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November 17th, 2009, 05:48 PM
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#46 | | Story of the Year
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Registered: Dec 2005 Location: Wait What? Age: 20 Posts: 3,444 | Re: I'm gonna be Frank here Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden Who's writing the story? The artists?
Also, at what point in Frank's drawing process is the 'stitching' included? | I came up with the original idea behind it and everyone who I trust enough to tell the story too general wants in to help write it.
Thus far it's myself, quiteMAD, Zion and another friend of mine from class. A couple other people like Flower who I've told about the story kick in ideas and shizz every once and a while but it's primarily just me and quiteMAD who've done most of the story thus far.
The stitching comes into play while we're drawing the body parts, which is why some parts are left up a little more in some areas what with the stitching making certain areas boldge a little bit more.
Then again this is just one of those rough sketches to see how we want him to look so later on we'll probably go back and do some detail profile pictures, as well as fully body shots of the rest of the cast.
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November 18th, 2009, 12:28 AM
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#47 | | The Truth
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Registered: Jan 2006 Location: In your head. Posts: 1,625 | Re: I'm gonna be Frank here When Proper said "fairy tales" he was misspoken. It's really just classic english literature in general. Bram Stroker's Dracula, The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, The Portrait of Dorian Gray, Sherlock Holmes, Jack the Ripper(though he's not really a literary character, he's used so often he may as well be) etc., and I'm working on convincing Proper into doing a segment based on Treasure Island and The Tragical History of Doctor Faust(though that's German).
We've also got cameos of characters from other stories like the Artful Dodger, from Oliver Twist, and ...a less than flattering version of Peter Pan.
And I guess it's also worth mentioning my design for Death is based on two poems: The Masque of the Red Death, and The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner(one of my personal favorite depictions of Death).
Also I'm quite sure Frank's look will be constantly changing throughout the story. He might get some clothes. He might get a hair cut, most likely at Dorian's whim, who knows. In the book, he was constantly growing smarter and adapting to his surroundings. So I expect Frank will too. | |
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November 18th, 2009, 02:04 AM
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#48 | | Sense is Key, Knowledge is Power
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Originally Posted by quiteMAD When Proper said "fairy tales" he was misspoken. It's really just classic english literature in general. Bram Stroker's Dracula, The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, The Portrait of Dorian Gray, Sherlock Holmes, Jack the Ripper(though he's not really a literary character, he's used so often he may as well be) etc., and I'm working on convincing Proper into doing a segment based on Treasure Island and The Tragical History of Doctor Faust(though that's German).
We've also got cameos of characters from other stories like the Artful Dodger, from Oliver Twist, and ...a less than flattering version of Peter Pan.
And I guess it's also worth mentioning my design for Death is based on two poems: The Masque of the Red Death, and The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner(one of my personal favorite depictions of Death).
Also I'm quite sure Frank's look will be constantly changing throughout the story. He might get some clothes. He might get a hair cut, most likely at Dorian's whim, who knows. In the book, he was constantly growing smarter and adapting to his surroundings. So I expect Frank will too. | that's a great picture of Frank by the way
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November 19th, 2009, 05:37 AM
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#49 | | Enigmatic Soldier
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Originally Posted by ╬ProperArtist╬ I came up with the original idea behind it and everyone who I trust enough to tell the story too general wants in to help write it.
Thus far it's myself, quiteMAD, Zion and another friend of mine from class. A couple other people like Flower who I've told about the story kick in ideas and shizz every once and a while but it's primarily just me and quiteMAD who've done most of the story thus far. | It seems like a project artists and writers would easily be enticed into. But I have a further question on the writing, drawn from an earlier post: Quote: |
The whole idea behind the series is taking back all the old fairytales that you grew up with as a child and retelling them the way they were meant to be told. Dark and Gritty in their original form (because everyone knows those stories were no where near child friendly when they first were told).
| Is this something that is possible to do in the setting you're creating--a setting entirely removed from the worlds these literary figures were introduced in? Frankenstein and his monster were beset by the horrors of a world that was too normal, that could not tolerate an existence such as theirs; not a world already peopled by the likes of Mr. Hyde and that Mad Rabbit. Can you recreate that isolation in this potentially overfull world? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Zion The idea of the story being presented by PA kind of undermines the original character of Frankenstein, but i don't think the idea was to make an exact copy of him with what we could interpret from Shelley's depiction of him/it. | This might be the answer to my question above, but what do you mean by 'undermines'? Quote: |
Originally Posted by ╬ProperArtist╬ The stitching comes into play while we're drawing the body parts, which is why some parts are left up a little more in some areas what with the stitching making certain areas boldge a little bit more.
Then again this is just one of those rough sketches to see how we want him to look so later on we'll probably go back and do some detail profile pictures, as well as fully body shots of the rest of the cast. | I only ask because it still seems superficial, particularly laid out against Frankenstein's incredibly fit form. The well-defined muscles are all put together ideally, at least by the drawing style's conventions, in spite of (rather than due to) the stitching that runs without apparent pattern or function back and forth across them.
I hope you'll forgive what seems like incessent criticism for a project I have yet to see--it is only a sincere interest that prompts me so.
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November 19th, 2009, 07:05 PM
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#50 | | Story of the Year
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Registered: Dec 2005 Location: Wait What? Age: 20 Posts: 3,444 | Re: I'm gonna be Frank here Honestly the way we're changing the concepts of the characters to fit into the story is going to be slightly altered from their original origins.
Not a lot but just enough so they make sense in the story; just trust me when I say they'll all fit together.
Honestly I can't really say anything about the story and as far as Frank's body is concerned, if the doctor's original concept of the monster was to create a perfect being and be considered a god himself it makes sense for Frank to a least be fit. It's not like he himself can work out. He's just been put together that way.
Obviously the more detailed pictures will be a little less proportionate but for now like I said it's just a concept.
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November 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM
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#51 | | The Truth
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Registered: Jan 2006 Location: In your head. Posts: 1,625 | Re: I'm gonna be Frank here Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden Is this something that is possible to do in the setting you're creating--a setting entirely removed from the worlds these literary figures were introduced in? Frankenstein and his monster were beset by the horrors of a world that was too normal, that could not tolerate an existence such as theirs; not a world already peopled by the likes of Mr. Hyde and that Mad Rabbit. Can you recreate that isolation in this potentially overfull world? | Honestly, he IS brought into a normal world. He's the first freak this world will see, even. You'll notice, when we actually create this story, he's more or less the catalyst for every other freak in the story. With, I guess, the exception of Jack the Ripper and Peter Pan, who were both already freaks. Albeit well hidden freaks. Quote: |
I only ask because it still seems superficial, particularly laid out against Frankenstein's incredibly fit form. The well-defined muscles are all put together ideally, at least by the drawing style's conventions, in spite of (rather than due to) the stitching that runs without apparent pattern or function back and forth across them.
| Without spoiling things, I can't really go into detail. So I'll just say the man who created Frank is a bit of a perfectionist. And it's not Frankenstein. That'd be way too obvious. Half the story is Frank trying to figure out who made him, and if the reader knew then it would be as fun to read. And of course, as Proper mentioned, he is supposed to be like a god amongst men. The original book referred to him as a modern day Prometheus.
Also he's gonna be beating the shit out of people, and ugly just doesn't sell. So he's fit. | |
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