Who literally played all SquareEnix games?

[Heartless1990]

I've played all Squaresoft's games. Some are so hard to play because the graphics back then make me want to shiver now. I haven't played much of Enix's games in fact, the dragon Warrior saga is a mystery to me.

[Banishing Blade]

So, if you've played all SquareSoft games, you've played the games that they made when they were known as SunSoft? Yes, it was called SunSoft at one point, way back when they were a crappy company that was about to go bankrupt. Before they did, they made one final game, it was a new thing for this company, it was their final fantasy to make it as a gaming company. Once they released that game (Final Fantasy 1 dur) they made so much money they saved themselves from bankruptcy, and changed their names to SquareSoft.

So, no offense, I doubt that you could have played them all of their games.

[DarrcEnigma]

Originally Posted by Banishing Blade

So, if you've played all SquareSoft games, you've played the games that they made when they were known as SunSoft?

You sure about that? The SunSoft I know of has been around for a good twenty years, is responsible for games like Monsterseed and Chameleon Twist, and is still an active game developer/publisher in Japan last I heard, though I haven't seen any US games in a number of years.

As for the original topic, I doubt very many (if any) people have managed to play every Square and Enix game created, especially someone under the age of 20-25. Both companies have been around since the 80's, and neither has released all of their games in the US, though Square has certainly released more than Enix. Hence, you would need to import a lot of games and have the proper equipment to play them, unless we're to move into the forbidden area of "ROMs and Emulators." In which case it's somewhat possible, though still unlikely -- a lot of their games aren't "good" and/or aren't really known outside of Japan, and therefore have little to no fan base, making the likelihood of finding a ROM rather low.

That being said, I've personally played around 15 to 20 Square and Enix games, with two of the oldest being King's Knight and Dragon Warrior, both for the NES. By the end of next year, that number will have risen a considerable amount with releases such as Kingdom Hearts II, Radiata Stories and Dragon Warrior/Quest VIII.

[Banishing Blade]

Originally Posted by DarrcEnigma

You sure about that? The SunSoft I know of has been around for a good twenty years, is responsible for games like Monsterseed and Chameleon Twist, and is still an active game developer/publisher in Japan last I heard, though I haven't seen any US games in a number of years.

That's what I read in an article in one of my video game magazines. At least, I'm pretty sure the name was Sunsoft. But I do know that there was another name before SquareSoft, and that company was on the virge of bankruptcy.

Anyway, I've probably played about 15 Square games, and maybe only 2 or 3 Enix games. I can't remember hearing about Enix before the merge, so I don't remember any of their games. And I've yet to play a Dragon Quest (Warrior) game unfortunately.

[DarrcEnigma]

Originally Posted by Banishing Blade

That's what I read in an article in one of my video game magazines. At least, I'm pretty sure the name was Sunsoft. But I do know that there was another name before SquareSoft, and that company was on the virge of bankruptcy.

I looked into it a bit on Wikipedia and found a link to Square Enix's history. According to both sites, the only name prior to "Square Soft, Inc." was "Square Co., Ltd." Which means one of two things. One, that the magazine in question was wrong, or two: That the founding members of Square Co., Ltd were former employees of another company. (Which isn't mentioned one way or another by either website.) In this regard, companies such as Monolith Soft (Xenosaga), Mistwalker and Sacnoth (now known as "Nautilus" and creator of "Koudelka" and "Shadow Hearts") could be added to the "Square Games" category as well, since all three of those companies were created by ex-Square Enix employees.

With a little more looking, it does seem that Sunsoft and Squaresoft had some interaction at one point, though. According to RPGamer.com Sunsoft was responsible for re-releasing Squaresoft's early GameBoy titles back in the late 90's. Namely the Final Fantasy Legends and Final Fantasy Adventure games.

[Banishing Blade]

Okay, I guess that means that my magazine is wrong. I think I'll write them a letter. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Even if Square Co. Ltd. was created by ex-Sunsoft employees, we wouldn't count those as games made by Square-Enix. But what about games that were developed by Square, but produced by another company. I think (keyword being think) that Breath of Fire, the first one,was developed by SquareSoft, but produced by Capcom. I'm not sure about that though, but do those games count as well?

[Drama Setter]

uh...u guys are crazy!!lol playing all the game square has created...

i have FFX and FFX2
KH
and another game i forgot...but thats it

[DarrcEnigma]

Originally Posted by Banishing Blade

I think (keyword being think) that Breath of Fire, the first one,was developed by SquareSoft, but produced by Capcom. I'm not sure about that though, but do those games count as well?

