Crisis Core : Final Fantasy VII

[Krateroi]

Originally Posted by final keyblade

Male Character: Zack
Female Character: Cissnei
Places: Shinra building
Limits: Genesis
Summons: Behamut
Scenes: Sephiroth, Genesis, and Angeal
Funny moments: When Yuffie says she found nasty pictures in the treasure chest.
Songs: crisis core theme song
Lines: "I am perfect." "A perfect....monster"
Materia: Firaga

i just got to the part where u have to fight angeal when he absorbs those monsters. i keep losing

p.s. i think absorbs is the word i meant

Male Character: Genesis
Female character: Cissnei
Places: Banora
Summons: Bahamut
Scenes: When Zack met the Turks, when Zack became a 1st, when Cloud and Sephiroth fought at Nibelheim.
Songs: Sucessor, Truth Behind the Project, ff7 Battle theme, SOLDIER theme'
Lines: "Infinite in mystery is the gift of the goddess
We seek it thus, and take it to the sky"
Materia: Firaga

[Mysterious]

Originally Posted by AntiSora92

Materia: Firaga

Originally Posted by final keyblade

Materia: Firaga

clearly you two don't know what the materia Tri-Fire is

[Lezard Valeth]

About "the gift of the goddess" : like Genesis said, there are various interpretation. But for him, the gift is his pride as a SOLDIER, he realizes it after fighting Zack.
Source : Compilation Network - Compilation of Final Fantasy VII Ultimania

[Beautiful Chaos]

I don't belive it! I was out for like 5 minutes yesterday, and i walked in the house and what do i find? a note saying that the postman had been and couldn't get a signature for the package. So now i have to wait til monday! xD

[Jet]

]Ouch. That sucks, Eliwood.

Male Character: Zack

Female character: Cissnei

Places: Niebelheim Mako Reactor

Summons: Odin( YAY for cheap one-hit kills =D )

Limit: OctaSlash, Lucky Stars


Scenes:
When Cloud gets stabbed in the chest ( Die Emo Cloud ;D )
Zack dies ( Saddest scene of the game )
Genesis vs Sephy vs Angeal

Songs: SOLDIER Theme, Why, One Wing Angel

Lines:
"Embrace your dreams"

[Lezard Valeth]

Male Character: Genesis
Female Character: Aerith
Places: Midgar
Limits: Sephiroth's limit
Summons: Odin
Scenes: The fight Sephiroth/Genesis/Angeal, before Zack meets Cissney when he escaped from Nibeleheim
Funny moments: When I have read the mails of Sephiroth Fanclub
Songs: Dream and Pride
Lines: Angeal : "Sephiroth, did you lose weight?"
Materia: Dark Thundaga

[Koji]

Originally Posted by Mysterious

clearly you two don't know what the materia Tri-Fire is

Is it a useful materia? I managed to get 2 of them from missions, but I havent used it because I'd have to level it from the start where as my Hell Firaga is already levelled.

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

About "the gift of the goddess" : like Genesis said, there are various interpretation. But for him, the gift is his pride as a SOLDIER, he realizes it after fighting Zack.
Source : Compilation Network - Compilation of Final Fantasy VII Ultimania

I see. I also read the link you posted, and it pointed that the gift of the goddess, referred to in Loveless, might be lifestream. It says:

it is impossible for a person to become ageless, it is proposed that theory can be applied to the Planet, and in this case the Gift of the Goddess becomes "Nothing is wasted in destruction" or "All will be healed in time".

However the first part brought Vincent Valentine into my mind. By "nothing is wasted in destruction" I think it refers to the life force returning to the lifestream and creating a new person. "All will be healed in time" sounds like when the planet is injured, and a person dies, the planet can use that person's life force that has joined the lifestream to heal itself. So considering that its directed to the planet, the gift of the goddess should be the lifestream, right?

