Imperfect God

[212]

I have wondered about this question for a long time. Is God perfect? I mean, having essential being that has never before been seen to man perfect? He "made" Adam and Eve, which the bible claim to be the first humans. So God created Adam and Eve, a mistake. So God multiplied the amount of humans. I have always heard "Humans are not perfect. We all make mistakes." God created humans in vision of himself. We are like pieces of a puzzle. A puzzle called God. So if we make mistakes, God made us in his vision of himself so that Means God is imperfect......right? Leave your opinion. If this thread has been discussed I will personally get a moderator to close it.

[Katattack]

Well, gee, isn't it said that he made Adam and Eve LIKE himself, not completely himself?

Well, I don't think that he's perfect, but that's cause I have got my own problems with him at the moment. But he made his people capable of hurting him, emotionally, anyway.

Why would he do that? He must have made a mistake. Therefore, he's not perfect.

[Shadukai X]

God made us in 'his image and likeness'...God is fully and completly perfect.
The Reason we are so imperfect is beacause God gave a the greatist gift of all FREE WILL. We are so imperfect, beacuse we choose to be.

However, God intended to not make us pefect...if we were pefect, we would be God....and that my friend, would not work out

[Katattack]

Doesn't God have free will, though?

And he's allegedly "Perfect".

But what if he's actually evil? Perfect just means "As close to what God does as you can get", then, doesn't it?

[pwn3d]

Well, he has made many mistakes. The flood he said " I will never commit such a crime ever again." He commited adultery, with mary. He created humans, which are extremely flawed. And he killed off many species, against his own word.

[.:Game Master:.]

Originally Posted by sora212

I have wondered about this question for a long time. Is God perfect? I mean, having essential being that has never before been seen to man perfect? He "made" Adam and Eve, which the bible claim to be the first humans. So God created Adam and Eve, a mistake. So God multiplied the amount of humans. I have always heard "Humans are not perfect. We all make mistakes." God created humans in vision of himself. We are like pieces of a puzzle. A puzzle called God. So if we make mistakes, God made us in his vision of himself so that Means God is imperfect......right? Leave your opinion. If this thread has been discussed I will personally get a moderator to close it.

God is perfect. No question about that. He created humans to have a free will, therefore it was his creation that was imperfect, from sin that is.

For the record
1. The flood was necessary to rid the world of evil. (Translations can sometime be innaccurate)
2. He didn't commit adultery with mary. lol
3. He made man with a power of choice, something too powerful for man to handle, that's our fault... or atleast Adams.

[212]

I know God is an elite being but seriously think about it? He produced terrorists, Tsunamis, Earthquakes, and Volcanic Eruptions. So seriously how do you think a heaven could exist when you never have seen it. Like saying Kingdom Hearts 4 has come out but you never saw or experienced it.

[Chaotic_Countess]

But isn't, you know, impossible to have a perfect God?

Because, my idea of perfection is different from, say, Hitler's idea of perfect.

Perfection is a point of veiw.

[Ric]

Originally Posted by Chaotic_Countess

But isn't, you know, impossible to have a perfect God?

Because, my idea of perfection is different from, say, Hitler's idea of perfect.

Perfection is a point of veiw.

Not how I would word it, but very nicely said. Perfection has not absolute defintion. So NOTHING is capable of perfection.

[pwn3d]

For the record
1. The flood was necessary to rid the world of evil. (Translations can sometime be innaccurate)
2. He didn't commit adultery with mary. lol
3. He made man with a power of choice, something too powerful for man to handle, that's our fault... or atleast Adams.

In hebrew, god said to noah something to the effect of "this flood was a mistake, i will never use flood to rid the world of evil ever again."

Adultery is the act of sleeping with another mans wife, and the only possible way for jesus, and any being for that beathing being is to be birth, and the only logical way that mary could have given birth at that time is to be impregnated. Therefore, god slept with mary, a married women, and in turn she gave birth to his son.

[Eclipse]

I have wondered about this question for a long time. Is God perfect? I mean, having essential being that has never before been seen to man perfect? He "made" Adam and Eve, which the bible claim to be the first humans. So God created Adam and Eve, a mistake. So God multiplied the amount of humans. I have always heard "Humans are not perfect. We all make mistakes." God created humans in vision of himself. We are like pieces of a puzzle. A puzzle called God. So if we make mistakes, God made us in his vision of himself so that Means God is imperfect......right? Leave your opinion. If this thread has been discussed I will personally get a moderator to close it.

He made us in his vision, we were perfect, until we fell into sin. The devil tempted Adam and Eve into sin, therefore their children were also born in sin. It was a choice we made, not God. We chose to sin, not God. We were a perfect vision of him, we were intelligent beings with souls. Because we chose to sin, we are paying the consequences, just like any father would discipline their children.

That's just the way the Bible describes it. And since this answers the question, I believe the thread should be closed.

You're welcome =]

[Ric]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

He made us in his vision, we were perfect, until we fell into sin. The devil tempted Adam and Eve into sin, therefore their children were also born in sin. It was a choice we made, not God. We chose to sin, not God. We were a perfect vision of him, we were intelligent beings with souls. Because we chose to sin, we are paying the consequences, just like any father would discipline their children.

That's just the way the Bible describes it. And since this answers the question, I believe the thread should be closed.

You're welcome =]

Ill call you BS. God created us knowning we would bring "sin" into the world.

[Eclipse]

Ill call you BS. God created us knowning we would bring "sin" into the world

Don't insult me, I don't insult you for being a Satanist.

We have the free will to choose, he knows what will happen. We chose sin, therefore we pay the consequences. So a father should just never have children, even though he knows they will make mistakes in life?

This thread was made as a question, the question has been answered upon Biblical evidence. Therefore this thread no longer serves use

[Ric]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

Don't insult me, I don't insult you for being a Satanist.

Damn, you guys get insulted really easy, even when there is no insult =/

We have the free will to choose, he knows what will happen. We chose sin, therefore we pay the consequences. So a father should just never have children, even though he knows they will make mistakes in life?

I thought god couldn't stand sin? So why would he create two organisms that will eventually bring sin into the world? Thats like knowing your kid is going to shoot you in the foot, but you don't do anything about it, then ground him for life because he shot you in the foot.

This thread was made as a question, the question has been answered upon Biblical evidence. Therefore this thread no longer serves use

No, this thread is just getting started. "God" is far from perfect, and I see nothing that can tell me other wise

[Eclipse]

Damn, you guys get insulted really easy, even when there is no insult =/

*ahem*

Ill call you BS.

I thought god couldn't stand sin? So why would he create two organisms that will eventually bring sin into the world? Thats like knowing your kid is going to shoot you in the foot, but you don't do anything about it, then ground him for life because he shot you in the foot.

They didn't shoot God in the foot >.>

God can't stand sin, thats why he was seperated from mankind after they sinned. So are you saying because a father knows that their child will one day cuss, and hate them, and stay out late, and have sex, and steal the car, and get in fights in school, they might as well just not have a kid at all.

God created mankind for companionship, he gave them free will so that they could love him by their own will, not programmed like a robot. That free will gave them the right to choose. They hade every other fruit tree in the garden, but they HAD to eat one of the forbidden fruits. Choice, my friend. Choice.

No, this thread is just getting started. "God" is far from perfect, and I see nothing that can tell me other wise

I tell you otherwise. My words are just as good as yours.

This thread was a question, not a discussion. When a question is answered, the thread becomes irrelevant.