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Old July 7th, 2009, 02:35 AM   #136
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Aside from the fact that you might end up seeing the Bond of Flames, the Photon Debugger, the Diamond Dust, etc as (3-5)-of-a-kind weapons...
-shrugs- Not of much consequence to me.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 02:42 AM   #137
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Aside from the fact that you might end up seeing the Bond of Flames, the Photon Debugger, the Diamond Dust, etc as (3-5)-of-a-kind weapons...
Is that really that much different then it is now? As far as I know, there are only two measures in game, but people aren't really freaking out that they can't get one. Not to mention that there will be anywhere from 24-40 of these "unique" keyblades. Do we even have that many players who would take the time to compete and get them? I'd actually rather have the elemental flavored keyblades as something rare and powerful, so some of the more persistant players to have something that sets them apart.
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*lol Shock = 100% 9999 damage. More broken than Meta Knight in Brawl?

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Anyways, I'm not too sure about this new elemental Keyblade idea. As long as there's a way to keep the system balanced and Rae can do it, I don't see much of a problem ATM.
lol it's easy to balance out keyblades but you have to realize they right now are not balanced which is why you and everyone else whore them out =X
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Is that really that much different then it is now? As far as I know, there are only two measures in game, but people aren't really freaking out that they can't get one. Not to mention that there will be anywhere from 24-40 of these "unique" keyblades. Do we even have that many players who would take the time to compete and get them? I'd actually rather have the elemental flavored keyblades as something rare and powerful, so some of the more persistant players to have something that sets them apart.
I'm still not crazy about the idea of making keyblades that not everyone can have.

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lol it's easy to balance out keyblades but you have to realize they right now are not balanced which is why you and everyone else whore them out =X
They can mana charge and use good offensive sleights. That's why they are "overpowered"
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Where did the page involving "Shards" go?
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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:47 AM   #141
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I'm still not crazy about the idea of making keyblades that not everyone can have.


They can mana charge and use good offensive sleights. That's why they are "overpowered"
But Kai has a sorrowsbane that not everyone can have >_> or the flametongue that not everyone can have =X it's the same principle just boosting up the same element until they get a keyblade version if they so choose =X

And I seriously think making keyblades be more one type like between magic physical and balanced make it easier >_> personally. But that's just me. Then three wishes could never use the upper and the olympia could never use the mana charge but make a unique "strongest" weapon of that chapter able to do both in this case it would be the steeled visage. I guess if it's considered the best one to get.

This way you have magical based keyblades *if your not too keen on the keyblade unique thing which I don't understand why when we have elemental weapons out right now for ppl who worked hella hard in events. then make magical based keyblades that have a mana charge option and a enchant or some shit.

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Old July 7th, 2009, 05:07 AM   #142
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But Kai has a sorrowsbane that not everyone can have >_> or the flametongue that not everyone can have =X it's the same principle just boosting up the same element until they get a keyblade version if they so choose =X
No, it isn't the same principle. Not to me. Kingdom Hearts Site. People like Keyblades, myself included. Some may want to collect all of the keyblades or be able to use them all, so making one type (especially KH1/2 themed) blades unattainable is not something I would want to do.

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And I seriously think making keyblades be more one type like between magic physical and balanced make it easier >_> personally. But that's just me. Then three wishes could never use the upper and the olympia could never use the mana charge but make a unique "strongest" weapon of that chapter able to do both in this case it would be the steeled visage. I guess if it's considered the best one to get.
It doesn't make it easier. Keyblades are a balanced weapon type. They are supposed to do exactly what they do.

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This way you have magical based keyblades *if your not too keen on the keyblade unique thing which I don't understand why when we have elemental weapons out right now for ppl who worked hella hard in events. then make magical based keyblades that have a mana charge option and a enchant or some shit.
Sometimes I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Basically you want to see a special item class just for magical keyblades, one for physical keyblades, and one for both? Just to differentiate sleights? That's really a pain in the ass for little to no difference. If that was to happen why not just put keyblades in shops since then they're exactly the same as swords and rods and shit.