[zephyr flutist]

Originally Posted by Mysterious

clearly you two don't know what the materia Tri-Fire is

hmm... tri-fire is stronger but it doesn't look like firaga. i think firaga looks cooler because you see three meteors but tri-fire, you just see three fires. which is pretty weird...

my favorite materia would be hell thundaga and quake. umm... their levels and stats are uhh...

hell thundaga master mag+ 72
quake master mag+ 45

[Mysterious]

Originally Posted by Koji

Is it a useful materia? I managed to get 2 of them from missions, but I havent used it because I'd have to level it from the start where as my Hell Firaga is already levelled.

you're humiliating the materia man
it's as strong as firaga but faster... A LOT faster

Originally Posted by monkey flute

hmm... tri-fire is stronger but it doesn't look like firaga. i think firaga looks cooler because you see three meteors but tri-fire, you just see three fires. which is pretty weird...

dude, you don't use a materia because it's cooler
you use it because it's stronger

[Patius]

i've never seen tri-fire...maybe i'm not that far in the game yet

[Lezard Valeth]

Originally Posted by Koji

I see. I also read the link you posted, and it pointed that the gift of the goddess, referred to in Loveless, might be lifestream. It says:

However the first part brought Vincent Valentine into my mind. By "nothing is wasted in destruction" I think it refers to the life force returning to the lifestream and creating a new person. "All will be healed in time" sounds like when the planet is injured, and a person dies, the planet can use that person's life force that has joined the lifestream to heal itself. So considering that its directed to the planet, the gift of the goddess should be the lifestream, right?

Well, indeed, Genesis himself thought that the lifestream was the gift few before thinking his pride as Soldier is. As for if it really, I don't think we can know, they don't want to say it directly. I am confident that Loveless and Minerva will have a role in the sequel to DoC. The true nature of the gift could very well be the Lifestream, or maybe something no one, not even Genesis, thought about.


Being the lifestream is still interesting, considering that in the compilation, only three person used as "personal" power huge quantities of Lifestream : Genesis, when he became Genesis Avatar (which is, since Genesis = Sephiroth in terms of power, his Safer Sephiroth or Bizzaro Sephiroth form, though weaker), Sephiroth in FFVII and AC, and Weiss when he was used by Omega. Three SOLDIER : it strongly makes me think of the three friend. One is Prisoner (Weiss used by Omega), One becomes the Hero (Genesis in his dream, and One wanders the land (Sephiroth searching the Promised Land).
So, if the Lifestream is the gift, it means, in my opinion, that Sephiroth returns after DoC. I don't know how, but if well done, I'd enjoy it.

As for Vincent, actually he is part of Loveless. Every character is part of it, following the interpretation. Even Cid in the original game give his own interpretation of Loveless.

Originally Posted by Loveless

As the war sends the world hurtling towards destruction
The prisoner departs with his newfound love
And embarks on a new journey

This, for sample, make me think to Cloud and Tifa leaving alone to fight Sephiroth at FFVII's end. I think Loveless is like a prophecy of FFVII's events.

[zephyr flutist]

Originally Posted by Mysterious

dude, you don't use a materia because it's cooler
you use it because it's stronger

ehh... okay. i thought it was our favorite materia regardless if it's stronger. but i don't use firaga. i use hell thundaga (rather than tri-thundaga) and quake instead.

[Kawaiikousuke]

Male Character: Zack
Female Character: Tifa, it's always Tifa
Places: Costa Del Sol
Limit Break: The Tonberry one
Summons: Odin
Scenes: Costa Del Sol mostly and every other scene with Zack but without Genesis and Sephiroth.
Funny moments: can't decide.
Songs: Er the beginning one.
Lines: Everything Zack says.
Materia: Ultima

[Koji]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

One is Prisoner (Weiss used by Omega), One becomes the Hero (Genesis in his dream, and One wanders the land (Sephiroth searching the Promised Land).
So, if the Lifestream is the gift, it means, in my opinion, that Sephiroth returns after DoC. I don't know how, but if well done, I'd enjoy it.

It would be nice to have the real Sephiroth back. He must still be in the lifestream. And if he resurrected himself once before then nothing is stopping him from doing it again. He is the son of Jenova after all. Perhaps in the sequel to DC, they will find a way to purify the lifestream and completely rid of Sephiroth, and finally free Cloud as well.

[Patius]

i just beat angeal when he absorbs those monsters and now i'm just doing missions