Hardest Square game boss

The Grim Reaper · 07/12/05, 05:36 AM

What's the hardest Square-Enix game boss to you? Mine is Lavos from Chrono Trigger. I've played many Square games, mostly FF games, but Lavos is the hardest boss in a game developed by Square that I've faced so far. It took a while for me to beat it, you have to fight it three times in three different forms, and trust me, this thing is even harder than Sephiroth from FF7 because in Chrono Trigger there are no summons!

Riku's friend · 07/12/05, 07:12 AM

I thought lavos was pretty easy myself. havent played ff7 or finished ff8, so i'd have to say necron in ff9, but only cos he does random status effects to everyone, usually death.

DarrcEnigma · 07/12/05, 07:44 AM

I found Lavos pretty easy as well. If you play through the game at a reasonably steady leveling rate, it's not that bad. Trying to beat him alone or at the start of a new game plus to see another ending is a different story, though.

When I think of tough bosses for Squaresoft / Square Enix, it's always the optional bosses that come to mind. Thinking back, I can't remember a single end boss that was too tough. Even without KOTR I didn't find Sephiroth that hard in VII, he just kept nailing me and forcing me to heal every other turn or so. Between Quad-Summoning Bahamut ZERO, using the other summons and hitting him with physical attacks, I couldn't have spent more than a handful of minutes fighting him in each stage. Once I learned of KOTR, it obviously took a lot less effort to beat him.

That being said, I've currently only played nine Square Enix games start to finish. Out of those nine I think the hardest standard boss I've come across so far has to be either Riku IV, Riku VI or Ansem from Chain of Memories. Even knowing what to do, they're still hard and/or outright annoying. Add that to the limits the card-based system puts on you, and you're left with some frustrating, nearly-cheating bosses.

For optional bosses, it's just the usual selection of "big names." Personally though, Emerald Weapon (VII) and Omega Weapon (VIII) probably beat me senseless the most. Ultima Weapon (VIII) wasn't exactly easy either if you're unprepared, but Renozokuken (sp?) and Lionheart pretty much do away with him without much trouble, thus making the trip down to meet him many times harder than actually beating him. As far as the seldom-mentioned Nemesis (X) goes, he's another pushover. Hastega, Auto-Life, Quick Hit and decent attack and speed stats are all you need aside from a lot of patience. Shinryu (X) was another optional boss that gave me some troubles as well. Though honestly, that was only because I never used Wakka and Rikku, leaving it a mostly one-on-one battle with Tidus.

vampire_lord00 · 07/12/05, 08:31 AM

mine is chernabog from kh. that stupid attack where he explodes would killl me everytime i got caught in it even with prefect health.

**Wallflower** · 07/12/05, 05:55 PM

The Gargoyle when you're at the end of the Gnosis Ship(Xenosaga) was pretty hard... Riku IV is a pain in the ass, and Evrae is hard as hell. But out of all of those, Evrae is the hardest.

Ferry13 · 07/12/05, 06:03 PM

evrea was hard the first time i was like he s invinceble
but the second time he was easy i kicked his butt with just using tidus wakka yuna and lulu but i had trouble with yunalesca the first time 2 but the first time wan t my own data i got a save data from a friend cause my cd was stuck at a place and his dat was beyond that when i got a new one which worked the game was easier

i think ozma ff9 (cause sometimes his meteor does 9999 even when lvl 99 and max defense but he wasn t 2 hard it took me 3 times) and the 2 stronest waepons in ff7 were pretty hard
ff8 with lionheart they were easy without not

The Grim Reaper · 07/12/05, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferry13

i think ozma ff9 (cause sometimes his meteor does 9999 even when lvl 99 and max defense but he wasn t 2 hard it took me 3 times) and the 2 stronest waepons in ff7 were pretty hard
ff8 with lionheart they were easy without not

I had forgotten about that thing and the weapons from FF7! But I'll just say Lavos is the hardest must fight boss and Ozma is the hardest optional boss, I had to train a while to get my Dragon Crest up to beat Ozma but overall, Ozma is a lot harder than Lavos.

**chaywa** · 07/12/05, 06:43 PM

I still reckon Sephiroth in both FF7 and KH were bloody hard. I always ended up dying quickly on both games.

