c this was a guy who was very tourney active, and whose vids I studied--he was basically the best Samus player on the East Coast, hands down. I asked him "Hmmm. . .aren't you the best Samus on the East Coast, or something like that?" He shrugged.

When I fought him, he immediately 4-stocked me, not once, but twice. My Doc didn't touch the ground for about 5-10 seconds, and the highest percent I got him to was about 65%. . .I couldn't even take a stock off of him. I also noted that while I was madly struggling w/the controller, he seemed to be completely nonchalant about the whole thing; he wasn't even remotely trying, yet he was still raping me.

Should any of you ever go to a decent tourney, then I daresay that the above experience is something you'll go through.

[文偉立]

Originally Posted by Maelstrom

Well, just b/c someone wanted to hear it. . .

The first time I ever played a human opponent was when I managed to bring my cube to school. I used Link back then, and thought that his down-air sword plant and up-b would net me an instant win, considering that those attacks are sooooooooo uber (*note the sarcasm here*). I also thought that I was a great player b/c I could do rather well in Classic Mode. I fought a friend of mine, who used Fox, and he then proceeded to juggle me so that I didn't touch the ground for about 5 seconds.

He 4-stocked me.

Needless to say, this was very humiliating. In response, I immediately gave up Link, and visited message boards in order to figure out ways to get better. I soon found out about advanced techniques (i.e. wavedashing, L-cancelling, shffl'ing) and practiced them for hours in Training Mode.

After a 1.5 years of practicing advanced techs in Training Mode (which I read were absolute prerequisites for doing well at a tourney), I attended my first tourney. I thought to myself "Gee, I spent all this time practicing techniques, so I have to be good."

When they called my name, I found out I was playing Wes, a Samus player. This stunned me, b/c this was a guy who was very tourney active, and whose vids I studied--he was basically the best Samus player on the East Coast, hands down. I asked him "Hmmm. . .aren't you the best Samus on the East Coast, or something like that?" He shrugged.

When I fought him, he immediately 4-stocked me, not once, but twice. My Doc didn't touch the ground for about 5-10 seconds, and the highest percent I got him to was about 65%. . .I couldn't even take a stock off of him. I also noted that while I was madly struggling w/the controller, he seemed to be completely nonchalant about the whole thing; he wasn't even remotely trying, yet he was still raping me.

Should any of you ever go to a decent tourney, then I daresay that the above experience is something you'll go through.

Yet the experience must suck. The people here seem to find your fame as a SSBM master yet when againt a renowned opponent, it doesn't seem too surprising to lose. I'm pretty sure you're not that bad. Especially since you had the guts to say Yoshi is better than Marth. That itself is a great skill to claim.

The people here in my neighborhood suck. At the comic book store, The Stand (look it up online), I took place in a tournament. Turns out this was the first tournament to take place involving a video game and seeing the tournament holder wasn't prepared for it, he just threw in any game without a proper saved file, which pissed me off because I couldn't use Marth, Young Link, nor Roy. So, being that I am best with sword users and that three out of four already were out of the question, I chose him.

Yeah...everyone there sucked. Their rolls sucked, they couldn't aerial dodge, they couldn't understand how to spike people. It was irritating. One person even said I was cheap and demanded me to bring in my own saved data so he could use Ganondorf on me. So I brought it in a few days later. I shuffled my players from that point on: Young Link, Roy, and Link. There was this one 30-something year old that took down my Young Link, which wasn't so bad. He didn't devastate me, he won by a few points over and I could tell he was having a hard time. So, I whooped out Marth from that point on and just slaughtered him with that annoying combo (I had to stop using it, people said I was being cheap) but even without the combo, people despised me for constantly spiking and prevention from stage recover :P

[TwilightSora]

Well, I was expecting....more. I have done all of the advanced moves, so I shouldn't be too bad.

[Stavvy]

lol I probly suck considering I don't play SSBM constantly....So yeah......Anyone wanna list all the "Advance moves" lol I'd like to see ya try:D

[文偉立]

Originally Posted by Stavros

lol I probly suck considering I don't play SSBM constantly....So yeah......Anyone wanna list all the "Advance moves" lol I'd like to see ya try:D

o.0 Which ones?

