The FF13 "Which Platform" Thread

[monkeybutt]

Alright, I'm tired of every ff13 newspiece turning into an argument about which systems it will come to. Seriously, that's not going to happen anymore, so here's a thread just for it. =D I'll start.

The Pach speaks. This time, he's weighing in on whether Final Fantasy (the series proper, not one of the 11854 spin-offs) will go multiplatorm or not. Mike?

The series has always been single console and given the Xbox 360 sell through in Japan, it would be hard to put the next Final Fantasy instalment on the 360 only.
Square Enix faces a dilemma: put the next game on the 360 only and alienate Japanese fans, depart with tradition and make it multi-platform, or go with PS3 as an exclusive and deal with the backlash from the west.
I view Square Enix as a tradition-bound company, and expect the last alternative to be chosen.

The Pach has spoken. So, dear readers! Do you agree with Pachter? Or disagree? Me, I'm siding with him on this one. Square Enix and tradition go together like milk and soft, yummy cookies.

[SuperEclipse]

They done broke tradition With. FFXI((Sorry it counts is a FF number title.)), FFVII, FFVIII for PC and PS1. Also FFI-VI went to PS1, GBA, etc.

So, now it has been proved wrong, they confirmed that FF13 could come to 360 anything, and the way PS3 sells in Japan, it is a given now

News - Squenix clarifies FF 360 position // Xbox 360 /// Eurogamer

Square Enix has clarified that recent comments made by Shinji Hashimoto regarding Final Fantasy on Xbox 360 were referring to the company's current plans, GamesIndustry.biz reports.

Japan's Nikkei BP quoted the executive producer as saying, "As for Final Fantasy on the Xbox 360, it's currently a completely blank page." Some reports interpreted this to mean that the series will never again appear on Microsoft's next-gen console.

However, a spokesperson for Square Enix told GamesIndustry.biz, "Hashimoto-san was talking about the current situation" - which would suggest his comments shouldn't be interpreted as forward-looking.

[monkeybutt]

PC, GBA, and PS1 are Japanese. ^_~; SE is very Japanesy. I can't argue for the 360 one though.

[Avris-the-Raxsiv]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

They done broke tradition With. FFXI((Sorry it counts is a FF number title.)), FFVII, FFVIII for PC and PS1. Also FFI-VI went to PS1, GBA, etc.

So, now it has been proved wrong, they confirmed that FF13 could come to 360 anything, and the way PS3 sells in Japan, it is a given now

News - Squenix clarifies FF 360 position // Xbox 360 /// Eurogamer

Square Enix has clarified that recent comments made by Shinji Hashimoto regarding Final Fantasy on Xbox 360 were referring to the company's current plans, GamesIndustry.biz reports.

Japan's Nikkei BP quoted the executive producer as saying, "As for Final Fantasy on the Xbox 360, it's currently a completely blank page." Some reports interpreted this to mean that the series will never again appear on Microsoft's next-gen console.

However, a spokesperson for Square Enix told GamesIndustry.biz, "Hashimoto-san was talking about the current situation" - which would suggest his comments shouldn't be interpreted as forward-looking.

Ah, well the plans of your 'FFXIII could come to 360 anything' are proven wrong now.
The Production to complete the FFXIII series will last a paling of 10 years - as follows:

'Square-Enix executive Shinji Hashimoto has been talking with Japanese site Nikkei BP about the platforms for future Final Fantasy games. He's told the site that they have Final Fantasy XIII for the PS3, Crystal Chronicles for the Wii but there isn't any Final Fantasy titles planned for release on the Xbox 360.

This means that any rumor of FFXIII being ported to the Xbox 360 is completly unfounded and that no other unanounced titles in the Fabula Nova Compilation are being developed for the 360 so far. However the compilation is supposed to last 10 years so the performance of The Last Remnant could change their minds but FFXIII is staying exclusive.'

Also it is officially confirmed that the 'LAST REMNANT' is multi-platform for both PS3 and the Xbox 360.

