Auron Vs Cloud

soraking10 · 08/28/08, 08:19 AM

Alright this has been bothering me for a while who will win Auron or Cloud?

**Ziz** · 08/28/08, 08:38 AM

Auron hands down, does that answer your question.

Cloud sucks

Rufus Shinra · 08/28/08, 03:43 PM

Auron has a lot more experience, and possibly skills, in my opinion, so he'd win.

Ningacom · 08/28/08, 09:53 PM

ffffffffffffffffffff

Clone · 08/28/08, 09:59 PM

why is this thread made again?, i see bad things happening in the future.

namine000000 · 08/28/08, 10:02 PM

i would think cloud

heartless person · 08/29/08, 02:34 AM

i say that cloud would win

Ningacom · 08/29/08, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by namine000000

i would think cloud

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i say that cloud would win

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The Liberator · 08/31/08, 07:00 PM

First of all, Why the hell did you remake my thread?

Second of all, Auron would win. I don't give a rat's ass as to how powerful omnislash is, its pretty much the only thing that the people who argued for Cloud used as support in the old thread. I can gaurentee(sp?) that 97% of the people who voted cloud only said omnislash, instead of using actual logic. Which is also the only reason that Cloud was barely winning: There were too many people who were to Cloud biased to actually use logic to decide the answer, instead, they just said:Cloud has Omnislash, Auron is slow, Cloud wins. On the other hand, majority of the people who voted Auron actually used logic to decide who would win.

All you did by remaking my thread was allow Cloud fanboys to spam it up by constantly screaming OMG, CLOUD HAS OMNISLASH!!!! or CLOUD PWNED SEPHIROTH!!! at you. Congratualtions. If I could nega-rep you, I would.

Feel free to PM me when this thing gets spammed by Cloud Fanboys.

You've been warned. In fact, someone should close this before its to late.

**Pelafina** · 08/31/08, 07:12 PM

im gonna say cloud, because he has omnislash

and hes sooooooo cool

**.:Raz:.** · 08/31/08, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Liberator

First of all, Why did you remake my thread?
Second of all, Auron would win. I don't give a rat's ass as to how powerful omnislash is, its pretty much the only thing that the people who argued for Cloud used as support in the old thread. I can gaurentee(sp?) that 97% of the people who voted cloud only said omnislash, instead of using actual logic. Which is also the only reason that Cloud was barely winning: There were too many people who were to Cloud biased to actually use logic to decide the answer, instead, they just said:Cloud has Omnislash, Auron is slow, Cloud wins. On the other hand, majority of the people who voted Auron actually used logic to decide who would win.

All you did by remaking my thread was allow Cloud fanboys to spam it up by constantly screaming OMG, CLOUD HAS OMNISLASH!!!! or CLOUD PWNED SEPHIROTH!!! at you. Congratualtions. If I could nega-rep you, I would.

I'm pretty sure everyone can negarep everyone, now.

The Liberator · 08/31/08, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by .:Raz:.

I'm pretty sure everyone can negarep everyone, now.

Really? *Grins deviously*

On a side note: Ill pop up every now and then to anoy the hell out of you and to thrash the Omnislash spammers.

I would say good luck but then luck would abandon you... good luck.

Ventus · 09/02/08, 02:12 AM

Auron vs. Cloud 2: The attack of the n00bs D:
Since i don't want to get involved in some shitty and biased argument again, here it's a link to the old thread and a recap from all my posts in the old thread:

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Even after appearing in both Final Fantasy VII and Advent Children, Sephiroth's true strength is still unknown. It's stated in the official book "Reunion Files" the Sephiroth seen in the movie "ascended to a new level of existence" and is much stronger than before. But the book states that he never exerted himself in the final fight against Cloud, and because of that his true potential is still unknown.

Statements from Kitase and Nomura in the AC Director's Comentary of the Japanese DVD try to convey Sephiroth's power. Kitase said. "Sephiroth's existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him." Producer Kitase even decided that they couldn’t make any other character stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII.

It is known that the incarnations of Sephiroth seen in Final Fantasy VII and Advent Children are far more powerful than he was prior to the Nibelheim Incident. In the short, playable section of the flashback scene shortly before the Incident in which he supposedly perished, Sephiroth is shown to be level 50 and having 3,264 hp, much weaker than any of the members of AVALANCHE can become by the end of the game and still weaker than Cloud was by the end of Advent Children (even having lost much of his skill with a buster sword that he had at the end of the game) although this incarnation couldn't be damaged by any attack. Therefore, Advent Children Sephiroth was much stronger than he was the last time he fought with the Masamune.

There you go. In a real fight, going all out, Sephiroth would kill Cloud easily, there´s no one stronger than him in the FFVII world. So, it kind goes like this:
Sephiroth>>>>>Auron>Cloud
Tho, i still think that FFX Auron and AC Cloud would end up tied in a fight between them.

