Your Views on Atheism

[Phoenix]

atheists would say the action reaction of nature

Atheists would probably say "I don't know". Just throwing that out there.

[Samber]

Originally Posted by Dantez of Divinity

Here enlighten yourself with science!!
Hawking cracks black hole paradox - 14 July 2004 - New Scientist

What I said has to deal with Atheism is this; both sides in the debate on if a God exists can be helped by science. The big question is this ''What started that chain of information? Was it God or was it the action reaction of nature?'' atheists would say the action reaction of nature and faithful would say that it’s God. (But then the faithful would say that God made nature there for he made action and reaction of nature. Can't really one up either side.) What I want to get across to faithful with their views on atheism is think of them as just another religion that thinks that the information giver is nature and its science. What I'm getting across to those who are atheists is that there is a good chance that who or what the information giver is might never be known and it might very well be God. Don't be prejudice. Get information on both sides of the debate and then decide if you want to get into the discussion. Know that many discussions that have plagued the human mind have just been pushed away because it does not matter. This includes thousands upon thousands of ''Hmm... Your different then me.'' discussions. Why should this be any different?

Atheists you are not going to change the true faithful any more then you can deify gravity and fly.

Faithful you can not change the beliefs of hardcore atheists any more then you can take God's place in Heaven.

All of this is just prejudice and seeing what are the things you have to say to get an atheist or faithful upset or angry adventure.

Nobody cares right? You all just want to be right that freaking badly and shove it in the other persons face. Well faithful that's a sin of pride and atheists that makes you and the person you’re offending fell less of a human and all humans are equal under law and ethics.

Does God exist is just another question that can not be answered. Why have hateful views against the other side at all?

A compelling argument! I actually kinda think your finding are quite interesting. Though my belifs have not changed, you actually did make me think a bit there.
Very good.

[JUSTICE]

Is there a term for someone who doesn't believe in anything?

I personally prefer Agnosticism over Atheism. Who can honestly profess to know everything/anything?

[Dr. Freeman]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Apathy

Is there a term for someone who doesn't believe in anything?

I personally prefer Agnosticism over Atheism. Who can honestly profess to know everything/anything?

Nihilism i believe it's called.

Also, throwing this out there: Aethiests don't necessarily believe in scientific laws. They just don't believe in a God, per se. Just in the way I can be an agnostic xen buddhist, someone can be an atheistic nihlist or atheitstic buddhist.

[Samber]

^True, I have a friend who is atheist and he doesnt believe in science, though I myself believe in science.

[Hollow Bastion]

Originally Posted by Time

Nihilism i believe it's called.

Also, throwing this out there: Aethiests don't necessarily believe in scientific laws. They just don't believe in a God, per se. Just in the way I can be an agnostic xen buddhist, someone can be an atheistic nihlist or atheitstic buddhist.

At its core, Buddhism doesn't believe nor disbelieve in the existence of a god. The question is of no concern to the Buddhist.

[Dr. Freeman]

It was just an example, HB.

[Akans]

Okay, then, I'm throwing out the debate between Athienism and Theologists...

What I said has to deal with Atheism is this; both sides in the debate on if a God exists can be helped by science. The big question is this ''What started that chain of information? Was it God or was it the action reaction of nature?''

The arguement put forth by philosophers is a "cause" theory. The Universe was created by God - the cause. But what created God? What caused God to exist? Saying that God is the exception (because he is almighty) is just simply dodging the question, and admitting a flaw. If God is the exception, why not say the existance of the Universe is an exception? Why add in the unnesecary details?
Say that another God created this God? What was the cause of God #2? God #3? Eventually, you'll have a chain of infinate Gods.
And even then, it still doesn't solve the question. What caused the infinate chain of Gods in the first place?

This can also be applied to the Big Bang theory - what caused the Big Bang? Scientists may say that they do not have the information, but then does that mean the Big Bang is unproven? Yes.
But the same can be applied to the existance of God. Just because there is no proof doesn't mean that it may not exist.
So God may exist.

However, there are arguements against that (unsurprisingly):
The most powerful and hardest to flaw one is the "evils" one. The fact that people are suffering in this world. Theologists say that God made us suffer to "help us improve and become virtious", but why does Kim Il Sung (The dictator of North Korea, btw) live in wealth and luxuary, while there are millions of kind-hearted people starving?

A Theologist can refute this by saying that "we must change" and that "we brought this among ourselves". But why didn't God make us virtious in the first place? And even then, a lot of the suffering is brought by natural disastors, instead of direct human involvement.

But that's the whole point of faith....

O.o Confusing?

[Phoenix]

The evil argument only applies to a benevolent deity. Indifferent and malevolent gods do just fine with it.

[Samber]

The bottom line on this entire srgument is, we will never know. We can debate all we want, throw out as much evidence as we please, and point out the flaws in each others belifs. But no matter what we believe we will just never know. At least before we die. Such things are beyond our ability to comprehend, whether it be science wise, or the divine power of god, we don't know, and can't know. Its like trying to make fire with rubber.

[Phoenix]

So we shouldn't ask ourselves difficult questions =/?

[JUSTICE]

It's too mentally exhausting, Phoenix. D=

We should all be outside, playing sports and hunting endangered species.

[Forever Atlas]

^ lmao! and they wonder why I dont argue with them a lot lol... its just not worth spending the energy if there is no reasoning but just plain arguments.

i'll play catch with u :D

[bamak93]

"If I told you there was such thing as a Flying Spaghetti Monster, would you believe it simply because it can't be disproven?"

^^^Rep to whoever finishes the quote...

I don't like Atheism, because it brings up more problems than it solves.

If there was a Big Bang, what created the ball of energy?

[JUSTICE]

Originally Posted by Mickxey

"If I told you there was such thing as a Flying Spaghetti Monster, would you believe it simply because it can't be disproven?"

RAmen to that.

Originally Posted by Smooth

i'll play catch with u :D

Hooray =D