[The Conquerer]

I mean Square Enix has not hinted torwards a 360 release, if anything Square Enix should release another exclusive for the 360 instead of porting one of the PS3's most anticipate titles. I mean if this is going to be one of the games to define the PS3 hardware, gamplay, and story wise, then I don't believe Square Enix would port it, I mean they do have some dignity. FF13 is not the type of game to be ported, or made multi-platformed.

Off topic: Don't 360 fans feel a little bad about praying for a PS3 exclusive to arrive on their home console? I mean I don't hope for 360 exclusives to be ported, I mean that is what makes the consoles different and attractive in different ways. I mean I get happy when something becomes more multi-platformed diverse, like Oblivion, but I've seen some bad things for Fear, so I'm definately not getting my hopes up for ported games, unless they were made to be multi-platformed. But games like FF13 are home grown, why wish for it to be ported?

[SuperEclipse]

PC, GBA, and PS1 are Japanese. ^_~; SE is very Japanesy. I can't argue for the 360 one though.

It runs on Windows SO yea.

Originally Posted by The Conquerer

Off topic: Don't 360 fans feel a little bad about praying for a PS3 exclusive

I can say the samething about PS3 fans waiting Mass Effect and saying they want to come or wanting Elder IV or these other games.

I mean I don't hope for 360 exclusives to be ported, I mean that is what makes the consoles different and attractive in different ways

So you wouldnt of cared at all if Elders IV never came to the PS3?

I mean I get happy when something becomes more multi-platformed diverse, like Oblivion,

and like MGS4 a great game everyone should play as well and FFXIII. PS3 can have FFVS.

unless they were made to be multi-platformed. But games like FF13 are home grown, why wish for it to be ported?

Elders IV was home for the 360. Then it went multi.

If Square doesn't pull a lazy dev act then FFXIII will work fine the 360. Keep FFXIII for all I care. I don't care elther way I think its coming thats all.

I mean I get happy when something becomes more multi-platformed diverse, like MGS4,

Avris-the-Raxsiv

I done repied to that. I know what Shinji Hashimoto said I was replying to what he said.

[monkeybutt]

It runs on Windows SO yea.

Did it run on windows in Japan, if it did, how well did it sell? If I recall, the PC versions were known to be duds, and recieved horrible ratings and no praise by fans.

Of course we all want it to go multiplatform, then we could just buy a 360. xD But I think MGS4 and FF13 both have sony's cash plastered all over them (Similar to Mistwalker basically digging around in MS's pockets - Come on, Sakuragi or whatever the guy's name is, is so freaking biased in his comments simple because MS is writing his paycheck). I dont think Sony is letting the two companies let it go multiplatform, they are supposed to be those PS3 defining games.

[SuperEclipse]

Originally Posted by monkeybutt

id it run on windows in Japan, if it did, how well did it sell? If I recall, the PC versions were known to be duds, and recieved horrible ratings and no praise by fans.

They sucked because lazy ports. It would have been nice if they took the PC power and used it.

Of course we all want it to go multiplatform, then we could just buy a 360. xD But I think MGS4 and FF13 both have sony's cash plastered all over them (Similar to Mistwalker basically digging around in MS's pockets - Come on, Sakuragi or whatever the guy's name is, is so freaking biased in his comments simple because MS is writing his paycheck).

Why is everyone so hard on him when Mr.Hideo does the samething pretty much?

This just end, the KZ2 dev says Sony is the best system. Well duh, if you work for Sony or MS and even Nintendo you going to say stuff like that. To help hype your game and hope who ever side you took is going to win.

dont think Sony is letting the two companies let it go multiplatform, they are supposed to be those PS3 defining games.

Wasn't the samething said about DMC4 etc..

I mean Grimm said'' I dont think Sony is letting that title go, its on Sony website. So I'm sure Sony paid the big bucks to keep that game..((Oh the good times. I got flamed by everyone, when I said DMC4 was coming to the 360.)).

Anyway, will well see. If MGS4 or FFXIII isn't said for the 360 after they been out for 6 months.. I will be happy to say I was wrong..

But I'm not going to be wrong.

[Raticus]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

Anyway, will well see. If MGS4 or FFXIII isn't said for the 360 after they been out for 6 months.. I will be happy to say I was wrong..