Biased Fanboys/girls and n00bs FTL

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Did you forget? Cloud did beat Sephiroth in Advent Children and he did it alone. So if Sephiroth is so much greater than Auron, then Cloud beating Sephiroth makes Cloud better than Auron.

So you're saying that you know more about the FFVII universe than their creators? !
let me repeat myself since i'm obviously not being clear:

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Even after appearing in both Final Fantasy VII and Advent Children, Sephiroth's true strength is still unknown. It's stated in the official book "Reunion Files" the Sephiroth seen in the movie "ascended to a new level of existence" and is much stronger than before. But the book states that he never exerted himself in the final fight against Cloud, and because of that his true potential is still unknown.

Statements from Kitase and Nomura in the AC Director's Comentary of the Japanese DVD try to convey Sephiroth's power. Kitase said. "Sephiroth's existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him." Producer Kitase even decided that they couldn’t make any other character stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII.

Oh, and here goes one of Xidon's epic posts:

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Anyone else noticed that most of the Cloud supporters have less then 500 posts and are mostly girls... hmm

I think I am gonna go with the 1k post people and say Auron.
Auron has the experience, the endurance (he is in great physical form and is undead lol), the skill and the power to easily defeat Cloud.

Yes Cloud has the agility, but lets face it he doesn't have any real swordsman skill, he relies too much on the ability the Jenova cells gave him and Auron could easily predict his every move, so his speed wouldn't mean anything.
Also Cloud couldn't take a serious blow from Auron, no matter how fast he is or how high he can jump, he is still easily killed as any normal human, he can't take much damage (if any of you try denying this, I am just gonna say that your idiotic fanboys and remind you how easily Zack died), while Auron on the other hand could take a lot of damage from Cloud due to the fact that he is undead. Even if we take Auron as a fiend from FFX and say that he can be killed like a fiend, they can take literally tons of damage before they go bye-bye.

So yeah Auron would win and if you still want to claim that Cloud would win, please do us all a big favor and give some proper arguments and no "OMFG CLOUD IS SO AWESUM, HE WOULD OMNISLAHE DAT AURON AND HE WOULD BE LIKE TOTALY DED!!!!!!!!1!!!".

Thxbai

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One of Lezard's memorable speeches:

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Ok, about Sephiroth, nothing in FF7 is superior to Sephiroth from AC. It was confirmed by the creators of the games, believe it or not. Nothing means that Cloud, Omega, Genesis etc aren't equal or superior to Sephiroth like he is in AC.
Why did Cloud defeat him? Because Sephiroth wants to make him suffer, and so doesn't use his power and underestimate him.

I won't say more on it, since this is getting pretty off topic.

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The book doesnt say anything about him never exerting himself. It says that Sephiroth is way stronger than Kadaj, and Cloud was outmatched in the fight and thats why he was showing signs of fatigue. But obviously Cloud defeated Sephiroth head on this time (for people who dont count the first time he defeated Sephiroth, because the first attack was from behind). Sephiroth was set on getting revenge against Cloud, and if he really wasnt exerting himself then he would have done so at the end just before his death, and Omnislash wouldnt have killed him.

I have the damn book. who do you think that wrote it? wasn't it Nomura and Kitase? they said, that there's nothing above Sephiroth, nothing stronger than him, yeah, yeah, all the Cloud Omnislash bullshit and all that, but, face it, Cloud isn't strong as Sephiroth, Sephy could have killed him if he wanted to. It's not like 'LOL WUT, I R USIN OMNISLASH IR BEATIN DA CRAP OUT OF YA'. So now, if you insist on being such a fanboy, try to read more of what the masterminds behind FF7 say. BTW, Cloud did not kill Sephiroth's body but Kadaj's, it's just that by absorving the Jenova cells, Sephiroth's will took over Kadaj and changed his appearence, i believe.

lemme repeat myself again -.-"

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Statements from Kitase and Nomura in the AC Director's Comentary of the Japanese DVD try to convey Sephiroth's power. Kitase said. "Sephiroth's existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him." Producer Kitase even decided that they couldn’t make any other character stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII.

kthxbai ;D

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Originally Posted by Xidon View Post
Anyone else noticed that most of the Cloud supporters have less then 500 posts and are mostly girls... hmm

I think I am gonna go with the 1k post people and say Auron

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lawl, i have less than 1k posts :0

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Originally Posted by Koji View Post
I need proof first. I cannot accept the word of a fanboy just like that. You want to prove your Auron worthy then provide some kind of evidence please. I dont mean to be rude, I'd just like to see something solid. You also tend to act like what Nomura and Kitase might have said is always correct.

