Your Views on Atheism

[Samber]

Its not a matter of "Oh beliving in god sounds more fun"

If your an atheist, how can you just out of the blue say
"Christianity sounds fun, lets pretend that god makes the moon shine"?

You can't, its almost like being gay, you really dont choose it, your logic and views on things make you see things in that way.
Persoonally for me, my thing was
"How can people worship, pray, and live by somthing that someone could easily have made up?"
I really don't see why people do, but i respect their decision nontheless.
I also don't understand what you mean "Beliving in god is more fun" How so exactly? Is it somthing like
"Oooh some powerful invisible man controls everything! My decisions in life don't matter because God will fix everything for me! Woohoo!"

Also the bible is a best seller because 76.5% of the American population is christian. :O
Surprise surprise!

I think being atheist is more fun because you aren't restricted to do things, Christianity has all these rules and guidelines, and if you don't follow them you're automatically "A Sinner"
Atheist can do whatever the hell they want, without worrying about "Repenting their sins"

Just my opinion, i could be wrong, after all, being Atheist is just soooooo boring, i'm just being blined by the boringness of my life.

No offense. ~<3

[Kairi3.0]

I believe everyone has the right to their own beliefs

[Hollow Bastion]

Originally Posted by Morning Twilight

[...]who practices Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism (and yes it is possible, just very very difficult). [...]

Just to toss this out there..that can't happen. Islam rejects Christianity's notion of Jesus being God/Son of God. Both Christianity and Islam (especially Islam) reject henothism, which is essentially what Hinduism is. So really, to be one is to reject the others, even if there are similarities.

I can't prove my religion, but I can straight up tell you that the life with religion, the story it produces, is a bit better.

So we're gonna choose our religion on aesthetics?

Also, let's not turn this into Pascal's Wager. So many problems with that idea.

[Abbazaba]

Originally Posted by Delrithk

I dont understand Atheists and Atheism, i dont get how all of this could be an accident, there has to be something more out there, and even if it was an accident, what caused it? Why did the chemicals or what ever react and make Earth and all the planets.

No one knows for sure.

Originally Posted by wii.red24

well im a christian and i dont exactly agrre with atheism in response to ur question gottalovekh1992 i belive God made humans so when that happaned humans started having kids nobody made god cause he made all of the humans and everything else

No.. Humans evolved from lesser forms of life. This has been proven. Stop your nonsense.

Originally Posted by Delrithk

i kind of believe Evolution could've happened, but if it did, then God made evolution possible.

lol.. Evolution isn't a very complex concept. The stronger species survives. There were plenty of failures over the course of time.

Originally Posted by Morning Twilight

I can't prove my religion, but I can straight up tell you that the life with religion, the story it produces, is a bit better. Which is why America's best selling book is the Bible and the #2 spot is mostly fiction, btw.

If you can't prove it, then how could you possibly believe it? It could be false. Completely false. You wouldn't even know it.

To counter what you'll say next - My life is better now that I'm not restricted by religion. I wouldn't want to believe something that can't be proven. That just doesn't make any sense. If it did, it would be plausible to believe in the Tooth Fairy without any real reason, other than, it makes my life better.

[Phoenix]

I personally think Atheism is a stupid..belief system/thought process or w/e u wanna call it...because how boring life is.

I had a normal college day yesterday. It was boring, therefore, it didn't happen.

The reason I used this is I'm trying to say that you get one life if you're atheist. Which story of life would you rather believe? Which one has more excitement, wonder, fun? So what you can't prove it? the fact that you can't disprove it makes it plausible, and therefore a choice that you could believe.

To be honest with you, I prefer to believe the truth over a fantasy. You know what I'll stick with? What I believe to more accurately represent the truth. If that is Christianity, I'll be a Christian. If that is Islam, I'll be a Muslim. If it is atheism, I'll be an atheist.

Atheist can do whatever the hell they want, without worrying about "Repenting their sins"

Barring, you know, laws.

[Akans]

I never said it didnt happen, because obviously something did happen, but if all this was an accident, how did it happen? What caused evolution, and what caused all that to happen? I just find it hard to believe that all this was just a big "oops", what are the odds of all this just falling into place?

