Satanism=bad?

[Mitsukai]

I dunno if anyone else has made a satanism thread or anything, but I was wondering what people really thought about the religion.

This is the Theory/Practice of Satanism:

Originally Posted by The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

Y'know, I think I've been following these rules without even knowing them xD
Except for no.7 and probably no.1 :p

Are they really promoting evil here?

9. Do not harm little children.

That isn't evil at all. Children are cool. Satanism looks like it's acknowledging that.

From what I've heard Satan obeys God directly, so could that mean Satanism is really just a more self-centered twisted form of Christianity?

Discuss away! And adhere to the forum rules whilst doing so ^ ^

[Ric]

Please do not pair up Satanism to Christianity >_>. Thats insulting. Anyways, just about everything you hear about satanism are liee formmed by christians to scare people away from it. They get "Devil Worshipers" mixed up with "Satanist".

[Puddle Jumper]

Modern Satanisme is a creation of the Catholic church only to ensure that people stay on the side of God. Much like they started to use the pentagram as a symbol of Satan. For it original was meant for something else. The pentagram eventually symbolised the goddess Venus and the path the planet follows in space. Seeing as it represented the devine femininity, Christians adapted it for evil purposes.

And about number nine ... Yah ... Satanists probably hurted less children than christians

[Mitsukai]

I see. I thought that the pentagram symbolised both masculinity and feminity as one desired entity, or at least that was what the davinci code told me :p

[Puddle Jumper]

Hehehe, I wikipedia'd it ^.^ I never learned so much

That's some advice for everyone: Try going to Wikipedia and learn the truth about several subjects concerning satanism.

Although I couldn't find one thing. In Demons and Angels ((or the other way around, I don't know the english title)) Brown states that the first satanists are the believers in Science. That they refuse to believe everything religious and that they explain or want to explain everything with sciense. But I can't seem to find that in Wikipedia.

[Gav]

Originally Posted by Mitsukai

but I was wondering what people really thought about the religion.

I believe the reason of Satanism is self-lust, but many would see that as a sin.

Originally Posted by Puddle Jumper

Hehehe, I wikipedia'd it ^.^ I never learned so much

Don't just use this as your only resource, as it's not 100% correct, due to be abled to be edited.

[Puddle Jumper]

But every edit is firstly moderated and checked before the article is actually edited. There is a thread about wikipedia in the intel forum I believe. ^.^

[Gav]

Originally Posted by Puddle Jumper

But every edit is firstly moderated and checked before the article is actually edited. There is a thread about wikipedia in the intel forum I believe. ^.^

I'm quite aware of that,
I've came across what appears to be a bible of Satanism, but am still questioning it. It has many chapters on Lucifer himself, and some diaglogue of the 'Black Pope' and the origins of this so called religion, what it states is basically offering yourself to Satanism and self-lust, everything that the Holy Bible is against.

[LuvKyou]

Well, from what the rules say, it seems that "satanism" isn't all that bad but it does seem like they're talking about animals rather than humans. I suppose that people just think it's bad because Satan = Evil. and the obvious connection between Satanism and Satan.

[Puddle Jumper]

My own version of Satanism's origins.

Mankind created the catholic belief. Jezus was born ((in my opinion)) learned of the catholic belief and preached it. His apostels and lover wrote up there parts of the story and the church chose which stories to put into the bible. And then they started to enforce this book on the people. Every human is like a little kid. Enforce something and they do the opposite, thus Satanism was born.
[End my version]

Satanism is the negative side of the Catholic church. The flipside of the coin if you will.

[LuvKyou]

But if their values like, the rules are good and not evil in any way, how can they be the flip-side of the coin? If they were the flip-side, then they would be devil-worshippers, not Satanists.

[Ric]

((Eh, hold on I messed up my post >_<))


Paddle Jumper: Your post are bull, and I know for a fact wiki did not say that >_>. None of the many times of Satanim where created by the Catholic church. I don't know where you are getting you information from, but its a bunch of Bull. Even though it wasn't created by the Chatlic church, many lies have been made to destroy the religion(Sacraficing babys, animals, they support evil, etc)). You are actually getting Satanism confussed with Devil Worship. Yes they are two different things. Devil worship is usally the teenagers that are in thier rebeling stage and are complete idiots by killing animals. They just claim it as Satanism >_>

Gunblade: I support wiki and its Satanism section of it. It's very accurate though I am bugged by a few things. The religion is more about self-gradification and enlightment that just self-lust. And yes, there is a chapter of Lucifer in the Satanic Bible writen by Anton Salazr LeVey the founder of The church of satan and LeVeyan Satanism. The chapter is known as The book of Lucifier a.k.a the enlightenment. There are also 3 other books, The book of Satan, The book of Levitheian, and the book of belial. You have to read it to get the full definition of LeVeyan Satanism. Yes, I am a LeVeyan Satanist myself.

Here are two links you have to read on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_satanism

((Ill finish this post later))

[Riku's Dawn]

In other words, the church is still messed up even after the Middle Ages. They still sin a lot!

[Mitsukai]

So you could say that Satanism is perhaps a twisted mix of buddhism and christianity then?

Though none of the two religions encourage wickedness in any way, the practice of buddhism is slightly more self-centered, with the whole aim of reaching enlightenment and all. You can't help someone else reach enlightenment, you can only achieve it yourself.

Christianty would have seen this as self-centered and wrong perhaps, though it isn't really, because Buddhism still encourages acts of kindness. So maybe the first satanists were christians who took on the buddhist teachings, were shunned for it, therefore turned to the only other mythological being they could follow (Satan) and then personalised the new religion a bit so that people wouldn't catch on.[/randomthoughts]

Yeah I'm done... The only problem is that I didn't research anything to back up such a farfetched theory that wouldn't make sense for numerous reasons that you all know but I don't, which was why I created the crazy theory to beign with; so that I may ooze answers out of you without actually having to ask. :p

[Ric]

Eh, wrong. I suggest you read up on the wiki section of satanism and or go to this site.

www.churchofsatan.com

This is the officail website for the Church of Satan. They tell you alot about it in there. Also, don't mix Christianity in with Satanism.