thoughts after beating the game(spoilers)

[phaedo]

I just finished the game and I have to say, while I loved it and I can't believe how much of KH/KH2 levels they fit onto the DS and that they looked as close as they did, was just great. I was a little disappointed that the story took so long to get going. while the stuff throughout the game was interesting I couldn't help but feel like the focus was the gameplay not the story, until you got closer to the end. it's nitpicky but I think I felt less for xion and roxas and axel at the end because while we spent a lot of time with them in the game, it was mostly bashing stuff with the keyblade. still great, just wish there was more meat throughout.

I did think it was lame that after the organization made roxas and xion think they were fighting a heartless when they were really fighting each other and then axel stops them then they all go back to the organziation and go on with new missions the next day.(run on sentence) it's like they tried to kill roxas and then meh, they all go back to work like nothing happened?

and after xenmas picks up xion after axel brings her back the second time...she then gets to leave on her own again? and delivers herself to roxas so that he would "free her"? I mean I get it xenmas sent her to kill roxas, but still and still axel says don'tleave? uh dude, they just tried to kill me a couple of times now and YOU KNOW IT.

those things urked me. but still amazing game. though since they could do rain effects and the dual keyblade thign? why do it on one board only? that's just odd. everyone wants it, why keep it in mission mode only? and why no new game plus? since the missions can be played by the menu, why not just let us play the frickin story mode with it. just strange to me is all

Also, I wasn't really interested yet in birth by sleep until the roxas lookalike(ven?) appeared and one of the org guys knew him. THAT WAS COOL.

[terra99032]

Well, i didn't really finish it, but my friend told me about how he finished it. he said that it sucked and that kh2 was better. i think he only said this because he only likes games with good graphics, (well, better than games on DS). i imediately hung up on him.

hopefully i find the game good when i buy and play it

damn it, i was given 100 bucks for my trip a few months ago. (my mum had given me 50 and my uncle had given me 50). if only i had been patient.

[MangaCrazy101]

Ive finished kh 2... I CRIED! but It was soooooooo stupid kaiz and sora didnt kiss!!!! WTF!? But sorz got glomped! AND THEY LEFT US HANGING! >:O

I nea finished number one cant finish the last boss >:O

[Smile]

Originally Posted by phaedo

I did think it was lame that after the organization made roxas and xion think they were fighting a heartless when they were really fighting each other and then axel stops them then they all go back to the organziation and go on with new missions the next day.(run on sentence) it's like they tried to kill roxas and then meh, they all go back to work like nothing happened?

Where else would they have gone to? The Org would've hunted them down and just brought them back. Working from inside was safer, especially if Saix knew Axel was looking out for them.

and after xenmas picks up xion after axel brings her back the second time...she then gets to leave on her own again? and delivers herself to roxas so that he would "free her"? I mean I get it xenmas sent her to kill roxas, but still and still axel says don'tleave? uh dude, they just tried to kill me a couple of times now and YOU KNOW IT.

Xion didn't want to be around anymore because her existence was hurting Roxas, simply by her existing. So when Xemnas sent her to absorb Roxas, getting him to absorb her by forcing him to fight her was the best if not the only option she had.
And Axel didn't want her to leave, he more didn't want her to leave and be fused back into Sora because she'll disappear then.

though since they could do rain effects and the dual keyblade thign? why do it on one board only? that's just odd. everyone wants it, why keep it in mission mode only?

The PLOT? Roxas wasn't able of Duel Wielding until after he absorbed Xion, and between that and KH2 there was only the Riku fight.

and why no new game plus? since the missions can be played by the menu, why not just let us play the frickin story mode with it. just strange to me is all

Because the "upgrades" given to you were Days dependant. Once you reached Day 96 you reach this and that level. Once you reach there, this and that level. Working around it would've taken up too much space, I'd imagine.

[phaedo]

Originally Posted by Smile

Where else would they have gone to? The Org would've hunted them down and just brought them back. Working from inside was safer, especially if Saix knew Axel was looking out for them.

the org was trying kill him while he was a part of it too. if they try to kill you when you are there and they try to kill you if you leave, seems like a good idea to leave. of course that's what he does eventually, but still it was a little weird.

Originally Posted by Smile

Xion didn't want to be around anymore because her existence was hurting Roxas, simply by her existing. So when Xemnas sent her to absorb Roxas, getting him to absorb her by forcing him to fight her was the best if not the only option she had.
And Axel didn't want her to leave, he more didn't want her to leave and be fused back into Sora because she'll disappear then.

I just think they didn't clearly show that xenmas sent her to finish roxas off. again she had been on the run. axel brings him back. xenmas does...what? and then sends her out again(why wouldn't she run since she just had). basically xenmas makes a huuuge error and thinks the replica who had run away again and again would now do his bidding all of a sudden? and of course she does what she wanted which was become free to return the power to roxas and therefore sora. Very very weak.

Originally Posted by Smile

The PLOT? Roxas wasn't able of Duel Wielding until after he absorbed Xion, and between that and KH2 there was only the Riku fight.

what line of dialogue indicated he couldn't do that? or what scene? I think it's a logical assumption but not one supported by anything seen in the games up to this point. I actually like the idea. but again, it's something the player realy enjoys already, and there really was nothing in the game or KH1 or 2 to say it can't happen.

Originally Posted by Smile

Because the "upgrades" given to you were Days dependant. Once you reached Day 96 you reach this and that level. Once you reach there, this and that level. Working around it would've taken up too much space, I'd imagine.

very few were days dependant and tons of games with new game + are able to work around that by not giving those upgrades until your supposed to have them, but letting you have everything else. good example is final fantasy VII: crisis core. You have a new game plus option and certain story upgrade are not there until you get them, like the better sword and better armor for example.

anyway, I don't think the game is bad, I loved it. I'll play it again in a few months or next year. I'm just saying there were some weak points, and it was a little disappointing.

