"Do you think there will be a new 'Compilation of Final Fantasy VII' title?"

[Zoidberg!]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

Compare the graphic of FF1 on NES with those of the GBA or PSP version. Yeah, it's not 3D, but it's a big improvement already!

I don't know if FF2 deserve more a 3D remake than FF7. What I know is that FF7 is more popular than all others FFs said in this thread. I know it's unfair, but protesting against it is not going to make what you want become true.

I mean, it's just logical. Put a remake of FF1 and 2 on PS3, or one of FF7 on PS3. From a business point of view, it's not even a question which one they must do. We are not going to change things.

I know. But, it is so unfair. All these people think that they have actually played the best FF titles, but, really, they should start with the classics.

Plus, an FF1 remake would be strange. I would want an FFVI remake. It would be much better than any FFVII remake that they could ever, ever make.

[Koji]

^That actually comes down to opinion. I've played both FFVII and FFIV (well it was called FF2 but its the one with Cecil) and in my opinion, FFVII is clearly better. Although I'm not so interested in a remake of the game, I definitely would like to see another sequel.

Since FFVII has gotta be the most popular FF, its most likely to get a remake. If you made a game that has millions of fans, and a game that had less than half the fans of the other, would you spend $5 million on a remake for the one that lots of people want to see or the one that few people want to see? I agree that is doesnt seem fair from certain perspectives, but FF1-6 all had a remake. FF7 is waiting patiently next in line.

[Kawaiikousuke]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

I don't know if FF2 deserve more a 3D remake than FF7. What I know is that FF7 is more popular than all others FFs said in this thread. I know it's unfair, but protesting against it is not going to make what you want become true.

I mean, it's just logical. Put a remake of FF1 and 2 on PS3, or one of FF7 on PS3. From a business point of view, it's not even a question which one they must do. We are not going to change things.

I am merely posting my opinions on the matter and just because I disagree with the majority of the so called FF fans doesn't mean my opinion is pointless. I'm going to continue as I have to be against a remake for VII anytime soon no matter what "logic" all the VII fans throw at me.

Just because it's popular it doesn't mean it should be treated like it was God send either.

Compare the graphic of FF1 on NES with those of the GBA or PSP version. Yeah, it's not 3D, but it's a big improvement already!

Bull. Graphics are not just my main concern it's the blatant disregard for the classic games and the fact that VII has more of chance at a remake than those do. It's as if Square has forgotten about the other games that made them what they are.

God I miss Sakaguchi sometimes.

[bamak93]

Like I said before, I've only played 1 and 2 out of the original six.

While I simply adored 1, it doesn't really deserve a 3d remake. Look at it this way:

FFX was confusing enough without them speaking Tidus' name. With 4 nameless characters running around in a 3d world full of voices, there would be public outcry.
That scratches 1 off the list of console remake ideas.

2......was simply TERRIBLE. I started it, and only finished it so I could say someday, "Yes! I've completed all FFs!". Not to mention that Firion was a tool and Maria was a complete nag.
there goes 2.

Out of the original 6, I'd say that 4, 5, and 6 would deserve console remakes. They have better developed characters than the other 3, and the worlds would just be better to explore with a console in a completely 3d world.

I will say this: the lack of popularity for titles before VII has cursed them to perpetual handheld remake status. Soon, we'll see FF1-6 for the DS2 or the PSP2 or whatever handhelds are invented next.

BTW, the order I've played them in so far:

FFXII
FFX
FF1
FF2
FF8(will play within next week when it arrives! )

[Kawaiikousuke]

Originally Posted by bamak93

FFX was confusing enough without them speaking Tidus' name. With 4 nameless characters running around in a 3d world full of voices, there would be public outcry.
That scratches 1 off the list of console remake ideas.

That was because Tidus was allowed to be named by the player thus S-E couldn't let them say his name in the game, which I thought they got away with well. In the case of 1, S-E could just give them names besides warriors of light or use their brains to come up with a script with their anonymity in mind.

Am I asking too much? Probably. Do I care? No.

2......was simply TERRIBLE. I started it, and only finished it so I could say someday, "Yes! I've completed all FFs!". Not to mention that Firion was a tool and Maria was a complete nag.
there goes 2.

I never played all of 2, so I don't have a opinion on it.

I will say this: the lack of popularity for titles before VII has cursed them to perpetual handheld remake status. Soon, we'll see FF1-6 for the DS2 or the PSP2 or whatever handhelds are invented next.

