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Old 04/09/08, 10:31 PM   #196
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I didn't say if you believe in a higher power. I asked if you believed it was possible that there was a higher power.
no, i find it hard to beleave there is or ever will be a higher power.
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Old 04/09/08, 10:40 PM   #197
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Well, why not? It would explain quite a few things.
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It's human nature to ignore what we fear.

Athiests do not believe there is a God=Fear.

As for the guy who says religious people are scared of death, you may be true, but they believe in life after death, which gives them hope.
I don't "fear" God, and I'm atheist. Your stereotyping just shows you how much you really know about other religions.
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Old 04/09/08, 10:45 PM   #199
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As for the guy who says religious people are scared of death, you may be true, but they believe in life after death, which gives them hope.
Wouldn't that support his statement? One of the reasons, or their main reason, they believe in life after death is because they're afraid of death. It would just be a way to fool themselves into believing that death is a good thing.
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Old 04/09/08, 11:14 PM   #200
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Athiests do not believe there is a God=Fear.
So the reason you don't believe in Santa Claus is because you're afraid of him. You fear Santa.
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Old 04/10/08, 12:24 AM   #201
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I dont understand Atheists and Atheism, i dont get how all of this could be an accident, there has to be something more out there, and even if it was an accident, what caused it? Why did the chemicals or what ever react and make Earth and all the planets.
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Old 04/10/08, 12:37 AM   #202
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So we shouldn't ask ourselves difficult questions =/?
I didn't say that now did I?

I never said we should just 'Forget about it' people should think about such things and form their own opinion, my point was these "Discussions" can never be more than a collaberation of opinions. Because no ones opinion can be proven, or disproven.
It's an endless war of sorts.


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Wow...no one complered my quote.

Still, atheism is just attributed to FEAR of any God.

How can we be afraid of somthing we believe doesn't exsist???

Would it be somthing like the boogyman?

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Old 04/10/08, 01:40 AM   #203
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I dont understand Atheists and Atheism, i dont get how all of this could be an accident
I bolded the important parts. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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, there has to be something more out there
There has to, or you want it to?

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, and even if it was an accident, what caused it? Why did the chemicals or what ever react and make Earth and all the planets.
Earth? Gravity forms planets, this is a pretty common fact. First life? Probably abiogenesis, but we're still not totally sure of how the process works. Modern life? Evolution.

And I could counter with saying "what made God". If you argue God doesn't need a mover, then I can argue that neither does the Universe.

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I didn't say that now did I?

I never said we should just 'Forget about it' people should think about such things and form their own opinion, my point was these "Discussions" can never be more than a collaberation of opinions. Because no ones opinion can be proven, or disproven.
It's an endless war of sorts.
Don't take it so seriously, it's only half-serious =/

And contrary to popular belief, I don't want people to recognize my opinion is the right one; I want people to recognize that the way I come to an opinion is the right one (i.e. logic and reason, objectivity, etc).
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Old 04/10/08, 02:01 AM   #204
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Earth? Gravity forms planets, this is a pretty common fact. First life? Probably abiogenesis, but we're still not totally sure of how the process works. Modern life? Evolution.
I never said it didnt happen, because obviously something did happen, but if all this was an accident, how did it happen? What caused evolution, and what caused all that to happen? I just find it hard to believe that all this was just a big "oops", what are the odds of all this just falling into place?

i dont mean to sound like a jerk here, im just expressing what i believe
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Old 04/10/08, 02:03 AM   #205
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well im a christian and i dont exactly agrre with atheism in response to ur question gottalovekh1992 i belive God made humans so when that happaned humans started having kids nobody made god cause he made all of the humans and everything else
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Old 04/10/08, 02:04 AM   #206
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i dont believe in evolution
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Old 04/10/08, 02:55 AM   #207
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i kind of believe Evolution could've happened, but if it did, then God made evolution possible.
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Old 04/10/08, 03:01 AM   #208
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I never said it didnt happen, because obviously something did happen, but if all this was an accident, how did it happen? What caused evolution, and what caused all that to happen? I just find it hard to believe that all this was just a big "oops", what are the odds of all this just falling into place?
The theory of evolution doesn't claim it was a big "oops". Natural selection is not a whoops. Natural selection means that the organism who is best at surviving gets to reproduce, hence the descendants of that organism inherit that, and out of those, only the best organism at surviving again gets to reproduce, and so on and so forth. Some characteristics die with the organisms who are not good at surviving, and the ones that survive are inherited by the next generation.

Of course, it's much much more complicated than this, but you get the point that nobody claims modern life is an "oops", although, think about this for a minute: out of the literally trillions of planets out there, is it hard to imagine that at least one of them developed the right conditions for life? I mean, even if it was a one-in-a-million chance, thousands of planets would develop life.

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Define "evolution".
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Old 04/10/08, 03:11 AM   #209
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I personally think Atheism is a stupid..belief system/thought process or w/e u wanna call it...because how boring life is.

If anyone in here has read Life of Pi, the story is about an indian kid who practices Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism (and yes it is possible, just very very difficult). He then is left on a boat with a zebra, hyena, orangutan and a bengal tiger. The bengal tiger is the only one who survives with Pi (the indian kid's name). He then has to survive for 227 days on this life boat with this tiger, marking his territory and taming it. Eventually he reaches land and some investigators ask him what happened. And he tells them what u've been reading about for like 400 pages. But then they ask for a story with no animals. And he tells them about his mom, a sailor, and a french cook that correlate to animals in the story. The end is that the inspector reports the animal story because Pi asked, "which story do you like better?" the reply, "the one with the animals."
The reason I used this is I'm trying to say that you get one life if you're atheist. Which story of life would you rather believe? Which one has more excitement, wonder, fun? So what you can't prove it? the fact that you can't disprove it makes it plausible, and therefore a choice that you could believe.

I can't prove my religion, but I can straight up tell you that the life with religion, the story it produces, is a bit better. Which is why America's best selling book is the Bible and the #2 spot is mostly fiction, btw.
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Old 04/10/08, 03:24 AM   #210
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Its not a matter of "Oh beliving in god sounds more fun"

If your an atheist, how can you just out of the blue say
"Christianity sounds fun, lets pretend that god makes the moon shine"?

You can't, its almost like being gay, you really dont choose it, your logic and views on things make you see things in that way.
Persoonally for me, my thing was
"How can people worship, pray, and live by somthing that someone could easily have made up?"
I really don't see why people do, but i respect their decision nontheless.
I also don't understand what you mean "Beliving in god is more fun" How so exactly? Is it somthing like
"Oooh some powerful invisible man controls everything! My decisions in life don't matter because God will fix everything for me! Woohoo!"

Also the bible is a best seller because 76.5% of the American population is christian. :O
Surprise surprise!

I think being atheist is more fun because you aren't restricted to do things, Christianity has all these rules and guidelines, and if you don't follow them you're automatically "A Sinner"
Atheist can do whatever the hell they want, without worrying about "Repenting their sins"

Just my opinion, i could be wrong, after all, being Atheist is just soooooo boring, i'm just being blined by the boringness of my life.

No offense. ~<3
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