Luck. Nothing else. That's why biologists highly doubt that there are aliens, because of the amazingly lucky factors that contributed to human evolution.
And even if God was up there flicking switches on and off to make us happen... then why didn't he make us virtious in the first place, instead of flawed? But you can argue that he gave us free will instead, and that's what destroyed ourselves.
I disagree. Many athiests are happy. And if you look at statistics, there are more Christian criminals than Athiest criminals, btw... That's TRUE. Not made up.
And no, your not a jerk. Keep up the discussion XD. Fight for what you believe in! To a reasonable point, of course...

[...]who practices Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism (and yes it is possible, just very very difficult). [...]

Its like having a hot ice-cream... they cancel each other out. Won't work.

God made humans so when that happaned humans started having kids, nobody made god cause he made all of the humans and everything else

So why add God in? Just say that the Universe was made by no one.
If I say that there are invisible, untouchable fairies in the bottom of my garden, would you accept that? Because, really, adding in fairies/God does nothing. Its just complicating the arguement.

I personally think Atheism is a stupid..belief system/thought process or w/e u wanna call it...because how boring life is.

Compare a Sunday hanging with your friends, to a Sunday singing hymns in a stuffy old church. Not my idea of fun.

To be honest with you, I prefer to believe the truth over a fantasy. You know what I'll stick with? What I believe to more accurately represent the truth. If that is Christianity, I'll be a Christian. If that is Islam, I'll be a Muslim. If it is atheism, I'll be an atheist.

Ditto. If your parent dies, would you ignore that fact for the sake of "wonder, excitement, and fun"?

Atheist can do whatever the hell they want, without worrying about "Repenting their sins"

But that makes good acts even more good. Athiests are doing it out of the goodness of their heart, self-sacraficingly, while Christians who "sin" and just repent later out of fear are really not very self-sacraficing. Why repent when you can just not do it in the first place?

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Akans

I disagree. Many athiests are happy. And if you look at statistics, there are more Christian criminals than Athiest criminals, btw... That's TRUE. Not made up.
And no, your not a jerk. Keep up the discussion XD. Fight for what you believe in! To a reasonable point, of course...

I understand whwat you are saying but eventhough many profess to be Christian, it doesnt mean that they are. Im in class right now so i dont remember the scripture, i'll have to look it up when i go home, but Jesus said there would be those who professed to know him and serve him, but he would say to them that he never knew them... why?

Christianity isnt just a word, its a way of life, and if you constantly practice things that arent Christian, thus the crimes as you stated above then you are not really a chrisitan. Its just like saying "Im a Racer" but if you dont race... and only have have a fast car... does that mean you are a racer? no you simply have a fast car.

Same with Christianity, you might have a set of beliefs, but as James goes on to say: "faith without works is DEAD"

So to really call yourself a "Christian" you must BE Christian, not just CLAIM christianity

Originally Posted by Akans

But that makes good acts even more good. Athiests are doing it out of the goodness of their heart, self-sacraficingly, while Christians who "sin" and just repent later out of fear are really not very self-sacraficing. Why repent when you can just not do it in the first place?

Repentance has to do with a heart condition... people dont really know what it is and claim to repent but do not. Repentance has nothing to do with fear, its a heart change that means a person completely turns around and stops the wrongs they may have committed feeling a DEEP HEARTFELT REGRET over their transgressions.

Once again going back to true Christians, God can read hearts so he knows who is serving him out of love and doing things out of love and a good heart... those so-called Christians who do it just for show are not fooling God, just maybe others humans who see them.

[Phoenix]

Oh, don't give me that "true christian" thing, Smooth.

Chris·tian Audio Help /ˈkrɪstʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kris-chuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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If they believe in Jesus, and believe he is their Savior, yes, they are Christian. Whether they fit your personal interpretation of a true Christian is irrelevant, they believe in God and Jesus and the Bible, therefore, they're Christians.

The fact that nobody's definition of a true Christian agrees with the definition of the person next to you is proof enough of that. I can say the sky is not a "true blue" color, but that wouldn't change the fact that the sky is blue.

[Forever Atlas]

^ The definition of a Chrisitian is that that is outline in the Christian scriptures... my words are not of my own... just what I read in the Bible... even the Bible said that many Believed but did not become one with the faith but continued going on in the dealings of the things before...