Their popularity shouldn't matter all that much, S-E needs to go back and take risks and show their audience that VII isn't the only thing they care about. I-VI isn't cursed they are just ignored and one way to make that go away is to shed some light on them and market them as much as VII. I couldn't turn on the TV without seeing DoC or AC on it but when I and II had it's 20th anniversary games I never saw anything of it. How do you expect a game to do well if you hide it in the shadows?

Originally Posted by Koji

Since FFVII has gotta be the most popular FF, its most likely to get a remake. If you made a game that has millions of fans, and a game that had less than half the fans of the other, would you spend $5 million on a remake for the one that lots of people want to see or the one that few people want to see? I agree that is doesnt seem fair from certain perspectives, but FF1-6 all had a remake. FF7 is waiting patiently next in line.

This idea of playing it safe is what I hate about S-E nowadays. They won't take risks or market new games that aren't sequels or part of some other popular game, it sad to me. If they remade the other games and actually put forth effort to get it to the public and hype the shit like they do with VII then I see no reason why it couldn't work. With all these stuck up fuckers who refuse to play a FF that isn't in 3D or has voice acting giving them a remake would be good for their shitty pathetic minds. They may not deserve it but I feel it would help IMHO. Also I think the games would do fine as remakes none the less.

Also those remakes were just ports expect for III and IV, all they had were prettier sprites and a few FMVs.

[SuperEclipse]

FFX was confusing enough without them speaking Tidus' name. With 4 nameless characters running around in a 3d world full of voices, there would be public outcry.
That scratches 1 off the list of console remake ideas.

Well the could remake and make you read...

Wait that wouldn't work with kids these gen, so nevermind.. LO got bad reviewers for having turn base and having lots of text.. Kind of sad, I don't like they way gaming is headed.

[Zoidberg!]

Originally Posted by bamak93

FFX was confusing enough without them speaking Tidus' name. With 4 nameless characters running around in a 3d world full of voices, there would be public outcry.
That scratches 1 off the list of console remake ideas.

Yeah, FF1 was fun. But, here, I have an idea if it got a remake.

At the beginning of the game, the characters all already have names. One is female. You chose which classes they have for the entire game. This gives a chance for a bit of character development.

Kawaiikousuke, I completely agree.

Originally Posted by Koji

Since FFVII has gotta be the most popular FF, its most likely to get a remake. If you made a game that has millions of fans, and a game that had less than half the fans of the other, would you spend $5 million on a remake for the one that lots of people want to see or the one that few people want to see? I agree that is doesnt seem fair from certain perspectives, but FF1-6 all had a remake. FF7 is waiting patiently next in line.

FFIV is still my favorite. Nothing is going to change it.

What I mean by remakes are full, 3D remakes. Just like FFIII for the DS. I know that IV is getting one. That is great. I just wish that I had some way to play it.

Anyway, you can't always get what you want, I guess.

[bamak93]

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

Well the could remake and make you read...

Wait that wouldn't work with kids these gen, so nevermind.. LO got bad reviewers for having turn base and having lots of text.. Kind of sad, I don't like they way gaming is headed.

The majority, not all. Personally, I like having to read. And turn based battles.

What some kids don't realize is that turn based gives you an edge because you can implement strategies instead of button mash.

Anyway, you can't always get what you want, I guess.

but if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

[Donnie Yen]

On another note, a sequel with Genesis as the villain I dont think will happen. Genesis is basically a good guy now.

in the Secret Ending of the game, Genesis is shown to be still alive and reclaims Weiss's lifeless body, proclaiming that their work is not done. However, in the Crisis Core Ultimania as Nomura explained, it now seems more likely that he's appearing to protect the Planet, not take revenge on it, as some players may have originally thought

Genesis Rhapsodos - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research

I actually dont see any other sequel. If anything, it'll probably be some more pre-FFVII events, or sidestories.

[Krateroi]

Genesis is a good guy now, i think Sephiroth will be the main villain I again

[bamak93]

Originally Posted by Donnie Yen

I actually dont see any other sequel. If anything, it'll probably be some more pre-FFVII events, or sidestories.

Maybe the villain is [spoiler]Jenova and your party is made up of Ancients! 0.o[/spoiler]

[Koji]

Originally Posted by Kawaiikousuke

This idea of playing it safe is what I hate about S-E nowadays. They won't take risks or market new games that aren't sequels or part of some other popular game, it sad to me. If they remade the other games and actually put forth effort to get it to the public and hype the shit like they do with VII then I see no reason why it couldn't work. With all these stuck up f***ers who refuse to play a FF that isn't in 3D or has voice acting giving them a remake would be good for their s***ty pathetic minds. They may not deserve it but I feel it would help IMHO. Also I think the games would do fine as remakes none the less.

