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Old 12/02/07, 02:51 AM   #121
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Faith is believing in something you can't see what isn't tangible.

I mean for me i believe as long as you have faith in something you're straight. Like i've said before in this thread people who have grown up never knowing who god is shouldn't be condemned to hell just because they're ignorant to his exisitence.

By ignorance I mean not knowing, not stupid.

These different factions obviously come from the same core, those essentials have just been tainted by human hand as they've spread across the globe creating the factions we know today. Trying to force someone to believe in something and shunning them for not doing so is wrong no matter how you look at it, it's hypocritical to say the least when you're taught to be compassionate and understanding to the opinions and beliefs of those around you.
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Old 12/02/07, 08:58 AM   #122
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These different factions obviously come from the same core, those essentials have just been tainted by human hand as they've spread across the globe creating the factions we know today. Trying to force someone to believe in something and shunning them for not doing so is wrong no matter how you look at it, it's hypocritical to say the least when you're taught to be compassionate and understanding to the opinions and beliefs of those around you.
And yet you believe that you need to have faith in something to be an upstanding individual? Isn't that hypocritical as well?
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Old 12/02/07, 06:37 PM   #123
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like i said every religion/faith is in some way hypocritical :D

and if you think about it every faith even if they don't believe in God, atheist believe in scientific proof, hell perhaps even in themselves; that they have control over every aspect of their own lives.

And people who believe in other faiths round the world believe in something, it might not be god but it's something.

No one's perfect but i believe leaving a good life helps xDDDDD

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Old 12/02/07, 10:37 PM   #124
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and if you think about it every faith even if they don't believe in God, atheist believe in scientific proof, hell perhaps even in themselves; that they have control over every aspect of their own lives.
That's because there's faith, and there's Faith. They do not share the same meaning, and although they are similar, claiming them to be the same thing is like saying 2 different words mean the same thing without they being synonyms. There's "I trust my ability to read fast" faith and there's the "ignore proof that the world is round" faith.
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Old 12/02/07, 10:44 PM   #125
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yeah my example didn't work to well oh well.

But you know what I'm saying just about every faction of religion is hypocritical to some degree.

And though Atheist don't believe in god they believe and have faith in scientific proof.

you know what I'm saying right?
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Old 12/02/07, 10:48 PM   #126
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I think its their choice if they dont believe in somthing. that fine by me. I have nothin against them.

I belive in God, but i hardly ever go to church anymore.
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Old 12/02/07, 10:53 PM   #127
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And though Atheist don't believe in god they believe and have faith in scientific proof.
Again, this is "I trust what I'm seeing with my own 2 eyes" faith. The faith you speak is the believing in something regardless of proof, such as believing in a world flood regardless of the lack of evidence.
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Old 12/02/07, 11:01 PM   #128
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ah i get it now, thanks for clearing that up
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Old 12/02/07, 11:10 PM   #129
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My view on Atheism? Hmm well I'm ok with it. I respect their beliefs.

The only thing I find odd is they just try to disprove the Christian God and none of the other religion's Gods. But hey thats just what I think anyways.
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Old 12/02/07, 11:50 PM   #130
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In the Western world? Obviously because that is, by far, the dominant religion. If Islam were the dominant one in our area, we'd concentrate on the Qur'an, no?
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Old 12/03/07, 09:14 AM   #131
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My view on Atheism? Hmm well I'm ok with it. I respect their beliefs.

The only thing I find odd is they just try to disprove the Christian God and none of the other religion's Gods. But hey thats just what I think anyways.
Buddhists don't come knocking on my door.

Christianity is a dominant religion and an extremely forceful one in the case of some fundamentalists.
Never seen a Jew spout out "God hates fags".

It's a simple social thing, really. Whatever is the most outspoken, tends to be cut be down. Tall poppy syndrome.
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Old 12/03/07, 10:18 AM   #132
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Never seen a Jew spout out "God hates fags".
And this is why Raito is confused about religion.

Also, Hitler was a true Christian. He killed the Jews and didn't like gay people. What more proof do you need?
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Old 12/03/07, 07:27 PM   #133
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Also, Hitler was a true Christian. He killed the Jews and didn't like gay people. What more proof do you need?
Hitler has as much chance of being in Heaven as Charles Darwin does, he was in no sense a true Christian whatsoever...
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Old 12/03/07, 07:34 PM   #134
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Seriously, I always says this when it comes with these sorta things:
Their lives, let them be what they want
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Old 12/04/07, 02:34 AM   #135
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Atheists can very well accept the fact that people find solace in religion; that's why they could think them as idiots, because, from that pov, they are preferring solace to the search for truth.

That's if you want to define idiocy as that. I don't, I simply believe most people with religion have no interest whatsoever in facts and truth when the truth is ugly.

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Science and religion are both searches for truth. The difference is what the two are trying to find the truth about: religion asks why, science asks how.
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