The elemental weapons aren't for hard workers. It's simply a way to get them out into the Inferno. I know they'll eventually be traded around, stuck on accounts where people will just not play anymore and other things. They're just supposed to be rare weapons, but they're regular types of that weapon. Keyblades aren't regular weapons.
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Keyblades as of right now are 'overpowered' but as mentioned, that's only because of them being able to use Mana Charge and Key/ Upper Slash. I'm fairly sure Rae has something in the works that will make people use other weapon types efficiently and make people want ot use them. Look at throwns as of right now. They can do great damage but cant get MP back. Once Aspil comes in chapter 2, they will be extremely useful.
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Keyblades as of right now are 'overpowered' but as mentioned, that's only because of them being able to use Mana Charge and Key/ Upper Slash. I'm fairly sure Rae has something in the works that will make people use other weapon types efficiently and make people want ot use them. Look at throwns as of right now. They can do great damage but cant get MP back. Once Aspil comes in chapter 2, they will be extremely useful.
Well think of it this way - Every player will be able to regain mana for "free" next chapter. Keyblades are versitile. If i cut out the versatility, why make it any different than a shortsword? o.O. All I have to do is put in more physical sleights that keyblades don't get. Pretty simple. All I have to do is having magickal weaponry upgrade Mana Charge before keyblades do. Simple. It's really not that complicated to balance it. Yeah, they're "overpowered" but that's life at the moment. It isn't gonna stay that way. At least I don't think it will.
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No, it isn't the same principle. Not to me. Kingdom Hearts Site. People like Keyblades, myself included. Some may want to collect all of the keyblades or be able to use them all, so making one type (especially KH1/2 themed) blades unattainable is not something I would want to do.

It doesn't make it easier. Keyblades are a balanced weapon type. They are supposed to do exactly what they do.

Sometimes I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Basically you want to see a special item class just for magical keyblades, one for physical keyblades, and one for both? Just to differentiate sleights? That's really a pain in the ass for little to no difference. If that was to happen why not just put keyblades in shops since then they're exactly the same as swords and rods and shit.

The elemental weapons aren't for hard workers. It's simply a way to get them out into the Inferno. I know they'll eventually be traded around, stuck on accounts where people will just not play anymore and other things. They're just supposed to be rare weapons, but they're regular types of that weapon. Keyblades aren't regular weapons.
The elemental weapons are still not going to be available for all. =X I'm going off the fact that I keep hearing from you and others they are too "overpower unbalanced and blah blah blah." Personally I think keyblades in a KH site should mean big awesomeness and shit. But if not then why the gripe over their overpweredness? I've said many times they take a shit load of efforts to get essences especially with the small argument in DJ about the arts and how not all players can have the munny to buy them and all that other bullshit. Which is why I fail to see why ppl complain about Keyblades being the one you should use most of the time considering they take so long to farm for I like them being this way but everyone else is always blah blah blah this suggestion was if you didn't want Keyblades to be dominate in this way.

and what not and shits Which is they should be more useful then the other weapon types. But if all the weapons should be about the same in usefulness then they shouldn't be versatile that's only if. Otherwise they should stay as they are and I honestly like them this way. Still hate them for PvP purposes but that's another subject.

And bleh ewwwww. Why the hell would I work for something like an elemental weapon if it's not versatile and not as good as a keyblade just to be given out? Some special Keyblades would have more meaning. I'd like special weapons to be special for a reason which is why I would want special keyblades for constant gathering of elemental weapons. I have no intentions of having anything other than light the whole way why would I want a spear? especially if I can choose? If I am not getting a better version of my sword then I want a keyblade you know? and it'd be kinda dumb if someone completed 8 events and got all 8 weapons and knows there is no upgrade to their sprites or their stats afterthe 9th event :/ what would be the point of getting more?

And that's the reason why I would want it to be a keyblade because of the fact keyblades are special and not normal keyblades. And there are already keyblades we are probably not getting that enemies or bosses *cough* have already.

whatever. keyblades = better than regular weapon types imo. custom made keyblades that other ppl could get ehhh w/e this isn't going to go anywhere.
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The elemental weapons are still not going to be available for all. =X I'm going off the fact that I keep hearing from you and others they are too "overpower unbalanced and blah blah blah."
They aren't overpowered. They aren't meant to be overpowered. They are different than throwns and can unleash. In PvP fights sanctioned by the Inferno team we like having people on even ground as much as possible.