I've learned plenty of people who aren't so great at SSBM can't perfect Marth's/Roy's combo technique. It is a bitch to use but I use it quite a lot (better than smashing a constantly anyhoo >.>).

[Stavvy]

Sigh... No clue..........any....secret or...really hard move....Don't care what...anything that it's a good idea to master.....or something...

[Maelstrom]

Originally Posted by アクラ

o.0 Which ones?

I've learned plenty of people who aren't so great at SSBM can't perfect Marth's/Roy's combo technique. It is a bitch to use but I use it quite a lot (better than smashing a constantly anyhoo >.>).

I'm faintly curious--what is this "uber" Marth combo that you keep on describing? The way you describe it, this combo seems to be some kind of unstoppable, inescapable beast that consumes all w/in its path, which I hardly think is the case.

Now, I wouldn't be so bold as to claim that your combo is useless, but if it please you, I'd like you just to describe it so I could better understand what you're talking about. The only super crazy combo that I know of that's practically inescapable and unstoppable is Fox's drillshine infinite, Sheik's (or anyone's) chaingrab, or Flaco's pillaring combos. All other combos in the game (for the most part) are escapable by simple DI.

The only crazy Marth combo that I can think of is shffl'd n-air -> shffl'd d-air -> shffl'd sweetspotted f-air -> short-hopped sweetspotted f-air -> double jumped non-sweetspotted f-air -> d-air. . .and even this is a pretty shaky combo that's reliant on character weight, falling speed, and %.

Stavros, the main thing that you want to learn is how to L-cancel. Perform an aerial and land while the attack animation is occuring, and there's lag. However, if you press the L trigger w/in 6 frames of landing, the lag will be cut by 1/2 (i.e. 14 frames of lag cut down to 7 if you L-cancel properly). This allows you to spend less time being vulnerable, opens up huge combo opportunities, and speeds up your game dramatically. Combine L-cancelling into "shffl'ing" (aka Short Hop Fast Fall L-cancel) and you move miles towards becoming a better player.

[TwilightSora]

I find wavedashing a bit tedious and not worth it in my opinion. L-cancelling is useful for me thought since I use Y-Link. Also, I believe he is speaking of Marth's "Dancing Blade" attack. ~_~

[文偉立]

BTW, when I meant by the combo technique was Marth's B+Left/Right attack. The other 'combo' is as described:

Maelstrom, it just works well on the people who are stupid enough to not press L or R (aka, n00bs). I just keep them low. Basically, it's just a juggle off the ground like a basketball and the floor dribbling constantly until the opponent is smart enough to actually use a dodge rather than attacking. I took plenty of time on this and just to figure out there was such a combo, just like that combo I found for Talim that was equally cheap in SCII (Horizontal, Horizontal, Forward + Kick, Kick, Kick, Kick, Kick = Ring out). I learned a lot of more advanced players can break out of it after my second hit and that just means I had to just rely on full power.

[konuk]

oooh i cant wait to beat the crap out of 50 some mere people MUHAHAHAHAAHAH MARTHS UNSTOPPABLE I will rule you all muhahaha Remeber my SCREEN NAME: SEPHRAI THE GREAT Muhahahahahahahahahahah

maybe we should post a combp list for SSMBM

i know the all ending attack for Marth hehe espically for tag with Marth and Roy

ok MaelSTorm..............theres a way to total whoop fox's tail i use link against him all the time hehe use spin attack on the ground the the the Boomrange to the ground and then try to grab him ( boomrange is used as adiversion in this case) then do down throw and spin attack then boomrange him and jump v A it works well if your a med-playerwell there Link in my case Counters Fox.............

[TwilightSora]

Marth is garbage and overly whored ^.^

*prepares for firing squad*

[文偉立]

Konuk = t3h br4gz0r

Marth has one of the simplest spikes in the game. One of the most capable and easily maneuvered techniques

[konuk]

well if you say so but waiy until Revo comes then tell me that in my face while were fightin Screen Name plz...............................................

[konuk]

well wait until Revo comes out then say that in my face if you beat me and T. Sora well we will see.....Screen Name plz!!