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[SeaSalt IceCream]

Here is just my personal opinion. and you can take it however you please. I belive you should have a certain bit of experiance and skill before you start making sigs for others. if i were you i wouldnt have opend a shop at your current level of skill. sorry but your not even rookie level in my eyes. everything i see here i do not like it makes my eyes hurt becasue theres no sort of flow or anything. sigs are way to big size i mean.

Excuse me? I do not believe that I did ask for your opinion and I do not think it was right to post this on our thread when we are trying to start somthing that we ENJOY doing, giving us bad publicity is not very nice at all. And just because of you horrid remarks on out artwork does not mean that we are going to close up shop! Infact this makes me more determined to prove you wrong!

The point is SRR and myself do enjoy making a sig shop and our arkwork is UNIQUE! We have no fancy programs like Photoshop, we use plain old gimp, heck I'd even do it on PAINT if I wasn't allowed to download stuff. If you think our art burns your eyes fair enough but this wont stop us! We have different techniques and that's our right, we have had comments saying we're good at it so we did it, cause it's somthing we love, you have no right to take somone's joy like that and smash it. 1 think all the sigs we see made by what people call "Professionals" look VERY SAME-ISH, We offer differnt-looking sigs all the time and we're proud. So if you have a problem with diversity, I think you are the one with the problem. Art is open for interpretation I mean someone shoves a pile of garbage and arranges it together some would call it art. Just cause you don't like it you don't go up to a person and say it's trash. Being a premium member people respect you, so they would take your opinion over mine, so this is why I would rather perfer you had sent a PM to us saying you did not like our work. It's unfair to us if you wish to crush our dreams like that! You ahve no right, and guess what, You aint!

once again i say this is just my personal opinion and i dont mean any harm i j ust dont want bad art just flying around khi but hey your still gonna keep the shop open regardless. all im saying is wait till you get better to make sigs for others.

Your right, we will keep our shop open regardless, cause believe it or not, we are normally very nice and cooperative people, and we enjoy what we do. And shock horror, me and SRR actually have recieved PMs requesting sigs so he and I put our heads together and created this shop.

You say you don't want bad art, flying around, and yet you say you mean no harm how did you not think this would offend us, you say our creations suck, yet you expect us not to take that to offence, Im sorry but we are only human and that DOES offend us, hence the nasty come back letter I'm writing. I mean anyone who knows me knows Im not a nasty person, but I will not stand for such rudness towards me and SRR's work! If you consider our art "Bad" and you don't want to see it fine, just close you eyes!!!

Im sick of sigs that look the same! All the ones made by you so called "good" artists are boring and I just seem to skim over it, I mean ours is unique and different, just cause you may have a problem with change doesn't mean we will come over to the dark-side! If all artists are as rude to new comers as you were than I'd hate to be one!

but im sure yur going to get all pissy at me and try to tell me off as im sure you will.

Too right we are, infact your rude comments are not apreciated.

Now no we are not waiting till we get better because we make do with the best stuff we have, I no certainly I can't afford a program for sig creating that costs over 100 dollars, not in my budget, are you saying that only people who come from wealthy families can make sigs? I think not.

So please, keep your remarks to yourself, my mother told me "If you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all" Now please so not mis-understand me, I do argee with you, everyone is allowed an opinion especially, on KHI I get that, and I have my own and so do you. But I do say I don't think KHI welcomes people who like destroying people's dreams and passions!

Sincerly
~Xelhes~

I believe there was nothing really sincere about ur post at all, don't say stuff you don't mean

U may be 19 and an adult but you're surely not acting like one crushing dreams of those younger than you. What do you go and tell little Kids Santa's not real? Kingdom Hearts is a some what fun and immature type game, if you like it you should have some sense of idea of the meaning of fun, our creations are fun and creative, and that's what art is! If you make everything serrious the same and boring, it's no longer art any more, it's a copy!

Mod's if you're reading this and don't aprove, please tell me. I don't feel I've done anything wrong standing up for myself but please if you do think I've done the wrong thing fair enough I will edit my post.

[Endless Reason]

Damn straight! Stick it to em! Im sickof having to hear things like this about ours works too, and if your going to take anything out on us, take it out on me! My idea for the sig shop, me who made the first sig and avatar, so don't have a go at both of us, ok? SeaSalt doesn't deserve this, she was the one who inspired me to do this! So like she said, either say it to us via PM, or keep it to yourself!

[SeaSalt IceCream]

Damn straight! Stick it to em! Im sickof having to hear things like this about ours works too, and if your going to take anything out on us, take it out on me! My idea for the sig shop, me who made the first sig and avatar, so don't have a go at both of us, ok? SeaSalt doesn't deserve this, she was the one who inspired me to do this! So like she said, either say it to us via PM, or keep it to yourself!

