Cloud Vs. Zack.

[Koji]

Originally Posted by Lee Akira

you should play crisis core to see a whole other side to zack,you might change your mind.

I played Crisis Core but I still like Cloud better. He's the coolest character I know.

Originally Posted by Morningstar

This is the single most retarded factor I have ever heard.

Why? Looks do add to a character and Cloud looks cooler than Zack.

I like Cloud's story, VA, looks, personality, weapon, limits, and style. I like Zack's loyalty only.

[Neo Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Chocobo Dyl

Zack had better skills than Cloud however Cloud has trained since Zack Died so on that one 0-0
They both have the same limit breaks so................................................ ..............0-0
Cloud has "Issues" and so would probably have a dream in mid battle and Zack will kill him so 1-0
I made a little chart
One point though they both use the same sword so that would give one of them an advantage depends whos got the sword

You're a moron, plz don't speak of what you don't understand. Play FF7 Moar. Kthxbye.

Originally Posted by Lee Akira

well cloud copy zack's style so zack would whoop him

Cloud has Zack's style thanks to JENOVA. Therefore it's not a copy, it's a direct clone. Not only that, but Cloud is stronger than you give him credit for, and I'm not talking DBZ style power levels.

Originally Posted by Lee Akira

dude have you seen the last order or Play Crisis core,he's a wuzz,and zack is all cool,powerfull and lets not forget a better friend that cloud could ever been,he hardly talk about zack in FFVII,thanks cloud I gave my life for you...for nothing wuzz

You're a moron if you think that Cloud is a wuss. Crisiz Corz is s0000 coool. Zack is so all powerful he got gunned the hell down by a bunch of grunts. Powerful guy, amirite?

Yeah, he may be cool, but coolness is not a factor in a character's dignity and superiority over another character.

Zack is a better friend because he sacrificed himself for Cloud. Cloud is a bad friend because he's an emo sit at home do-nothing, amirite? Cloud's plenty a good friend, since others gather around him and support him.

He hardly talks about Zack in FF7 because that was the twist you dipshit .-. Play FF7, then come back once you've received your learnings.

[Reckless Chaos]

First off Zack wasn't just gunned down and killed so simply. He took a bullet for Cloud to save him then he faced a squadron of machine gun men. He took them and was severely wounded from all that and that's when a second squandron showed up. He did all he could to face them and was killed.

He cloned Zack's style. Yeah that sounds I whole lot better then copy.

[Neo Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Reckless Chaos

First off Zack wasn't just gunned down and killed so simply. He took a bullet for Cloud to save him then he faced a squadron of machine gun men. He took them and was severely wounded from all that and that's when a second squandron showed up. He did all he could to face them and was killed.

He cloned Zack's style. Yeah that sounds I whole lot better then copy.

I haven't had the pleasure of playing Crisis Core as of yet, so I simply go by old school shitty ass graphic Final Fantasy VII, which paints a much different picture I'm sure than Crisis Core does. Of course Zack wouldn't go down without a fight, but him sacrificing himself for Cloud only speaks of his strengths, not Cloud's weaknesses. You don't think if the situation was reversed that Cloud wouldn't have leapt in and taken a bullet for Zack? Please.

I say Clone because he didn't set out to copy Zack's style. See, it's called cloning because that's what Jenova did to Cloud when he was struggling to regain his sanity and identity. It took Zack's. That's why he can use all of Zack's abilities... again, this is all coming from my ever so limited knowledge of Final Fantasy VII. Maybe Crisis Core will change things for me, who knows.

[Patius]

i think zack is better....he kind of inspired cloud, also he gave cloud his sword. without zack, cloud doesent have a buster sword

[Reckless Chaos]

Yeah now that I think about it. Without Zack's death, Cloud loses his fighting style. Being that he's not a swordsman until Zack dies, Cloud has no chance. Zack wins, Cloud dies.

[Koji]

^That's incorrect. Cloud had amazing swordsman skills when he was just 14. His extremely impressive skills probably explains why he was able to defeat Sephiroth (unlike Zack), and wield the advanced set of weapons, First Tsurugi. So no, Zack's death had nothing to do with Cloud's fighting style.

[Lezard Valeth]

I'd like to say that Zack nevertheless modified Cloud's fight style. A sample is how they wield their swords or the victory moves.
But I agree that Cloud always had amazing Swordsman skill. In Before Crisis, a Turk is surprised by how Cloud fought, it's to say amazingly.
Considering that even the Turk admitted that Cloud was strong, I don't understand why Cloud wasn't even allowed to be at least a SOLDIER 3st Class, especially considering that some 3rd Class looked rather weak.

[Patius]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

I don't understand why Cloud wasn't even allowed to be at least a SOLDIER 3st Class, especially considering that some 3rd Class looked rather weak.

like that one 3rd class that had u do his missions for him

[dexter906]

it would probably be a tie because Cloud has Zacks style but Cloud has Omni-Slash and Zack only has Octaslash but Zack has alot of different limit breaks

[Patius]

without zack, who would have saved cloud?

[Tragic Fall]

Although Cloud may be good looking.........(note the sarcasm)...........I think that Zack and him would be pretty even matched.

[bubbles]

zack would so kill cloud..

[Patius]

Originally Posted by Tragic Fall

Although Cloud may be good looking.........(note the sarcasm)...........I think that Zack and him would be pretty even matched.

i agree that they are evenly matched, but there has to be a winner

[Tragic Fall]

Well........Cloud has seven swords............Zack has one.........Cloud can use those seven swords at the same time..........Zack still only has one................