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Old 05-15-2008, 12:34 AM   #271
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Bible has some good stories, but is also full of shit.

Find me four hundred Christians that have read the entire Bible, verse by verse. And I mean your average, not senior citizen Christian, not the old retirees that want to make one last effort to get into heaven.
I have read the entire bible and I am only 16.I used to read it every morning with my grandmother as a child about 30-40 verses everyday before school.So there you have it.A young average Christian has in fact read the whole bible.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:46 AM   #272
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I have Russian friends who have read, and read the Bible verse by verse everyday.

The only problem i see is their strong hatred for gays. Sometimes they pull their heads out of their cars and yell "death to gays"


I told them that it was God's right to judge his ppl, not the ppl themselves, and one friend said they've already been judged.

I thought to myself.....why continue.

They have so much hatred for gays, yet they can eat a hot dog, pork consumation being as equal a sin to homosexuality
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:02 PM   #273
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Wwll....The bible does have a verse in it about Man and Woman.Homosexuality is a sin in my faith but I dont hate them.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:59 PM   #274
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^ yeah lets not turn this into a homo/heterosexual debate, but yes, the Bible does condemn homosexuality. BUT Bible principles clearly show that we are to show love for everyone. Not being partial as God is not partial. Like i've said before in other threads, there are "Christians" who dont exactly even follow the Bible, and there are those who dont even know whats written in it. They might take something they heard from one person, or just exploit and use one scripture to justify their wrong actions. Then there are those who do actually follow it correctly, but we cant judge anyone, thats up to God.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:36 PM   #275
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There's no need to be a perfect Christian, one simple repentance will get you through the pearly gates as much as being the Pope.

Flawed religion is flawed...
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:47 PM   #276
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My Views On Atheism .. If You Dont Belive You Don't If You Do Then You Do As For My Im agnostic So Im In the Middle ?
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:51 AM   #277
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Well I just believe in God and that he's all loving and ppl create their own problems

Religion to me is a whole nother nature
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:43 AM   #278
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There's no need to be a perfect Christian, one simple repentance will get you through the pearly gates as much as being the Pope.

Flawed religion is flawed...
Flawed, you ideas are flawed.... >.>

Of course you cant be a PERFECT Christian, because no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone is human. We all have the same general tendencies. However if you are going to be a Christian, it requires following Christ's examples as closely as possible.

One simple repentance?

The Bible clearly shows for anyone to inherit the benefits of God's Messianic Kingdom, they would have to not just do one simple repentance. Its a matter of repentance, total change in our ways, complete heartfelt sorrow over past wrongs, realizing why it is wrong and never practicing the wrong again. Not just stopping, but also replacing those wrong acts with doing the will of God. Etc. etc. etc.

And as for the "pearly gates" thing... where did that term come from? lol I should check that one out. Anyway, the Bible clearly shows and states that not all good people go to heaven. Just a select few. It even clearly stated that people who were considered righteous in God's eyes in the Bible did NOT go to heaven.

And as for the Pope..... Im no judge, and I shouldnt judge.... but... >.> lol........

You cant just say RELIGION is flawed.... HUMANS are flawed. WE ARE ALL FLAWED. Both religious and those who arent religious. Any religion that claims to be 100% accurate and infalliable is fooling itself. On the same hand, any atheist who claims to be 100% correct shouldnt, because we are all just humans who are all imperfect and still have very limited (as much as we do have) about the world and universe around us.

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Old 06-14-2008, 01:46 PM   #279
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I can understand why people are Athiests. I used to be one, many years ago. For me, personally, it was hard to even think about the prospect of some higher power that watched over us and cared for us when the world was in such a state. There are many unanswered questions on both the science and religion side, and I guess it's just easier for everyday people not to believe in God, or whatever, when it's easier to believe the facts and opinions presented to them by humans.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:00 AM   #280
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How is the state of the world proof against God? That's proof against a benevolent god, but not an indifferent or malignant god. Anybody who is an atheist with just this alone will revert back to being Christian because he didn't even think it through.

Also, the world says it's much easier to believe what dad and mom told me about God is right than it is to believe that we're eventually going to die for good, not the other way around. If you were right, atheists would be a majority.
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my views on atheism, the inabilaty to believe or the inabilaty to accept what you really believe. it actually makes more sense to me then other religions. christianity is personally the one that makes the least amout of sense to me, and i don't want anyone to think i'm religious bashing, but it's kind of funny to me that people worship a book that is less than 50% what it used to be due to religious leaders taking over and changing it to fit them and burning what it used to say. then again all old religions are funny to me, all that they do is believe what someone supposedly said a long time ago. so i guess atheism makes alot of sence to me compared to other religions
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My views on atheism are are positive. I'm an apathetic atheist meaning I don't don't believe or care whether god exists or not. The thing with religion in general for me, atheism included, is that it sometimes consumes people to the point of being creepy. I don't bash others who believe in god or gods, but sometimes I think atheism is a target for 'divine children' you could say. They have the prospect of supposedly going to heaven, while we have nothing but rotting in the earth. I could see how some people could take advantage of that and use it as a weapon. The main reason I became an atheist is because of church people randomly walking up to me saying "You know if you don' accept god your going to hell?" I thought "If I don't accept god, I don't accept hell and therefore I couldn't possible go to hell." Their logic is flawed but their just human so I keep my mouth shut and walk away. People believe what they want no matter how ridiculous it may seem to others.
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My views on atheism are are positive. I'm an apathetic atheist meaning I don't don't believe or care whether god exists or not. The thing with religion in general for me, atheism included, is that it sometimes consumes people to the point of being creepy. I don't bash others who believe in god or gods, but sometimes I think atheism is a target for 'divine children' you could say. They have the prospect of supposedly going to heaven, while we have nothing but rotting in the earth. I could see how some people could take advantage of that and use it as a weapon. The main reason I became an atheist is because of church people randomly walking up to me saying "You know if you don' accept god your going to hell?" I thought "If I don't accept god, I don't accept hell and therefore I couldn't possible go to hell." Their logic is flawed but their just human so I keep my mouth shut and walk away. People believe what they want no matter how ridiculous it may seem to others.

Is that such a good reason to become atheist though? :/ I mean... whoever it was that said that to you.... >.> they arent from the only religion on earth...

Are there other reasons you dont believe?

But then again you did say you dont care... >.> so... hmm yeah lol.... I guess thats that for my question eh? lol
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I think the reason for that would be, well apart from systems like Buddhism, the very fact that we're presented with a variety of religions to choose from inspires a sort of inherent suspicion within people.

Not believing is just another choice, one that most people have justified for themselves already. Though I suppose rather than calling it "not believing" it could be seen as "believing that it's false". Is there a difference between the two?

Nobody can prove the authenticity of a religion, apart from the spiritual/moral/etc. effects it has on its followers, which is the reason why everyone is entitled to believing what they want to believe.

Even the truly devoted were curious. Everybody is. They've just dedicated themselves to their beliefs, to put the question to rest. Doesn't necessarily mean they're right though. It's a self-assurance/coping mechanism. Like joking around in a serious situation.

People can be just as satisfied understanding this, compared to a devout Whatever. And others seek the truth through more practical means, such as sciences, where they go out there and try to find out for themselves.

Not all atheists are apathetic towards life. They just might not buy the whole deity thing. It's never really black and white.
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Not believing is just another choice, one that most people have justified for themselves already. Though I suppose rather than calling it "not believing" it could be seen as "believing that it's false". Is there a difference between the two?
Isn't there? If your friend tells you he ate 3 large pizzas is being skeptical the same thing as believing your friend is a liar?
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