Ferry13 · 07/12/05, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chaywa

I still reckon Sephiroth in both FF7 and KH were bloody hard. I always ended up dying quickly on both games.

ff7 was easy exept if you didn t have ribbon cause without it supernova had a lot of annoying status effects but with ribbon he not hard at all but with kotr he s super easy but i heard if you use kotr in other battles seph becomes stronger

DarkZerox · 07/12/05, 07:50 PM

i don't think Xenosaga is from square but whatever. I guess you guys might of not played drakengard that is the most annoying game even though you get to kill people fighting with the dragon sucks

W.o.F · 07/13/05, 01:01 AM

Well i never really fought an optional boss in ff9, but necron was a huge pain. i remeber looking up a guide on how to kill him.. and every guide said just do your best. I kiled him like at lvl 50 ish. Then i went to a lan center the next day and meet a guy who said you shouldnt have even faced him till like lvl 65. but yea he was extremly difficult

Edit: forgot to mention necron took my 11 times before i actually killed him.

Banishing Blade · 07/13/05, 04:26 AM

Sephiroth in FFVII was a , I mean, he was WAY too easy.

The only hard bosses are the optional ones, like Ozma in FFIX. That guy was a pain in the arse. Hades was pretty hard too. I havent' gotten around to fighting too many more of the optional ones, so it's kinda hard to say who else would be hard.

Fantasy Angel · 07/13/05, 04:35 AM

Jeebus! Def. Necron, no matter how stupid he looked his attacks were badass. Although I think Emerald and Ruby (FFVII) take the cake, oh! What was that optional boss from KH Aladdin called? He was a b1tch! Never did beat him, and probably never will.

Xenosaga is Nameco's isn't it?

~Fantasy Angel

**Wallflower** · 07/13/05, 02:41 PM

Kurt Zisa. And yeah, he was kinda tough. But, you kinda figure it out after a while. Xenosaga is Square Enix, anyways. OH! I forgot about Seymore Flux, in FFX. Well, any type of Seymore, really. Except for the first time you fight him. I killed him in the first try. XP

Ferry13 · 07/13/05, 02:59 PM

i beat kurt on my second try on lvl 65
when i was 100 the first time i nthink phantom is ayyoying not strong cause you gota cast magic on the clocktower(stopra)

07/12/05, 05:36 AM	#1
The Grim Reaper Just Visiting Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Away from you Posts: 2,873 Rep Power: 7	Hardest Square game boss What's the hardest Square-Enix game boss to you? Mine is Lavos from Chrono Trigger. I've played many Square games, mostly FF games, but Lavos is the hardest boss in a game developed by Square that I've faced so far. It took a while for me to beat it, you have to fight it three times in three different forms, and trust me, this thing is even harder than Sephiroth from FF7 because in Chrono Trigger there are no summons!

07/12/05, 07:12 AM	#2
Riku's friend Keyblade Novice Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simutaniously everywhere and nowhere Age: 18 Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	Re: Hardest Square game boss I thought lavos was pretty easy myself. havent played ff7 or finished ff8, so i'd have to say necron in ff9, but only cos he does random status effects to everyone, usually death.

07/12/05, 07:44 AM	#3
DarrcEnigma Organization Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Age: 22 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 0	Re: Hardest Square game boss I found Lavos pretty easy as well. If you play through the game at a reasonably steady leveling rate, it's not that bad. Trying to beat him alone or at the start of a new game plus to see another ending is a different story, though. When I think of tough bosses for Squaresoft / Square Enix, it's always the optional bosses that come to mind. Thinking back, I can't remember a single end boss that was too tough. Even without KOTR I didn't find Sephiroth that hard in VII, he just kept nailing me and forcing me to heal every other turn or so. Between Quad-Summoning Bahamut ZERO, using the other summons and hitting him with physical attacks, I couldn't have spent more than a handful of minutes fighting him in each stage. Once I learned of KOTR, it obviously took a lot less effort to beat him. That being said, I've currently only played nine Square Enix games start to finish. Out of those nine I think the hardest standard boss I've come across so far has to be either Riku IV, Riku VI or Ansem from Chain of Memories. Even knowing what to do, they're still hard and/or outright annoying. Add that to the limits the card-based system puts on you, and you're left with some frustrating, nearly-cheating bosses. For optional bosses, it's just the usual selection of "big names." Personally though, Emerald Weapon (VII) and Omega Weapon (VIII) probably beat me senseless the most. Ultima Weapon (VIII) wasn't exactly easy either if you're unprepared, but Renozokuken (sp?) and Lionheart pretty much do away with him without much trouble, thus making the trip down to meet him many times harder than actually beating him. As far as the seldom-mentioned Nemesis (X) goes, he's another pushover. Hastega, Auto-Life, Quick Hit and decent attack and speed stats are all you need aside from a lot of patience. Shinryu (X) was another optional boss that gave me some troubles as well. Though honestly, that was only because I never used Wakka and Rikku, leaving it a mostly one-on-one battle with Tidus.