[Smile]

Originally Posted by phaedo

the org was trying kill him while he was a part of it too. if they try to kill you when you are there and they try to kill you if you leave, seems like a good idea to leave. of course that's what he does eventually, but still it was a little weird.

Then how about not giving them any more reasons to kill them, if they're already willing.

I just think they didn't clearly show that xenmas sent her to finish roxas off.

Axel: *drags a beat up Xion back to TWTNW*
Xemnas: *drags Xion off*
Xion: *looks like Sora and wants to kill Roxas*
I think we can see it nicely even without the Ultimania. They didn't try to hide Xemnas had to do with the final battle.

basically xenmas makes a huuuge error and thinks the replica who had run away again and again would now do his bidding all of a sudden?

He gave her a new Body, going by the Ultimania. Some like to think a sort of reprogramming that never really worked out all the way had to do with it.
I think he told her to go eat Roxas up, and Xion decided to go along with it because she wanted to disappear.
Xemnas doesn't really care which of the two he has at the end of the day so long as he has one.

and of course she does what she wanted which was become free to return the power to roxas and therefore sora. Very very weak.

How is that weak? o.O

what line of dialogue indicated he couldn't do that? or what scene? I think it's a logical assumption but not one supported by anything seen in the games up to this point. I actually like the idea. but again, it's something the player realy enjoys already, and there really was nothing in the game or KH1 or 2 to say it can't happen.

How about the fact he never did anything of that sort until after he absorbed Xion? >_>; they didn't do it just to be cool and all.
To put your doubts to rest, however :

Originally Posted by Days Ultimania

-- In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion’s?

Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas.

The reason Roxas can Duel Wield is that he absorbed Xion, and it triggered something inside him, letting him have "his own" Keyblade along with whatever he took from Sora at birth.

very few were days dependant and tons of games with new game + are able to work around that by not giving those upgrades until your supposed to have them, but letting you have everything else. good example is final fantasy VII: crisis core. You have a new game plus option and certain story upgrade are not there until you get them, like the better sword and better armor for example.

All I can say is they probably didn't have the space needed to program it in XD; they already shoved enough into this game.

anyway, I don't think the game is bad, I loved it. I'll play it again in a few months or next year. I'm just saying there were some weak points, and it was a little disappointing.

I'm replaying it now XD stupid conspiracy theory. Stop making sense.

[Ikkin]

Originally Posted by phaedo

I just think they didn't clearly show that xenmas sent her to finish roxas off. again she had been on the run. axel brings him back. xenmas does...what? and then sends her out again(why wouldn't she run since she just had). basically xenmas makes a huuuge error and thinks the replica who had run away again and again would now do his bidding all of a sudden? and of course she does what she wanted which was become free to return the power to roxas and therefore sora. Very very weak.

I think Xemnas was just assuming that Xion had no real options that didn't involve him getting what he wanted. Xion was draining away more and more power from Roxas just by existing, at that point - so, the only way she could avoid killing Roxas was to let Roxas kill her. Either way, there'll only be one left standing.

And Xemnas didn't care if Xion actually did win, then willingly returned to Sora, either. He just needs a Keybearer to chuck Heartless at.

[Healing Vision]

Xion was the esque of sync-blade.
Once copying roxas' keyblade ability it only made sense having defeated her would he be able to dual-wield. He is Sora's nobody, and considering his ability to wield the keyblade to its most complete sense was then divided between Roxas and Xion, it meant Sora could dual-wield this entire time. Only after acquiring sync blade from Xion could Roxas be enable the ability.

Smile's right, it was all about plot.

If you really want to make some comparisons, go all the way back to Deep Dive. Kairi appearing on the screen is now significant because as they were forgetting Xion, Sora was remembering Kairi. (Fuzzy screen, in pieces, slowly but surely) It was the instant Riku started to forget when flying past the screen did she appear. My thing is this, in the beta's (old trailers) Kingdom Key spawned in the pass, probably more or less as a fashion-statement/cosmetic touch just to baffle us more.

[Smile]

Originally Posted by Ikkin

And Xemnas didn't care if Xion actually did win, then willingly returned to Sora, either. He just needs a Keybearer to chuck Heartless at.

Hence why he didn't care that he had neither in KH2 - since Sora was up and about.

Originally Posted by Healing Vision

Xion was the esque of sync-blade.
Once copying roxas' keyblade ability it only made sense having defeated her would he be able to dual-wield.

Not really, seeing how Nomura said that what Roxas got was not Xion's Keyblade. Absorbing her woke the second Keyblade inside him. My money's riding on it being the Ven Memories she had that did it.

If you really want to make some comparisons, go all the way back to Deep Dive. Kairi appearing on the screen is now significant because as they were forgetting Xion, Sora was remembering Kairi. (Fuzzy screen, in pieces, slowly but surely)

Actually, going by KH2, Kairi was the thing he kind of had the hardest time remembering, in part because Xion ate those Memories up. Forgetting Xion didn't instantly mean the Memories of Kairi were being reconnected, though.

[AxelRoxasFan223]

My thoughts after beating the game...Well I felt actually really sad...hell I cried at Xion's death scene and when Roxas teared up after that. Even the Secret Reports were sad. Some moments were sad but happy, most of them for me being RAX scenes when they can be together. I loved Roxas even more, I loved Xion for a new character and I still love Axel. The gameplay was OK, the graphics..were horrible if you closed up on them but the animated cutscenes were as always great. I got to know Demyx more and I liked him even though I used to hate and I mean HATE him in KH2. The keyblade designs were..meh I liked the KH1 and 2 designs better. Overall it was great even if there are some things (mostly the graphics or gamplay xD) I didn't like