Now see, that's where things start to get tricky -- it's pretty hard to tell which games were actually made by Square Enix, or which games were just published and/or translated by them. Chain of Memories, for example, was made by a gaming company called "Jupiter." I don't know anything about this company, but I'm assuming that Square Enix owns it much like Azure own Nautilus or Microsoft owns Bungie. Thing is, I'm not sure, and I've never had any luck getting information on the developer because it shares it's name with a planet.

That aside, Capcom actually did create the original Breath of Fire. Squaresoft was just given the job of localizing the game, which it has done several times -- another game they localized, according to Wikipedia, was Wild Arms 3 (PS2). Perhaps because of their success with the Final Fantasy series; I couldn't tell you for sure one way or another. Square Enix has apparently had interaction with a lot of other companies (including Nintendo and Electronic Arts), so tracking down every game the company has worked on -- even if it was something like localizing it -- would be quite challenging. I think sticking to this list from GameSpot would probably be the best idea. A lot of the games on that list are repeated and/or were never released outside of Japan, though.

[Banishing Blade]

Originally Posted by DaDides

uh...u guys are crazy!!lol playing all the game square has created...

i have FFX and FFX2
KH
and another game i forgot...but thats it

How is that crazy? I just think that Square Enix makes great games, better than most other companies. Plus, I usually stick to RPG's and SE does make the best ones.

Originally Posted by Darrc Enigma

That aside, Capcom actually did create the original Breath of Fire. Squaresoft was just given the job of localizing the game, which it has done several times

Wrong again, my magazine is...they're gonna be getting a lot of letters if this keeps up...

So for now, we'll rule out games that SE had little to do with (ie just localizing) and we'll stick with games that they produced and developed. How does that sound?

[Heartless1990]

Originally Posted by Banishing Blade

I just think that Square Enix makes great games, better than most other companies. Plus, I usually stick to RPG's and SE does make the best ones

A lot of their games are horrible...HORRIBLE...They spend a lot of time on games that are good like the Final Fantasy series or Kingdom Hearts. When Square doesn't spend GREAT detail into designing the game, the end result of the game always has EXTREME flaws.

Star Ocean Till the End of time: Horrible voice acting, long and repetitive, boring plot
The Bouncer: Erk...the name gave me chills and the game itself was..."WTF?!"
Unlimited Saga: ....................It's Unlimited Saga...the game that got a 4 out of 10 on gamespot. IT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDD....


Square's games are only good when they really try hard on making the game. Otherwise, their games seem so bad it seems like someone was drunk when designing it.

[Sora_99]

I haven't played all of them but I think it would be fun.

[~X~]

lol well i played alot of Enix games ( every final fantasy )

[Banishing Blade]

Originally Posted by Crypt

lol well i played alot of Enix games ( every final fantasy )

Final Fantasy isn't Enix, it's Square - for the most part.

And, yes, if they don't put all their effort into a game, it is pretty bad. Well, not bad, but flawed in many, many ways.

[DarrcEnigma]

While that's true, it's also the case with every game developer out there. Quality is based on time spent, hence little time typically means low quality -- or at the very least, a lot of recycled graphics, areas and the like. Something along the lines of FFX and FFX-2, in other words.

As for "bad" Square/Enix games, I agree that Unlimited Saga is near-unplayable, but I completely disagree with the comments made towards The Bouncer and Star Ocean 3. Both were decent games for their release period, and although both obviously had some flaws (SO3's Director's Cut took care of a lot before it came to the US), I found them enjoyable anyway. The beginning segments of SO3 are admittedly boring, but once it picks up, it's a very nice game in my opinion. It has a nice amount of replay value as well, which is something you don't find very often in today's RPGs -- as is a difficulty setting.

The Bouncer's only real problem was that it was more of a movie than a fighting game. But since it's release, we've seen games like Xenosaga that have just as much (if not more) scene time as play time, so in reality, The Bouncer has probably become more "acceptable" as time passed. The story itself was rather basic, but still enjoyable enough if you ask me.

[pwn3d]

that is not possible as you need to be like a billionare in japan to buy all the shit

and in america you need to buy even more shit

there are some games that americans got that the japanese didn't get

and vice-versa so that is impossible