07/12/05, 08:31 AM	#4
vampire_lord00 poopty puepty pants Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: in an acid trip fantasyland Age: 16 Posts: 779 Rep Power: 4	Re: Hardest Square game boss mine is chernabog from kh. that stupid attack where he explodes would killl me everytime i got caught in it even with prefect health.

07/12/05, 05:55 PM	#5
Wallflower that's when we'll explode Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I can't help but get a certain stalker vibe from you. Age: 15 Posts: 3,271 Rep Power: 8	Re: Hardest Square game boss The Gargoyle when you're at the end of the Gnosis Ship(Xenosaga) was pretty hard... Riku IV is a pain in the ass, and Evrae is hard as hell. But out of all of those, Evrae is the hardest.

07/12/05, 06:03 PM	#6
Ferry13 O_o a dancing Gaara Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rotterdam in the netherlands and in my house and in my own small fantasy world Age: 17 Posts: 1,302 Rep Power: 5	Re: Hardest Square game boss evrea was hard the first time i was like he s invinceble but the second time he was easy i kicked his butt with just using tidus wakka yuna and lulu but i had trouble with yunalesca the first time 2 but the first time wan t my own data i got a save data from a friend cause my cd was stuck at a place and his dat was beyond that when i got a new one which worked the game was easier i think ozma ff9 (cause sometimes his meteor does 9999 even when lvl 99 and max defense but he wasn t 2 hard it took me 3 times) and the 2 stronest waepons in ff7 were pretty hard ff8 with lionheart they were easy without not

07/12/05, 06:43 PM	#8
chaywa (E)motion Isn't Meaning Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chamber of Guf Age: 19 Posts: 5,498 Rep Power: 12	Re: Hardest Square game boss I still reckon Sephiroth in both FF7 and KH were bloody hard. I always ended up dying quickly on both games.

07/12/05, 07:50 PM	#10
DarkZerox Keyblade Novice Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mountain top Age: 16 Posts: 74 Rep Power: 0	Re: Hardest Square game boss i don't think Xenosaga is from square but whatever. I guess you guys might of not played drakengard that is the most annoying game even though you get to kill people fighting with the dragon sucks

07/13/05, 01:01 AM	#11
W.o.F Heartless Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A crummy Apt Age: 18 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Re: Hardest Square game boss Well i never really fought an optional boss in ff9, but necron was a huge pain. i remeber looking up a guide on how to kill him.. and every guide said just do your best. I kiled him like at lvl 50 ish. Then i went to a lan center the next day and meet a guy who said you shouldnt have even faced him till like lvl 65. but yea he was extremly difficult Edit: forgot to mention necron took my 11 times before i actually killed him.

07/13/05, 04:26 AM	#12
Banishing Blade Iron Tomato Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ontario Age: 18 Posts: 3,731 Rep Power: 8	Re: Hardest Square game boss Sephiroth in FFVII was a , I mean, he was WAY too easy. The only hard bosses are the optional ones, like Ozma in FFIX. That guy was a pain in the arse. Hades was pretty hard too. I havent' gotten around to fighting too many more of the optional ones, so it's kinda hard to say who else would be hard.

07/13/05, 04:35 AM	#13
Fantasy Angel Keyblade Weilder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 20 Posts: 217 Rep Power: 0	Re: Hardest Square game boss Jeebus! Def. Necron, no matter how stupid he looked his attacks were badass. Although I think Emerald and Ruby (FFVII) take the cake, oh! What was that optional boss from KH Aladdin called? He was a b1tch! Never did beat him, and probably never will. Xenosaga is Nameco's isn't it? ~Fantasy Angel

07/13/05, 02:41 PM	#14
Wallflower that's when we'll explode Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I can't help but get a certain stalker vibe from you. Age: 15 Posts: 3,271 Rep Power: 8	Re: Hardest Square game boss Kurt Zisa. And yeah, he was kinda tough. But, you kinda figure it out after a while. Xenosaga is Square Enix, anyways. OH! I forgot about Seymore Flux, in FFX. Well, any type of Seymore, really. Except for the first time you fight him. I killed him in the first try. XP

07/13/05, 02:59 PM	#15
Ferry13 O_o a dancing Gaara Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rotterdam in the netherlands and in my house and in my own small fantasy world Age: 17 Posts: 1,302 Rep Power: 5	Re: Hardest Square game boss i beat kurt on my second try on lvl 65 when i was 100 the first time i nthink phantom is ayyoying not strong cause you gota cast magic on the clocktower(stopra)

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