Proof? O.o want me to take a pic of the damn book? again...more proof of Auron being worthy? Haven't we all given enough evidence? especially Lezard, Xidon and Reckless Chaos. Might have said? Damn, i guess Kitase and Nomura messed up, so.. i think this is how it goes the official/original translation...' HAI GAIZ, GUEZZ WUT? CLOUD ISH STRONGER DAN SEPHIROTH =D DEREZ NUTHIN STRONGAH, NUTHIN ABOVE HIM, OF SHESH, EXCEPT FO TIFA... NO WAI, DADS BARRET xD'

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Shat, guise, noones reading my post.
Shame, Shame.

poor zoid =( most of these people go under the tl;dr politic

[SPOILER]tl;dr xP[/spoiler]

soraking10 · 09/02/08, 01:42 PM

Well as the old thread showed cloud got the majority of the votes last time, but now Auron got the majority this time around.

**Chaotic Misery** · 09/02/08, 09:36 PM

What's the point of voting when comes to debates? Our debates win over those pathetic noobs attempts at what the think is debating.

I'll put it this way for the noobs. Cloud sux and Auron rules.

View Poll Results: Who will win
Auron	12	66.67%
Cloud Strife	6	33.33%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

08/28/08, 08:19 AM	#1
soraking10 Twilight Knight Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In Mclovin Town Age: 17 Posts: 760 Rep Power: 3	Auron Vs Cloud Alright this has been bothering me for a while who will win Auron or Cloud?

08/28/08, 08:38 AM	#2
Ziz Formerly known as Krateroi Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Coruscant Age: 16 Posts: 3,556 Rep Power: 7	Re: Auron Vs Cloud Auron hands down, does that answer your question. Cloud sucks

08/28/08, 03:43 PM	#3
Rufus Shinra Tyranical President Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shinra Building Age: 19 Posts: 2,169 Rep Power: 4	Re: Auron Vs Cloud Auron has a lot more experience, and possibly skills, in my opinion, so he'd win.

08/28/08, 09:53 PM	#4
Ningacom In Germany, Cats Say "Miau" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 4 2 4 2 5 6 4 Age: 16 Posts: 2,266 Rep Power: 6	Re: Auron Vs Cloud ffffffffffffffffffff

08/28/08, 09:59 PM	#5
Clone Organization Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: good old england Age: 20 Posts: 445 Rep Power: 3	Re: Auron Vs Cloud why is this thread made again?, i see bad things happening in the future.

08/28/08, 10:02 PM	#6
namine000000 Heartless Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 14 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: Auron Vs Cloud i would think cloud

08/29/08, 02:34 AM	#7
heartless person Organization Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: about to leave this world Posts: 346 Rep Power: 2	Re: Auron Vs Cloud i say that cloud would win

08/31/08, 07:00 PM	#9
The Liberator Organization Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Soldier Side Age: 13 Posts: 462 Rep Power: 1	Re: Auron Vs Cloud First of all, Why the hell did you remake my thread? Second of all, Auron would win. I don't give a rat's ass as to how powerful omnislash is, its pretty much the only thing that the people who argued for Cloud used as support in the old thread. I can gaurentee(sp?) that 97% of the people who voted cloud only said omnislash, instead of using actual logic. Which is also the only reason that Cloud was barely winning: There were too many people who were to Cloud biased to actually use logic to decide the answer, instead, they just said:Cloud has Omnislash, Auron is slow, Cloud wins. On the other hand, majority of the people who voted Auron actually used logic to decide who would win. All you did by remaking my thread was allow Cloud fanboys to spam it up by constantly screaming OMG, CLOUD HAS OMNISLASH!!!! or CLOUD PWNED SEPHIROTH!!! at you. Congratualtions. If I could nega-rep you, I would. Feel free to PM me when this thing gets spammed by Cloud Fanboys. You've been warned. In fact, someone should close this before its to late. Last edited by The Liberator; 08/31/08 at 07:19 PM.

08/31/08, 07:12 PM	#10
Pelafina we can't stop here Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,095 Rep Power: 8	Re: Auron Vs Cloud im gonna say cloud, because he has omnislash and hes sooooooo cool

09/02/08, 01:42 PM	#14
soraking10 Twilight Knight Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In Mclovin Town Age: 17 Posts: 760 Rep Power: 3	Re: Auron Vs Cloud Well as the old thread showed cloud got the majority of the votes last time, but now Auron got the majority this time around.

09/02/08, 09:36 PM	#15
Chaotic Misery Players adapt not survive Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a world I created for my friends. Wanna join? Age: 18 Posts: 8,604 Rep Power: 15	Re: Auron Vs Cloud What's the point of voting when comes to debates? Our debates win over those pathetic noobs attempts at what the think is debating. I'll put it this way for the noobs. Cloud sux and Auron rules.

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