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Old 11-07-2007, 05:45 PM   #16
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how was God created?
I dont think there is an answer to that. If God created us how could we know? It's not like he had tea parties with Adam and Eve or something....makes you wonder.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:32 PM   #17
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How exactly does it make you wonder?
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:52 PM   #18
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It makes perfect sense to be an Atheist. It's not like there's any proof of God's existence.

However, I'm not an Atheist.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:54 PM   #19
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I'm an Atheist so my view is it a good religon.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:19 PM   #20
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It makes perfect sense to be an Atheist. It's not like there's any proof of God's existence.

However, I'm not an Atheist.
Thank you. Exactly that, you can choose to believe whatever you like, but common sense points out to atheism because of the lack of proof.
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Thank you. Exactly that, you can choose to believe whatever you like, but common sense points out to atheism because of the lack of proof.
Lots of truth in this comment. Lots of it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:12 PM   #22
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I believe myself to be an atheist, merely because I would love to have a comfort like God, but that just sparks the thought in my mind that that's why he was created, to comfort and solve peoples problems. But I digress. My opinion on Atheism is the same as it is with all religions, if you believe in it, I have no right to try to change you, as no one should. In the time I spent with the Catholic Church I learned to realize that a lot of them are hell bent on trying to convert people, or that may just be on the east coast. If there is a God, I don't believe that you can teach who or what God is, which is another reason I refuse to go to church anymore. But please, no catholics take offense to my words. I am sorry if I offended you in any way.
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I'm agnostic personally.

And I'm not going to get into any anti religion stuff, (this includes atheism). This is really the smart (albeit lazy) path.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:47 AM   #24
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Atheism is anti-religious? That's like saying you're anti-muslim because you don't believe in Allah.
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You assume, right off the bat, that it needs an explanation. Scientifically, it does not.
Science orgasms over an explanation. How can science justify/support that no explanation is needed for the existence of anything??? In essence, how can one expect that no explanation should exist. "It is because it is...."????
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I have a question for all the religious people, how was God created? and dont say he has always been because something had to create him.
If God were created, no freakin' clue.
If He wasn't (which is the obvious choice for any religious believer), He always existed. Further, if God exists outside of the realm of time.... It's hard to apply our rules of logic of existence to Him. Creation, etc.... It's logically impossible. Especially since our logic is based on the perceptions of this reality.
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rr, Agnostic is not the belief of a supreme being in particular at al
Ah sorry. I just wrote supreme being without thinking... I meant to say "something out there."
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It makes perfect sense to be an Atheist. It's not like there's any proof of God's existence.
Again, the burden of proof. When it comes to such a statement as "God exists," it is completely subjective upon who to place the burden of proof. (i.e. atheists will say show me God exists, whilist theists will say prove He doesn't!). I realize, in most cases, existence of an object will be requested to be proven. However, in the case of God, an omnipotent being who does not even EXIST in the world in which we live, it is an absurd idea to request such proof.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:07 AM   #26
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Well, i'm an Atheist myself, but i want to know religious people's opinions and views on atheism.

As an atheist, i dont believe in any supreme being, and i follow science mostly, i usualy cant believe in something unless you show me concrete proof of it. But other than that i do believe in Karma (the principle of if you do good things, good things will happen to you but if you do bad things, bad things will happen).
Atheism makes sense, but gives me an idea of that person. Eh, I had a whole thing about atheists not realizing that they're actually agnostic, but whatever. It was kind of off topic.

I think atheists are just on a strict mindset that a superior doesn't exist ( obviously they are ). That just means their stubborn and aren't open minded. In a sense, atheism is stupid. You're denying the possibility ( EVERY single thing has a chance of actually being real ) that there could be a superior old man with a candy cane staff watching over you. Maybe not that exactly, but I think you get the general idea.

Atheists don't accept that there's a possibility of there being something more, something higher, an individual, an entity stronger, an almighty being that created us, etc. When, clearly, everything and anything has the possibility of being real and/or true. You cannot disprove something 100%. You can't. IE : the cup before me could be real. I can see it, taste it, hear it clank against my desk, smell the plastic, and feel its texture. Or, it could be fake, I could be making it up, and it isn't real. How do you prove either one and say that that is what it is? You could be wrong. [EDIT] This went on too long, and it was a circular type of explanation. Basically, you can disprove something, but how do you know your proof disproves it, and if you prove that, how do you know that that proof proves your original proof of disproving? If that makes sense to you, you're awesome, because I barely get it.

Atheism is just a path for close minded people who aren't open to ideas and possibility. When, clearly, ideas and possibility can't be eliminated fully and they will always exist.

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Old 11-08-2007, 04:02 AM   #27
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Science orgasms over an explanation. How can science justify/support that no explanation is needed for the existence of anything??? In essence, how can one expect that no explanation should exist. "It is because it is...."????
Explanation for the creation of the universe is there. Explanation for matter? You are again assuming an explanation is needed. Analyze the following comment:

Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed.

If scientists know they cannot be created, how do you expect a scientist to justify them being created? Using only that low, it follows that they must be eternal.

You're not thinking broadly enough. You think everything must have a beginning because that's what you're used to, and that's how you see the Universe. But we are not the Universe. If you cannot find an objective reason on why can't energy be eternal, then you cannot debate they had a beginning.
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I'm an Atheist so my view is it a good religon.
I believe it is a good religion, what proof is there that it has happened? none
and it is a religion because a religion is what you and other people believe.

Duality you cannot put God and logic together, with God there is no logic
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:25 PM   #29
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I believe it is a good religion, what proof is there that it has happened? none
and it is a religion because a religion is what you and other people believe.

Duality you cannot put God and logic together, with God there is no logic
So you believe that a religion that shuts out possibility is a good one?

Tell me this - do you think anything is possible?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:40 PM   #30
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i do not shut out the existance of any supreme being, i just choose not to believe in it. Theres a difference . I am quite an open minded person, sure there could be a god or supreme being out there, but i feel i need proof for it. but of course, there isn't really any proof god doesn't exist. In my opinion, god was created by people, he DOES exist, but only in people's hearts. They look to him for guidence when they feel they have no one else to look to.

I mainly see religion as people of the pasts' explination to the unknown.
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