No SRR we're a team, we take the heat together, besides you have nothing to be ashmaed of making unique and individual sigs! I have nothing to be ashamed of and neither do you. So I refuse to let you take blame for doing nothing wrong!

Enough ugly thoughts, Please dont think of us as bad sig makers and that we can't take critism, just there are wrong ways and right ways to do this, I really do hope these comments wont turn you away from asking us to make you somthing, cause we're just as determined to make you somthing we want you to love despite bad publicity.

[M.o.N]

guys,did i say something offensive to you?

[Endless Reason]

mon:what made you say that mate?
SSIC: Exactly, we are up to it, we want to take on the sig making business, so be it if people don't like them, but the people that do will be our customers more than likely, and if something is appreciated, we'd be happy

[M.o.N]

i appreciate the sig you made me and im on your side so,is there any way i can help?

[Endless Reason]

Nah, it's all good. We know your supporting us, thats the important bit]

[SeaSalt IceCream]

guys,did i say something offensive to you?

No, Why'd you say that? You're defending us and I thank you for it! We need as much support we can get I guess, but, Still I doubt that it'd stop us if we didn't get any, Well It wouldn't stop me, Im proud of what I do and I love doing it, so no one can take that away from me!

To Xelhes: If you wish to discuss this further, I would much rather you send me a PM about it. I don't partically want to spam here. Thanks,

Now people, Who's up for a Sig or avvie made aye?

[Endless Reason]

Yeah, lets get back to business! And Haku, u don't need to say anything, we've noticed you going in and out. Lets just leave it at this n move on pls

[M.o.N]

HURRAY FOR MR.SSR AND SEASALT!!good luck!!

[Elorah]

I agree in a way that if you have something that isn't exactly, pleasant to say, it would best be said via a PM or something less public than a post for all to see. Although, I do respect the opinions of people who prefer other people's sig work to SeaSalt's and SRR's. That is one of the many reasons why there is such a wide variety of sig shops to choose from. It gives a person the option of viewing many different ideas, and ultimately choosing their preference.

So, it is fair enough that you are not the biggest fan of my friend's work. However, you must remember that they are indeed, just starting off at this, and sig making is a hobby. It's not the best thing to crush their self-esteem and make them feel bad as artists. Besides, how are they going to improve in the future if they can't start off without being harshly criticised?

Ohh and by the way, I'm very happy with the sig you made me, SeaSalt ^_^

[SeaSalt IceCream]

Ohh and by the way, I'm very happy with the sig you made me, SeaSalt ^_^

You're most welcome! I guess there's really nothing left to be said then, we shall move on now and will!

HURRAY FOR MR.SSR AND SEASALT!!good luck!!

Thanks man!
*Does peace sign*
Peace out!

Hmm we do have supporters! XD

On with the requests if anyone's brave to ask after the harsh treatment, I am genuinly a nice person, really, I am. So please I would be over-joyed for you to give us a request now!

[Xidon]

Originally Posted by SeaSalt IceCream

The point is SRR and myself do enjoy making a sig shop and our arkwork is UNIQUE! We have no fancy programs like Photoshop, we use plain old gimp,

Now no we are not waiting till we get better because we make do with the best stuff we have, I no certainly I can't afford a program for sig creating that costs over 100 dollars, not in my budget, are you saying that only people who come from wealthy families can make sigs? I think not.

GIMP is not an excuse to suck, some people make great stuff using GIMP and could make a lot of PS users ashamed with their work.

Im sick of sigs that look the same! All the ones made by you so called "good" artists are boring and I just seem to skim over it, I mean ours is unique and different, just cause you may have a problem with change doesn't mean we will come over to the dark-side! If all artists are as rude to new comers as you were than I'd hate to be one!

By saying this you are generalizing the whole gfx community and making the artists look like mainstreamers. There are a lot of people out there that dedicate a their time trying to improve, be original and stand out and I am sure they would be offended by this kind of thinking.
If you have a problem with Xelhes you don't have to insult the whole gfx community and artists in general, so please don't.

Anyhow good luck with the shop and improving your skills.

[Endless Reason]

I thank you for the good luck, but the way you wrote the firsrt bit, are you implying that you think we suck? thats how it comes across

[Xidon]

Originally Posted by ShadowRikuRising

I thank you for the good luck, but the way you wrote the firsrt bit, are you implying that you think we suck? thats how it comes across

No, I am saying that you can't blame the program for your amount of skill, like Sir Schmoopy does for instance >.>