lmao >: I need halp

[Dogenzaka]

I'm doing a painting for a friend, I'm hoping it's my best yet.
Problem is, I want to get it to be an almost top-down perspective, yet where you can still see their faces, as if it was top-down at an angle, and I really need help trying to draw at that angle. I think I have my perspective and proportions wrong. Can anyone reference me to some pics of over-head hugging or show me how to improve the perspective? :v

This is what I gots so far:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3...aintingck5.jpg

I like the head angles so far, (Except for Chrono's head, still working on that) I just want to make the rest of their bodies look natural from that perspective.....Not sure if I did it right or not.

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oh man I hate that pose. plus their faces make me lol. but that pose is so static and boring.

here, something I just threw together. Might have some slight proportion problems, but whatever
http://xs128.xs.to/xs128/08235/youcould929.png

Much more dynamic, I think. when working with perspective you always want to get your field down before you do anything else. That'd be what those black lines are in mine, they show where the action tapers in at.

Hope that helps

[Dogenzaka]

Hmm, I think I might try that pose, or at least a variation of it. The person who requested it really liked a hugging/protection pose....so I need to think of a way to try and get that but to make it fit...overhead perspective really screws me up :/

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Perspective is impossible if you don't know anatomy, so figuring that our might help you

[Dogenzaka]

The thing is I'm comfortable with anatomy at a straight on angle....but from overhead it's near impossible for me...so I wanted to see if there were any pics or tips or references I could use to help draw at that angle or something?

[JUSTICE]

From overhead... do mean like a bird's eye view, or less direct?

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Originally Posted by Dogenzaka

The thing is I'm comfortable with anatomy at a straight on angle....but from overhead it's near impossible for me...so I wanted to see if there were any pics or tips or references I could use to help draw at that angle or something?

Well about the pose, don't feel pressured into doing an overhead if you 1)don't feel comfortable doing it or 2)don't think it's necessary. The angle at which you make your drawings also depends on what you want to express. Nevertheless, I've taken it upon myself to inform with some info on perspective:

To help you start off doing overhead perspective it's good to create a base guide made out of blocks. First start to draw a rectangle in the perspective you want - in that block, you will structure out your character.

Eeeh, lemme see if there are any sites to further this explaination, I was never one for explainations..
How to Draw People in Perspective | ExpertVillage Videos
Well you can further the google search if you wish (that's just what I did anyway, not like I had any links off my head) but at least in this link there are videos and you can see how it's done - it should give you a good idea. He talks a bit about perspective too but eeeh, it's kinda shitty imo.

Hope that helps.

[snowdog]

Hm, try asking someone to imitate the pose you're after, then photograph them from the angle you want to draw yourself. Stand on a chair or something. Then draw it. Not necessarily into the piece right away, just sketch out the figure in the photograph a couple of times until you're comfortable with how the body looks from that angle. Then try putting your characters in that pose.

Or use the triangle method. Y'know, draw an upside-down triangle, then draw the person within it. Obviously not keeping to the sides at all times, but the general 'shrinking down' shape makes it a little easier to visualise things.

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[Dogenzaka]

From overhead... do mean like a bird's eye view, or less direct?

Bird's eye view from a diagonal angle facing the viewer..kind of.

Hm, try asking someone to imitate the pose you're after, then photograph them from the angle you want to draw yourself. Stand on a chair or something. Then draw it. Not necessarily into the piece right away, just sketch out the figure in the photograph a couple of times until you're comfortable with how the body looks from that angle. Then try putting your characters in that pose.

I have no one to photograph >:

Or use the triangle method. Y'know, draw an upside-down triangle, then draw the person within it. Obviously not keeping to the sides at all times, but the general 'shrinking down' shape makes it a little easier to visualise things.

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This might work...I think I'll try that.
My problem is more on how to draw the body parts shrinking on top of each other as they go down...I tried googling overhead perspectives and the results were kind of vague ._.

Thanks for the help so far, guys <3

THIS is the angle I'm trying to explain to you guys, I just have no idea how to draw their heads to adapt to that perspective...and their body parts to shrink down in that aspect.


Another good example is of Oathy's painting of Ed....this is kind of the perspective I'm talking about, as shown in my doodle above ._.:

[JUSTICE]

Try more of a rectangular prism rather than a triangle. Going down like a triangle, just that it isn't so simple. If it were a greater distance, than a vanishing point would be appropriate... but at this angle well, I might have to try it out for myself too.