Your Views on Atheism - Page 13

Phoenix · 04/09/08, 04:32 AM

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If there was a Big Bang, what created the ball of energy?

What caused the big Bang, if indeed "cause" is the right word to use? We don't know. We have no idea. We do know a Big Bang happened, however we're more than willing to admit that there are many, many things we don't know. It may have been some unexplained law of physics, if may have been God. However, since usually things attributed to God are usually explained by science later, I'm leaning towards lack of God, but I can't be sure, can I? That's why I'm an agnostic atheist.

Also, you run into more problems with God. Not only do you need to explain where God's energy comes from, but his intelligence, benevolence, omniscience and so on, too.

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^ lmao! and they wonder why I dont argue with them a lot lol... its just not worth spending the energy if there is no reasoning but just plain arguments.

Of course, you cannot be referring to me, as I didn't even state anything, I just asked a half-serious question to someone that was not you. That'd make you a hypocrite, after all, and you don't want to be a hypocrite, do you?

Forever Atlas · 04/09/08, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Of course, you cannot be referring to me, as I didn't even state anything, I just asked a half-serious question to someone that was not you. That'd make you a hypocrite, after all, and you don't want to be a hypocrite, do you?

woah dude lol... wow... chill... wow haha... seriously what is with you? u always gotta turn that way man... i was just replying to a post RIGHT above me... i didnt even have u in mind when i typed it. lol....

Phoenix · 04/09/08, 04:55 AM

You used the word "them", did you not?

Akans · 04/09/08, 12:53 PM

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If there was a Big Bang, what created the ball of energy?

Yes, that is the flaw in the "cause" arguement. But that isn't the only creation theory, remember. What created God? Both theories have flaws, and both theories are near-impossible to confirm.

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"If I told you there was such thing as a Flying Spaghetti Monster, would you believe it simply because it can't be disproven?"

There is a difference. Disproven does not mean proven. Proven means that there is confirmation that there is a strong possibility of such and such happening. Unproven means that there is no evidence to confirm, nor unconfirm. Disproven means that there is evidence that suggests that there is a strong possibility of such and such not happening.
Note that no theory can be truely and totally confirmed. Theories are being disproven even today.

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its just not worth spending the energy if there is no reasoning but just plain arguments.

There is. It's fun XD. For some of us. And your wrong - most philosophical arguements DO have reasoning, just that THIS arguement in particular has very little evidence to support either sides...
Unless your suggesting the arguement above...

Forever Atlas · 04/09/08, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

You used the word "them", did you not?

I sure did, but do you have to include yourself in everything? There are many "thems"... I was actually thinking back to a particular day when a group of ppl were telling me to meet them in the chat and when I did they all went into a hysterical rant on what they believe it was pure chaos and I wasnt about to try have a structured conversation with all that, it would be impossible. so I left and they went on and on and on about how Im this and that because I wouldnt waste my time on their arguments.

YOU WERE NOT THERE! -.- so chill man... u take everything I say too personal even when it has nothing to do with you at all.... (and I know you are going to come back with some other reply to this too)

bamak93 · 04/09/08, 08:18 PM

Wow...no one complered my quote.

Still, atheism is just attributed to FEAR of any God.

Phoenix · 04/09/08, 08:57 PM

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I sure did, but do you have to include yourself in everything? There are many "thems"... I was actually thinking back to a particular day when a group of ppl were telling me to meet them in the chat and when I did they all went into a hysterical rant on what they believe it was pure chaos and I wasnt about to try have a structured conversation with all that, it would be impossible. so I left and they went on and on and on about how Im this and that because I wouldnt waste my time on their arguments.

YOU WERE NOT THERE! -.- so chill man... u take everything I say too personal even when it has nothing to do with you at all....

Experience with you has forced me to be defensive =/

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Still, atheism is just attributed to FEAR of any God.

Attributed by yourself, you mean? Care to back this up?

Clone · 04/09/08, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickxey

Wow...no one complered my quote.

Still, atheism is just attributed to FEAR of any God.