But I'm not going to be wrong.

I personally find it hilarious how you pick and choose what information you want to believe, while disregarding any conflicting facts.

There has been zero information that would indicate Final Fantasy XIII would head to a multiplatform release, other than baseless rumors purpoted by fanboys/girls of the system they want it on.

Square-Enix has no plans to port FFXIII or FFvXIII to the 360, Wii, or PC. From Hashimoto himself. Is that to say that Square-Enix would never bring Final Fantasy games to the 360? No. Square-Enix recently debunked that FF on the 360 is not out of the question in the future. However, the fact that Square-Enix has no plans for FF on the 360 at this point still stands. As does Nomura's statement about "no FFVII PS3 remake is planned ( or in development )".

We have to accept these facts from what they are ( straight from the horse's mouth ) and then make educated guesses on what Square-Enix has planned.

Which, deducting from current information, would be 360 fans will unfortunately not be seeing FFXIII and FFvXIII on their console of choice.

[SuperEclipse]

Originally Posted by Shamdeo

I personally find it hilarious how you pick and choose what information you want to believe, while disregarding any conflicting facts.

1.Square likes money
2. PS3 isn't hot in NA.
3. Square has to look at NA as well
4. FNC isn't just for PS3 and Mobile. Yet Square just came back said they have no plans to bring any FFXIII to the Wii or 360 etc. hmh.
5, Square has always said.''We don't reply to rumors.'' Yet they just did and said.

Square-Enix has no plans to port FFXIII or FFvXIII to the 360, Wii, or PC. From Hashimoto himself. Is that to say that Square-Enix would never bring Final Fantasy games to the 360?

May I ask you. How many times has a dev said that line. We have no plans to port this game yet do?


I find it kind of funny. Square said they never reply rumors. Yet they replied to this one and said currently its a blank page.. Why didn't they just say''It's black page we arent going to do it.''

I guess the term "currently blank page" can be easily interpreted as: "we haven't made up our minds as of this very moment, but we're looking at the possibility." If Sony had ponied up exclusive rights then Square-Enix probably would've said something different. I wouldn't be surprised if MS reps are talking to SE about FFXIII on 360 right this very minute.

[Raticus]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

1.Square likes money
2. PS3 isn't hot in NA.
3. Square has to look at NA as well
4. FNC isn't just for PS3 and Mobile. Yet Square just came back said they have no plans to bring any FFXIII to the Wii or 360 etc. hmh.
5, Square has always said.''We don't reply to rumors.'' Yet they just did and said.

May I ask you. How many times has a dev said that line. We have no plans to port this game yet do?

You have to take what they say for what it is, being that they are the only source for their own company.

If Square-Enix says, "We aren't developing Final Fantasy XIV at this time.", it doesn't mean that Final Fantasy XIV is on the 360 and has a llama for a main character because you feel it in your gut.

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

I find it kind of funny. Square said they never reply rumors. Yet they replied to this one and said currently its a blank page.. Why didn't they just say''It's black page we arent going to do it.''

That's correct. It's a blank page they may intend to fill. I never said they wouldn't develop FF on the 360.

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

I guess the term "currently blank page" can be easily interpreted as: "we haven't made up our minds as of this very moment, but we're looking at the possibility." If Sony had ponied up exclusive rights then Square-Enix probably would've said something different. I wouldn't be surprised if MS reps are talking to SE about FFXIII on 360 right this very minute.

Again, SuperEclipse, we have to take what information we do have into consideration instead of stating the opposite of what the source says. Which is:

No plans to port to FNC on to the 360 or other systems other than mobile phones and PS3. Plans in the future for 360/Microsoft FF projects? Possibly. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

That's the gist of it. No more nor less.

[New2Ya]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

I find it kind of funny. Square said they never reply rumors. Yet they replied to this one and said currently its a blank page.. Why didn't they just say''It's black page we arent going to do it.''

I guess the term "currently blank page" can be easily interpreted as: "we haven't made up our minds as of this very moment, but we're looking at the possibility." If Sony had ponied up exclusive rights then Square-Enix probably would've said something different. I wouldn't be surprised if MS reps are talking to SE about FFXIII on 360 right this very minute.

