The Biggest Cover-Up in Human History

[Cloud_Unchained]

Originally Posted by quitejaded

WTF does the bible have to do with it?

He brought up the fact that The Da Vinci Code was historical fiction. I compared it with the bible which, regardless of belief, is also historical fiction.

[squall leonhart]

The Bible has a lot to do with it,quitejaded.In fact,Da Vinci was supposedly trying to paint a scene FROM THE BIBLE.And I agree with Phoenix.You shouldn't beilieve everything you see or hear.And who knows.Maybe the Da Vinci code IS real.Maybe it's just another conspiracy created by the government to hide the real truth.I mean,take the Pope.It was said publicly that his name was Vicarius Filli Dei.Add all the letters up in Roman numerals.Total=666!And there is a lot of other stuff that the Bible predicts before it actually happens.But the Bible uses symbolism to predict these things happening today.It doesn't actually point them out.

[Phoenix]

666, big freaking whoop. Out of 10 billion names in the world, one looks like 666? OMG, end of the world? No.

[pwn3d]

Originally Posted by squall leonhart

I mean,take the Pope.It was said publicly that his name was Vicarius Filli Dei.Add all the letters up in Roman numerals.Total=666!And there is a lot of other stuff that the Bible predicts before it actually happens.But the Bible uses symbolism to predict these things happening today.It doesn't actually point them out.

ZOMG Ronald Wilson Reagan, he must be the devil, he has six letters in each of his names! OMFG!

Seriously that basically what you just said.

[violent_anger]

for some reason, i assumed that if it was a 'name with 666' case, then it would at least be their names in hebrew, i dont see any original text of the bible in latin.

oh and pho, im curious, what did the history channel say about the world flood?

[Phoenix]

That it was a regional flood legend that spread, seeing how "World Flood" myths predate the Bible, all the way back to the Epic of Gilgamesh, a Babylonian epic story and arguably the oldest piece of literature.

[Endless Devoid]

MANY world religions include the legend of the great world flood in their tales, making it arguably a relevant beleif. THAT, or we have irrefutable proof that religious beleifs are stolen from their predecessors.

Bearing back on course;

so what if the we wanted to prove it wrong we had a right, dan brown(author of the Da Vinci code) specificaly targeted christianity by making false acusations and provoking the media to make it seem true, when it is all lies and fiction.

Dan Brown is christian, lives in New England; USA, has admitted multiple times that the Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction.

Now, nonetheless, 75% of the historical facts and ideas presented in the story ARE true. That doesn't make the whole thing true, but I'll be damned if it doesn't make the possibility conceivable. The arrogance of christians as a whole is what drives them to become so defensive, because the ideas the book contrives are based on FACT, and could tempt their beleifs. However, any well educated christian already knows these things. If you lose your faith after reading this book, you were a crappy christian anyway.

Leanardo Da Vinci inpicted St. James in the last supper to appear femanine because of his dislike for the church because they did not believe he was practicing homosexuality its proper way so he left the church and in his anger he insulted the church in a way by doing these small things whcich never really were noticed until people started making books like dan brown's.

Scholars have been noting these things for years now, but no one knows what Da Vinci was thinking. St. James is in the portrait, but he is NOT the one that looks like a girl. No my friend, that IS a woman.

dude your wrong dont even start they proved you wrong already

Where is this proof?

Just like the bible.

The bible is MEANT to be metaphorical, based off religious allegories, not to be taken literally. Like I said before; any educated christian knows these things.


In all reality, the majoirty of facts presented in the book were true. The story itself however, and the diffinitive proof that these malcontrived theories are TRUE however are the fiction. That does not change the fact that these theories have LONG since predated The Da Vinci Code, and have existed since even before Dan Brown was even born. For years science and theory have been at war with the church, and for years the church has been losing ground to these simple, provable, beleivable facts. THIS is the reality, not some book. Let the fools see the err of their ways in their own stead, while we laugh on the sidelines for all the lives lost "in the name of god."

[violent_anger]

That it was a regional flood legend that spread, seeing how "World Flood" myths predate the Bible, all the way back to the Epic of Gilgamesh, a Babylonian epic story and arguably the oldest piece of literature.