I think maybe you shouldnt take it too personally. Really, I didnt mean to tick you off or anything. Its just that now that the current generation of gamers is Square's target market, so they develop games that would please them. That is having lots of cutscenes, cutting edge graphics, and high channel sound. Sure things have changed but I just figure that they're taking reading, games that seemed like a book, and turning them into films which is high demand nowadays. I look at it like this, if Square is doing so well, then they're obviously doing something right.

Originally Posted by SuperEclipse

I don't like they way gaming is headed.

Yes, neither do I. But the gaming industry has changed since we were kids. What we remembered as games are now old school games, making people who love those games "old school gamers." Since developers care less about us now, and focus on the new kids, we land up with a choice. 1) Accept the new changes in the industry and continue to play new games or 2) Quit playing video games.

I chose number 1, to go with the flow. I help out new gamers by recommending games that are popular among them. If I were to tell someone to play my fav FF, FFVII, they'd probably look at me like "Wasnt that game developed by dinosaurs?"

Originally Posted by bamak93

What some kids don't realize is that turn based gives you an edge because you can implement strategies instead of button mash.

I'm personally fine with the way the gameplay of todays games are but I guess I never really liked strategic games to begin with. Final Fantasy was the only strategic series I liked.

[Kawaiikousuke]

Originally Posted by Koji

I think maybe you shouldnt take it too personally. Really, I didnt mean to tick you off or anything. Its just that now that the current generation of gamers is Square's target market, so they develop games that would please them. That is having lots of cutscenes, cutting edge graphics, and high channel sound. Sure things have changed but I just figure that they're taking reading, games that seemed like a book, and turning them into films which is high demand nowadays. I look at it like this, if Square is doing so well, then they're obviously doing something right.

You didn't make me mad, sometimes I just type the way I talk on accident.

Anyways S-E isn't really doing well all it's doing is lowering it standards to please people who have no standards. All these movies coming out are just bad versions of old favorites, sure a few are good but when the line up of movies is just fantasy books, old cartoons and big budget shit you have to think that something is wrong.

Yes, neither do I. But the gaming industry has changed since we were kids. What we remembered as games are now old school games, making people who love those games "old school gamers." Since developers care less about us now, and focus on the new kids, we land up with a choice. 1) Accept the new changes in the industry and continue to play new games or 2) Quit playing video games.

There is a third option my friend, play the games that aren't just a shitload of of eyecandy and no substance. I'm still going to play games and I do have moments when the fanboy in me comes out (Crisis Core) but I personally just don't like to shut up and take it is all.

[Koji]

Originally Posted by Kawaiikousuke

There is a third option my friend, play the games that aren't just a shitload of of eyecandy and no substance.

You and I both know that those kind of games are dying. They're few, and getting fewer. That third option is virtually the same as the second option, except it will just play out gradually. Eventually only modern styled games will exist. What to do then?

Originally Posted by Kawaiikousuke

Anyways S-E isn't really doing well all it's doing is lowering it standards to please people who have no standards.

These people who you say have no standards are Square's target market. Not that Square hates everyone else, its just that umm...these guys and gals going to last longer than us.

It does make things alot easier for S-E (or virtually any gaming company) but I wouldnt say that their customers have no standards. I like games that meet a certain criteria, and happen to dislike alot of games too (even ones with great graphics). If an FF7 remake were to release, I'd probably get it, but I would only say that I like it once I've seen that it meets up to my standards. A new compilation title is something I am anticipating, and if its anything like Crisis Core (which exceeded my expectations of a PSP game) then I will continue to support it. Natuarally, if it sucks, I will say so, but I wont lose interesting in titles of the same franchise/console/genre/developer.

So far, not a single FF7 compilation disappointed me from the ones that I've played/watched. Those are Advent Children, Last Order, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, and the Novel. I havent played BC or DC: LE so I cant judge those games. But from the way things are going, I'm guessing that when the new compilation game releases, I would probably like it. But I cant know or sure until it releases.

[Tragic Fall]

Originally Posted by Zoidberg!

Once again, complete ignorance for the originals. Really, go get yourself laid... with the original FFs.

I have I,II,III, and V. They're all very fun and entertaining...but voice actors and improvred graphics would ruin them.