Why would you want a port anyways, man. Gheez, do you have any experience with Square ports?! They're crap.

I give you:
- Final Fantasy VII PC - Filled with bugs
- Final Fantasy VIII PC - Fillllled with bugs
- Final Fantasy XI 360 - You said it yourself, a crappy port

Square is lazy with ports. Why do you want to play a half-a$$ version of the PS3 version, when you can play the PS3 version in 2009 when you "own a PS3" according to your own words.

Also, Square is almost always like that "currently we have no plans."
It was the same with FFVII and FFVIII remake as a rumour I believe. And definetly the same with the FFVII remake for PS3 after the tech demo the first year.

[monkeybutt]

Ouch, I have to agree with New2ya much more on this one! It seems everyone Square says something, those literally dying for a 360 version will analyze what they say to the pulp to try and make it seem one way or the other, when there really is nothing to analyze.

[SuperEclipse]

Originally Posted by New2ya

Why would you want a port anyways, man. Gheez, do you have any experience with Square ports?! They're crap

I really think if Square brings FFXIII to the 360. They wouldnt be lazy.

I give you:
- Final Fantasy VII PC - Filled with bugs
- Final Fantasy VIII PC - Fillllled with bugs
- Final Fantasy XI 360 - You said it yourself, a crappy port

Yet if they tried they could done well. FFXI would been done fine if ran there MMOs better.

Square is lazy with ports. Why do you want to play a half-a$$ version of the PS3 version, when you can play the PS3 version in 2009 when you "own a PS3" according to your own words.

Like I said, I dont care if comes or not.. I do think its going to come. Yes I plan to buy a PS3.

t was the same with FFVII and FFVIII remake as a rumour I believe. And definetly the same with the FFVII remake for PS3 after the tech demo the first year.

Yet Square said they will be a FFVII remake one day, just not now.. So its a currently blank page.

The Tech demo is the lame too use for a FFVII remake, I mean where is my FFVI remake for the N64 and your FFVIII remake for the PS2?

[New2Ya]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

I really think if Square brings FFXIII to the 360. They wouldnt be lazy.

LMAO. Because? As if FFXIII is more important than FFVII or FFVIII was...

Yet if they tried they could done well. FFXI would been done fine if ran there MMOs better.

Or if 360 owners actually BOUGHT the game so they could actually MMO each other, instead of sitting in FFXI world with 2-5 people walking around...

Yet Square said they will be a FFVII remake one day, just not now.. So its a currently blank page.

Nuh uh. They never said there will be a FFVII remake. They haven't gone further than saying "We like the idea."
That's far from a confirmation, sadly enough.

The Tech demo is the lame too use for a FFVII remake, I mean where is my FFVI remake for the N64 and your FFVIII remake for the PS2?

Yet rumours were there, and they were FAR stronger than the louzy 360 rumours that have been flying around ever since the FFXIII announcement for PS3. The FFVII remake actually had something to stand on...

360 is doing crap in Japan, doing mediocre to fine in Europe and great in America. Majority of 360 owners have never played a FF game and I can safely say that the majority of 360 owners dont plan to do so either. Look, you are TOTALLY right that there are 360 ownres that are dying for a JRPG. And they are getting those JRPGs. But you also know very well that XBOX has always been the homeplatform for FPS fans. That's it.

Playstation and Nintendo consoles have always been a home platform for JRPGs, and they still are. The biggest JRPG makers still go for those two platforms. Why? Because they got a strong fanbase. That's all it is.

Nintendo: Zelda, Pokémon, Dragon Quest (millions millions millioisn of fans)
Playstation: Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Level5 games (millions millions millions of fans)
XBOX: Mistwalker games, MMO's, other devs new to RPGs (all need to establish fans, where some of those devs dont have any experience with RPGs as of yet either)

Im sorry, but the way the ball is rolling now, 360 sees no Final Fantasy. Maybe something will change, but I doubt it. Not now. And secretly I'm also crossing my fingers for it, because I'm happy as an RPG fan that I have a max of 2 platforms to choose from, and not having to get all 3 platforms for my RPG needs. XD