I dont care what a secular person has to say about a way they did not start, Jesus' words are recorded, his apostles words are recorded, Gods words are recorded and its the WAY of life that determines if a person is a Christian or not....

I believe in a lot of science, does that make me a scientist?

I believe some of the things muslims say, does that make me a muslim?

From the Christian Scriptures where the set of beliefs are from: James 2: 17 - Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself

Romans 10: 10 - For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation.

John 13: 35- By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves

Matthew 7: 21- 23 - “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.  Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

And thats just a few of the scriptures that point out what a person who IS a christian and who CLAIMS to be a Christian.

Now if Jesus would reject those... Jesus, the one who instituted the Christian faith and congregations in the first century.... if he would reject them as describe above in earlier posts as Christians... I dont care what just any person in secular work says... its not just a belief that makes someone something.

Many of your other posts you have said you take things litterally in the Bible. And there's no way around what is said. What would you say about that? isnt that quite direct and litteral?

Christianity is a way of life... not just believing.. in the first century, they didnt always call themselves Christians... it was just a group of people who lived their lives in accord with the scriptuers and teachings of Jesus.

Eventually possibly by the year 44 C.E. then the word Christian was first used. Its only mentioned 3 times in the Bible period.

[Abbazaba]

Originally Posted by Smooth

Once again going back to true Christians, God can read hearts so he knows who is serving him out of love and doing things out of love and a good heart... those so-called Christians who do it just for show are not fooling God, just maybe others humans who see them.

Why would God want to read my heart? It's a big red ball that pumps constantly. Unless there's writing on it that I don't know about, I don't see a point.

[bamak93]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So the reason you don't believe in Santa Claus is because you're afraid of him. You fear Santa.

No. It's because I have facts that he [spoiler]DOES NOT EXIST[/spoiler].

Religion is PURELY based on BELIEF, not ACTUAL, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that something exists! Otherwise, we'd all have one religion, and to me, that would signal the total devolution of society.

I don't "fear" God, and I'm atheist. Your stereotyping just shows you how much you really know about other religions.

I didn't mean they feared God as in the "OMG LIEK IMMA SO SCARED!" way. I meant in that the concept, does not make sense. Great. You made me confuse myself.

Let me reword that.

The concept of a "higher being" does not make sense to them, so you(as in, atheists in general), ignore the existance of any God. Or you're just naturally skeptical.

Oh yeah? What do you know about Christianity?

Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that I've heard of atheists that are atheists because an hour of their week to worship God is too much for them. So, another cause: LAZINESS!

[Abbazaba]

wait wait I'm good at this game!

another cause : because there are other religions stating the exact same thing - that they're right and everyone else is wrong! and because there isn't any hard evidence that proves the existence of a higher power! and because it just sounds plain silly!

=D

[Hollow Bastion]

Originally Posted by Mickxey

Religion is PURELY based on BELIEF, not ACTUAL, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that something exists! Otherwise, we'd all have one religion, and to me, that would signal the total devolution of society.

So, uh, Russell's Teapot.

Oh yeah? What do you know about Christianity?

Aside from living in a primarily Christian society?

[bamak93]

Originally Posted by Hollow Bastion

So, uh, Russell's Teapot.



Aside from living in a primarily Christian society?

1. Explain.

2. Wasn't directed at you specifically, but rather, SMK, who challenged my knowledge of other religions.

BTW, the only way to truly understand other religions is to be a part of them.

[Chevalier Sombre]

Originally Posted by Morning Twilight

I personally think Atheism is a stupid..belief system/thought process or w/e u wanna call it...because how boring life is.

See, that's the thing: I can't speak for all atheists, but I'm sure there are people like Phoenix and I who won't believe something just because it gives us comfort, makes our lives more "exciting and fun". We seek the truth, regardless of how cruel and "boring" it might be.

The reason I used this is I'm trying to say that you get one life if you're atheist. Which story of life would you rather believe? Which one has more excitement, wonder, fun? So what you can't prove it? the fact that you can't disprove it makes it plausible, and therefore a choice that you could believe.

Refer to Russel's Teapot and the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

Note I'm not trying to insult your religion here. It's just an analogy with a purpose. I'm not saying you shouldn't believe in God, just that simply because something can't be proved or disproved doesn't necessarily make it plausible.