I would put the other way and say religous people r scared of death. Thats my opinion any way.

Forever Atlas · 04/09/08, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clone

I would put the other way and say religous people r scared of death. Thats my opinion any way.

well... cant really make that generalization.... in each group, religious and not religious there will always be people who fear death and those who dont

Abbazaba · 04/09/08, 09:59 PM

My girlfriend is atheist.

I'm not sure if this holds any real significance in the current conversation, but I thought you guys would be interested.

As for clone -

I was religious for twelve years. It wasn't because I feared death, but rather, religion was pushed on me and I hadn't been exposed to any other beliefs. There was only one thing to choose from and so it was mandatory that I chose it. When my brain developed and I realized that there was more than just eating pieces of Jesus, I became an Atheist. Then, I actually become open-minded and let everything hold an equal chance of being right.. because, well, I didn't know.

Long story short, now I'm Agnostic. There was nothing that involved being afraid of death to make me change from Catholic, to Christian, to Atheism, to Agnostic. Whatsoever. Your statement is wrong. Not entirely wrong, because that's probably true for some people, but you can't assume that to be the case for every religious person.

Clone · 04/09/08, 10:11 PM

well u can't assume that atheists fear God, no that any one did but what i said eailer is how i would respond to someone who says im atheist cause i fear God. well tbh im not a religous person that why im atheist, that the only reason i can think of.

Abbazaba · 04/09/08, 10:16 PM

Do you believe in the possibility of there being a higher power?

Clone · 04/09/08, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbazaba

Do you believe in the possibility of there being a higher power?

To be blunt i find it hard to beleave in a higher power.

bamak93 · 04/09/08, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Attriibuted by yourself, you mean? Care to back this up?

It's human nature to ignore what we fear.

Athiests do not believe there is a God=Fear.

As for the guy who says religious people are scared of death, you may be true, but they believe in life after death, which gives them hope.

Abbazaba · 04/09/08, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Clone

To be blunt i find it hard to beleave in a higher power.

I didn't say if you believe in a higher power. I asked if you believed it was possible that there was a higher power.

04/09/08, 04:55 AM	#183
Phoenix Knight of Zero Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Borinquen Age: 20 Posts: 13,893 Rep Power: 19	Re: Your Views on Atheism You used the word "them", did you not?

04/09/08, 08:18 PM	#186
bamak93 Uryu Ishida FTW Join Date: May 2006 Location: don't look behind you... Age: 14 Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 5	Re: Your Views on Atheism Wow...no one complered my quote. Still, atheism is just attributed to FEAR of any God.

04/09/08, 09:59 PM	#190
Abbazaba iAmM Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth. Age: 17 Posts: 1,157 Rep Power: 5	Re: Your Views on Atheism My girlfriend is atheist. I'm not sure if this holds any real significance in the current conversation, but I thought you guys would be interested. As for clone - I was religious for twelve years. It wasn't because I feared death, but rather, religion was pushed on me and I hadn't been exposed to any other beliefs. There was only one thing to choose from and so it was mandatory that I chose it. When my brain developed and I realized that there was more than just eating pieces of Jesus, I became an Atheist. Then, I actually become open-minded and let everything hold an equal chance of being right.. because, well, I didn't know. Long story short, now I'm Agnostic. There was nothing that involved being afraid of death to make me change from Catholic, to Christian, to Atheism, to Agnostic. Whatsoever. Your statement is wrong. Not entirely wrong, because that's probably true for some people, but you can't assume that to be the case for every religious person.

04/09/08, 10:11 PM	#191
Clone Organization Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: another planet Age: 20 Posts: 369 Rep Power: 1	Re: Your Views on Atheism well u can't assume that atheists fear God, no that any one did but what i said eailer is how i would respond to someone who says im atheist cause i fear God. well tbh im not a religous person that why im atheist, that the only reason i can think of.

04/09/08, 10:16 PM	#192
Abbazaba iAmM Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Earth. Age: 17 Posts: 1,157 Rep Power: 5	Re: Your Views on Atheism Do you believe in the possibility of there being a higher power?

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