Isn't so much harder to be a devout Christian these days?

[Dogenzaka]

This is pretty much what every generation has said about the next throughout the history of mankind. Notice how we're still around?

I don't give it much time before we blow ourselves up anyway XD

Oh, but of course, because nobody outside Christianity practices any of those, AMIRITE???

No one said that. =P

No you just think that you're all going to a better place after death...

And you're so sure of the afterlife (or lack thereof) yourself?
Tasted and seen?

[chaywa]

Originally Posted by Dogenzaka

And you're so sure of the afterlife (or lack thereof) yourself?
Tasted and seen?

No, i can just accept the fact that when i'm dead, i know i'm either going to be in a box in the ground or burnt with my ashes kept somewhere safe...

[Johnny Stooge]

Originally Posted by kingofkeys

I believe that being [...] a good person, is so much harder these days simply because of the enormous amounts of tempting things that are available to us everyday. In the old times, certain temptations weren't around. They had it so much easier than we do now! Does anyone else agree?? If so give me your opinion.

Am I the only one that believes you can give into "temptation" and still be a good person?

[Libra]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stooge

Am I the only one that believes you can give into "temptation" and still be a good person?

Like I've said before, You can be a good person with a strong sense of morals and not follow christian dogma. Yet these people are like "OH NOES!!! A SIN!! REEEPPPPPPENNNT!" If they believe we come into this world as sinners, there is no point in repenting because I'm not sorry for being born and nor did I ask to be.

[Phoenix]

Repenting is hypocritical in of itself. Say a nazi comes to my house and asks for jews. I lie and say there are no jews here.

Am I sorry for lying? No. Would I do it again? You betcha. Yet, according to Christianity, this was as bad as taking a bat and killing the nazi.


Is it harder to be a devout Christian? Probably because the laws made centuries ago no longer apply.

[Felix Chu]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Repenting is hypocritical in of itself. Say a nazi comes to my house and asks for jews. I lie and say there are no jews here.
Am I sorry for lying? No. Would I do it again? You betcha. Yet, according to Christianity, this was as bad as taking a bat and killing the nazi.
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It's the intentions behind it. You'd be doing it to save the lives of others. The same point is made in stealing. A poor man cannot afford to buy food for his family, so he steals bread so he can feed them. Good or bad?
A family member is ill and you can't afford to medicine to save them, so what would you do?

[Phoenix]

So what's your point? Does God allow for exceptions in his rules? I thought God rules were absolute.

[Felix Chu]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So what's your point? Does God allow for exceptions in his rules? I thought God rules were absolute.

My point was of the intention behind what you do. I'm not saying Christianity is perfect, there are contradictions and such in everything. But I was just making a point about the intentions.

[Phoenix]

Of course there are intentions to consider! Not according to the Bible, though. Refer to 2 Samuel 6:1-8. Uzzah tries to catch the ark from falling the the ground. His intention was pure, but God killed him for touching the ark. Clearly, rules are more important than intentions.

[Felix Chu]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Of course there are intentions to consider! Not according to the Bible, though. Refer to 2 Samuel 6:1-8. Uzzah tries to catch the ark from falling the the ground. His intention was pure, but God killed him for touching the ark. Clearly, rules are more important than intentions.

Which was also the next point I was going to make, but I didn't realise that till after I posted
It also highlights the many contradictions with Christianity, as I said, I'm not bashing it since I'm Catholic, but I also understand it isn't exactly a perfect religion. All I can say to it is, "God works in mysterious ways"?

[Phoenix]

In a logical, reasonable argument, that kind of thing doesn't apply. The honest thing to do would be to admit that you don't know exactly why God did that, or admitting that the OT laws are outdated.

[Felix Chu]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

In a logical, reasonable argument, that kind of thing doesn't apply. The honest thing to do would be to admit that you don't know exactly why God did that, or admitting that the OT laws are outdated.

I think I mentioned something about that in another post. Honestly, I don't know why he did it. I also agree that the OT is slightly outdated, I'm more of a NT person anyway.
I don't know why he did it, probably had a good reason but it was never made clear. I don't like it when people automatically assume why he did it using "He was a sinner!" as their excuse. As you pointed out, his intentions were pure, but in the end he was punished.

[Phoenix]

Ok, now let's say you've never read the Bible. People tell you what happened to the guy.

Would you find the situation for the man fair or unfair?

[Felix Chu]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Ok, now let's say you've never read the Bible. People tell you what happened to the guy.

Would you find the situation for the man fair or unfair?

I probably would find the situation unfair, since his intention was to stop it from smashing.

[Phoenix]

Very good, at least you're honest about it.

Back to the original topic, it's harder to be a devout Christian today because the times have changed. Homosexuality is recognized as natural. Sex is recognized as natural. Tolerance is now more important.