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Personally I think keyblades in a KH site should mean big awesomeness and shit. But if not then why the gripe over their overpweredness? I've said many times they take a shit load of efforts to get essences especially with the small argument in DJ about the arts and how not all players can have the munny to buy them and all that other bullshit. Which is why I fail to see why ppl complain about Keyblades being the one you should use most of the time considering they take so long to farm for I like them being this way but everyone else is always blah blah blah this suggestion was if you didn't want Keyblades to be dominate in this way.
you speak crazyness.

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and what not and shits Which is they should be more useful then the other weapon types. But if all the weapons should be about the same in usefulness then they shouldn't be versatile that's only if. Otherwise they should stay as they are and I honestly like them this way. Still hate them for PvP purposes but that's another subject.
Keyblades? Their whole thing is versatility. Again, this is pretty simple to even out, as I've outlined before.

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And bleh ewwwww. Why the hell would I work for something like an elemental weapon if it's not versatile and not as good as a keyblade just to be given out?
You don't have to work for it. They're rewards for winning events (for now). They're rare, three of a kind, and they're special. It doesn't mean they are as good as a keyblade, but an augmented Bow is CLEARLY superior to an unaugmented bow. True or false? You can't compare apples and oranges.

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Some special Keyblades would have more meaning. I'd like special weapons to be special for a reason which is why I would want special keyblades for constant gathering of elemental weapons. I have no intentions of having anything other than light the whole way why would I want a spear?
Because it's a light spear?

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especially if I can choose? If I am not getting a better version of my sword then I want a keyblade you know? and it'd be kinda dumb if someone completed 8 events and got all 8 weapons and knows there is no upgrade to their sprites or their stats afterthe 9th event :/ what would be the point of getting more?
What would be the point of upgrading weaponry that only a few posess? As the weapons are now, NOT being overpowered, you HAVE a choice to NOT use them in favor of something ELSE that fits your strategy. This does NOT make them useless and shitty, it simply leaves them as TROPHIES in your inventory you can actually omgnowai SELL to other people if you don't want them because I'm sure many people would gladly take your sword off of your hands and be twice as grateful for it.

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And that's the reason why I would want it to be a keyblade because of the fact keyblades are special and not normal keyblades
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And there are already keyblades we are probably not getting that enemies or bosses *cough* have already.
Yeah, because that's a Mod weapon. D/Rae/Sham all have their own keyblades, as they're all [more or less] Knights. You can't have those because 1. They're mod weapons and not supposed to be attainable by regular players and 2. they're too cool for you.

But in all seriousness if the keyblade you're talking about was a knightsword then you wouldn't even bring this arguement up.

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whatever. keyblades = better than regular weapon types imo. custom made keyblades that other ppl could get ehhh w/e this isn't going to go anywhere.
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indeed. :3

Keyblades could be the worst weapon type and people would still be running around waving them anyway. The fact that they're actually pretty darn decent if not overpowered for chapter 1 isn't a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.
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They aren't overpowered. They aren't meant to be overpowered. They are different than throwns and can unleash. In PvP fights sanctioned by the Inferno team we like having people on even ground as much as possible.
*shrugs* just what I kept hearing


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Keyblades? Their whole thing is versatility. Again, this is pretty simple to even out, as I've outlined before.
I got that ._. And like I said I likes them to be that way :3

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You don't have to work for it. They're rewards for winning events (for now). They're rare, three of a kind, and they're special. It doesn't mean they are as good as a keyblade, but an augmented Bow is CLEARLY superior to an unaugmented bow. True or false? You can't compare apples and oranges.
Can't argue with this 1 even if I wanted too =X

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Because it's a light spear?
You wouldn't dare ;_; would you ;______;

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What would be the point of upgrading weaponry that only a few posess? As the weapons are now, NOT being overpowered, you HAVE a choice to NOT use them in favor of something ELSE that fits your strategy. This does NOT make them useless and shitty, it simply leaves them as TROPHIES in your inventory you can actually omgnowai SELL to other people if you don't want them because I'm sure many people would gladly take your sword off of your hands and be twice as grateful for it.
This would only be if they had like everything ._. or if they kept wanting a light weapon I am JUST assuming that your going to give out the same stuff for the same elements like the 2 sorrowsbane you know just options for ppl who just want to stick with one element with. =X But then you said light spear Just would want something for someone who "has" a choice and doesn't want the other elements that's why I said an upgrade to me it'd and a pain to get the same thing or to have a chap 1 light weapon compared to a chap 3 you know? I wouldn't use the 1 anymore that's why I said upgrade ._. but meh.

