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| <3 Emily | Okay, I'm going to stir up a storm here, but uh... Spirits Within > Advent Children. Now, how could this be? How could a movie with pretty boy Cloud and gang not be better than an original piece that had no direct connection to any Final Fantasy game? I'm not trying to just blatantly troll here. There's an honestly very good reason as to why this is. And I'll list them off.
I have SO MUCH more to say on this subject, but I unfortunatly have to run off and do some quick chores. I'll come back to this and add to this entire list just for you. oh, and inb4 fanboys. Last edited by Raticus; 06/29/08 at 04:23 AM. Reason: He was too lazy to spellcheck! NYA NYA~! |
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| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plotting.
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Rep Power: 13 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | lol I never saw that film. After reading this, I think I'll make some time to watch it. But uh yeah AC and FF7 are way overrated. |
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| ~Ichiban~ | I 100% agree with you.. I loved the Spirits Within the movie was decent. It's too bad fanboys was bias with it. It's also too bad we won't see another like it, I thought it was well done and it had better story((IMO)) and those are some good ass points. Last edited by SuperEclipse; 06/29/08 at 04:17 AM. |
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| Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: In your arms, hating mah life Age: 12
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Rep Power: 4 ![]() | *Stamps seal of approval on topic* I need to see Spirits WIthin again... |
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| swathed in ever-light | Again, everyone has their preferences when it comes to the multi-faceted series; let's try to be respectful to others when we have discussions like this. I enjoyed the movie; it definetly wasn't what I expected, but ultimately ( while pointing out to our beloved D Athier some of connections to the series ) became a faithful retelling of some of the games' main themes despite it's unorthodox setting. |
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| Banned | it was actually a good movie, and the only reason ppl were biased against it (as already stated) was for the fact that it wasn't anything like the FF series. Now as for the comparisons yes FFSW was better than the AC movie, but as far as AC they could've made it allot more in depht. Their just two different stories, If the FF7 had its story and titles redone in one whole movie then i might say something more in depht on the comparisons. As of now, all we can say is that Spirits within was one with its own storyline, and AC was just a small story bit to a more vast series. |
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| Oreniji is so motherfucking gar | F**k I just lost a long post thanks to Firefox. *sigh* well most people would just go tl;dr anyway... To put it shortly: Spirits Within > AC Spirits Within had an actual story and felt like a FF and RE crossover to me because of the protagonist and antagonist relationship ( cat & mouse), while AC was about Cloud thinking and regretting what he had done in the past, thinking of Aerith/Aeris etc. AC had great fighting scenes though, but they couldn't compensate the lack of a story... |
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| BBS ftw! | What Spirits Within lacked was Final Fantasy elements. That's what made it so bad. Alien meteors and life force, that's not Final Fantasy. Only people that regard that AS Final Fantasy are FF7 zombies. What makes Final Fantasy is Moogles/Moombas, Chocobo's, Magic (Fire/Fira/Firaga, etc), Biggs and Wedge, Nobuo Uematsu music (at the time, that is), Amano-logo (or at least A logo), Summons (Ifrit, Odin, Bahamut and Shiva being THE CORE summons), Cactuar/Tonberry (CLASSICS!!), certain jobs (Black mages in particular)and of course an airship (Ragnarok, Highwind). Spirits Within had none of that. One thing I didnt add was Cid, because SW did have that, however even with that, it failed miserably. WHO THE HELL SPELLS CID WITH AN S!!!! Sorry, as a FF title, it failed. As a movie? Mediocre at best... No worries, I didnt like AC either. |
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| No. 4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Urahara Store Age: 16
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Rep Power: 7 ![]() ![]() | agree with new2ya... Spirits within was indeed better than ac... but not suitable to carry 'Final Fantasy' in it's title. |
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| Banned | Quote:
no nevermind, but there were strange ones like Mogcid and so forth Last edited by *~NeoAdamus~*; 06/29/08 at 08:39 PM. | |
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| Sprendid Rike a Friar Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Awesometown Age: 22
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Rep Power: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Spirits Within was a terrible movie in every way shape and form. I understand the story, and it's just done too quickly and too.......... well.... it requires the viewer to make a lot of assumptions and doesn't connect things together very well. It's like a short story, not a movie. Advent Children never really had to be made. However it was. It wasn't made to be compared with the Spirits Within. I'm absolutely sick and tired of the Final Fantasy VII hate from everyone who plays Final Fantasy games. Don't like the game? Get the hell over it. Seriously. This isn't about flaming a successful game because you're butthurt to hell that FF4,5,6,8 and 9 don't get all the special treatment 7 does. Yeah, it's not God's gift to gaming or storytelling, but it's a damned solid game in its own right. Advent Children does connect to Final Fantasy VII, and therefore is not entirely just fanservice. Unlike Spirits Within, it was not made for the general public, but it was made for people who enjoyed Final Fantasy VII and wanted to see the characters again and get a bit of a conclusion about the story. It was honestly the only FF I can think of that had an open ending that didn't really conclude. Now it's wrapped up in a neat little package with the end of Advent Children. Also, I have to disagree with the idea that the voice acting was bad, since I felt the English voice acting was actually rather good in the movie. I was pleasantly surprised when I watched it in English after seeing it in Japanese. It was nowhere near as poor as FFX's voice acting was, and it was a feature length film. They did it well, but people love to find anything and everything they can to absolutely tear apart something they dislike on principle. I don't understand how anyone could feel SW is better than AC .-. I really don't. I'm not saying either are good films, because they're not. Neither are. However AC didn't try to market itself as a film, where Spirits Within did. That makes SW a bigger failure in my opinion. Seriously, people think FF7 fanboys are bad, but the FF7 blind haters are ten thousand times worse, and they outnumber the fanboys these days. |
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| Fight 'em til we can't. | Well, for starters, Lea Stro...lan..gea...whatever-her-name is, was in Spirits Within (Aki). Along with Mulan (and thus KHII), Les Miserables, Miss Saigon, etc. Her voice, ALONE, made the movie. All in all, I don't think that AC took itself so seriously as a movie, whereas Spirits Within did. AC was trying to go for the whole arcade/hack-n-slash thing with really nice graphics. *shrug* And wasn't it barely over an hour long? |
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| I'm chocolate chip | I liked this movie. A lot. Fags don't like it because it wasn't specifically themed after any FF in particular, but they fail to realize that the movie was treated just as any new entry in the series is: it's a completely new universe with new characters. |
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