...didnt you say there was proof that it couldnt happen? id like to hear alot about it, but thats what im most interested in, pho

[Endless Devoid]

The epic of Gilgamesh is a story over 4,000 years ago, written in ancient sumerian text and found in the ruins of Mesopotamia. ((correct me if I'm mistaken.))

It was in the posession of a babylonian king. It's translated version shares a tale of a great flood that washed the earth clean of life. As the story says, the god of war and power Enu decided that humans were too loud and noisy that they disturbed the gods. So, without consultation of the other gods, Enu flooded the earth.

One godess, I do not recall her name, warned a man named Utnapishtim that this would occur, and he gathered up as many people, riches, and food he could carry in a giant ark built of gopher wood and sailed off to escape the ravaging waters. The flood lasted 3 weeks, and the 9 stocked levels of the Ark were dwindling when the torrents stopped. It took some time for the water to settle down and for land to resurface. Three doves were released to search for land, and on the last day they found land.

Enu was forced to repent to the humans for his his horrid mistake, and Utnapishtim and his wife were granted immortality.

If you know the story of the flood well, then you'll noticed the MULTIPLE similarities. You'll also note that this text is YEARS older than ANY christian text ever found. It is arguably the oldest piece of written text in the world.

[violent_anger]

thats cool, i heard there were like 300 other stories alot like that, althoughi doubt as old as that.

i repeat my question, why could a world flood not have been possible?

edit: oh, and fyi, noahs ark is a jewish story

[Endless Devoid]

Yes, I know that, I was translating it from the fact that it is contained in the form we know in the CHRISTIAN bible.

The flood IS possible, all well known religions confirm it happened. However, doubtful it was a WORLD flood, or else, like the legends say, all past life would be dead.

[Phoenix]

i repeat my question, why could a world flood not have been possible?

Oy, for the love of...

Is there enough water in the world? No. Did it leave the sediments water leaves? No. Did all civilizations write it at the time? No. Can the world keep it's temperature and not have it rise above boiling if it's completely filled with water? No. Is there a way for the atmospherical pressure to not rise above 12 atm if it'd happen? No.

edit: oh, and fyi, noahs ark is a jewish story

You think? Yes, ripped off the Epic of Gilgamesh, just like the others.

[Endless Devoid]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Oy, for the love of...

Is there enough water in the world? No. Did it leave the sediments water leaves? No. Did all civilizations write it at the time? No. Can the world keep it's temperature and not have it rise above boiling if it's completely filled with water? No. Is there a way for the atmospherical pressure to not rise above 12 atm if it'd happen? No.



You think? Yes, ripped off the Epic of Gilgamesh, just like the others.

Groundwater, possibly

How do you know?

Most did

True o.o

Not sure.

Nonetheless, I beleive the flood happened in the Mesopotamian valley, which at the time was the main focus of civilization. I've no doubt the flood could have been powerful and high enough to destroy the rack shack civilizations they had there. Which is also the main topic of debate for the city of Atlantis. Some say that the flood wiped out the civilization and buried it's remains under the sea.

[Phoenix]

Groundwater, possibly

a. Bible says it was a Flood, water came from the heavens and b. you think there's enough to cover America, Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia and Antantica?

How do you know?

Because if the Flood was global, sediments would be left uniformaly around the whole world. No such thing.

Most did

At the same time? Nope. In fact, Egyptians were happily building pyramids around that time.

Not sure.

Oh yes. We'd be crushed to bits.

Nonetheless, I beleive the flood happened in the Mesopotamian valley, which at the time was the main focus of civilization. I've no doubt the flood could have been powerful and high enough to destroy the rack shack civilizations they had there. Which is also the main topic of debate for the city of Atlantis. Some say that the flood wiped out the civilization and buried it's remains under the sea.

Dude..... what the heck is wrong with you? Continents are not piece of land floating in the sea, like the ancients thought, it is impossible for a continent to sink.

[Endless Devoid]

WTF? Who said a continent? O.o

Okay, let me repeat myself, I'll be a bit clearer this time. XD

I think A flood happened.
I think this flood was centralized in the valley where the remains of mesopotamia lie.
I think that the flood DESTROYED mesopotamia and killed many of it's inhabitants, thus the ruins.
I think the ruins we know as the CITY of Atlantis, are actually the ruins of mesopotamia that were washed out to sea. Just an abstract theory that is floating about in my head.

When did I ever say anything about a continent sinking? O.o
I'm not stupid. >_>