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._.? Lol this was pertaining to the Keyblade subject thingy =X Just mainly because the minute the elemental keyblades come out there'd be no point for elemental weapons especially when the photon debugger with it's thunder it's just kinda ehh do I want my thunder gun? but that's just me others probably would feel different =X

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Yeah, because that's a Mod weapon. D/Rae/Sham all have their own keyblades, as they're all [more or less] Knights. You can't have those because 1. They're mod weapons and not supposed to be attainable by regular players and 2. they're too cool for you.
I was just being silly XP

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But in all seriousness if the keyblade you're talking about was a knightsword then you wouldn't even bring this arguement up.
I don't understand a single thing your saying ._.?

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Hey it's a wishlist and you program the game in your opinion so boooooooooo ;___; making me cry 2 times in 1 thread *Lucy Ricardo cry* WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Keyblades could be the worst weapon type and people would still be running around waving them anyway. The fact that they're actually pretty darn decent if not overpowered for chapter 1 isn't a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.
I endorse this message and at the same time I disagree. a lot of ppl only use the ones that work best for things which is the keyblade but I agree. Honestly I really like Keyblades better then most weapons in general, which is why I think they should be prizes =X they're just cool to me that way. This is a KH site Keyblades having to work harder then hell to get the essences and blah should have that bit of edge to them ._. But I saw your point awhile ago ._. just still ehhh elemental weapons will be more like the trophies your talking about when if keyblades get enchants on them.

Oh well if they don't get enchants =X then ones that are enchanted could be pretty awesome as prizes o_O
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This would only be if they had like everything ._. or if they kept wanting a light weapon I am JUST assuming that your going to give out the same stuff for the same elements like the 2 sorrowsbane you know just options for ppl who just want to stick with one element with. =X But then you said light spear Just would want something for someone who "has" a choice and doesn't want the other elements that's why I said an upgrade to me it'd and a pain to get the same thing or to have a chap 1 light weapon compared to a chap 3 you know? I wouldn't use the 1 anymore that's why I said upgrade ._. but meh.
Eh, the current ones are getting upgraded to Ch. 2 strength when Ch. 2 comes out. O.o We'd probably see NEW ones in ch. 3... maybe 4 if Rae wants to take a chapter off on them. New ones in ch 2 = nono.

By new, I'd assume we'd see new weapon types in each element. For example, maybe we'd see a Windy Katana next time and a Water Dagger. (Oh please no D:) *shrugs* I don't want the current ones to keep getting upgraded, really. I'd prefer to see new ones come out each time to keep things fresh. It would be boring if like... You get the Saintsword now in ch 1, then in ch 3 you win a new Saintsword with the same sprite and better mods...? Eh. Boring. It'd be cooler if you get Saintsword in ch 1 and then like... Saintspear in ch 3 or someshit. I'd be upset, though. *is Dark* D:

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Oh well if they don't get enchants =X then ones that are enchanted could be pretty awesome as prizes o_O
Or maybe he could enchant them as a prize! xD "OMG YOU WON! I'll enchant your Kingdom Key with aaaany elemental unleash you want~"
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Uh, I doubt they would choose Kingdom Key. More likely Visage/3-wishes/Olympia.
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Eh, the current ones are getting upgraded to Ch. 2 strength when Ch. 2 comes out. O.o We'd probably see NEW ones in ch. 3... maybe 4 if Rae wants to take a chapter off on them. New ones in ch 2 = nono.

By new, I'd assume we'd see new weapon types in each element. For example, maybe we'd see a Windy Katana next time and a Water Dagger. (Oh please no D:) *shrugs* I don't want the current ones to keep getting upgraded, really. I'd prefer to see new ones come out each time to keep things fresh. It would be boring if like... You get the Saintsword now in ch 1, then in ch 3 you win a new Saintsword with the same sprite and better mods...? Eh. Boring. It'd be cooler if you get Saintsword in ch 1 and then like... Saintspear in ch 3 or someshit. I'd be upset, though. *is Dark* D:



Or maybe he could enchant them as a prize! xD "OMG YOU WON! I'll enchant your Kingdom Key with aaaany elemental unleash you want~"
Upgraded sprites and mods but I see your point Iggy. And I like that idea of enchanting a certain keyblade as a reward o.o that'd make me happy o-o.
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