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Old October 19th, 2009, 04:37 AM   #1
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Muslim girl who became Christian, ordered back to parents she fears may kill her

By Amy Green

Religion News Service
Updated: 10/14/2009 03:55:41 PM MDT

ORLANDO, Fla. » First there was Elian Gonzalez, the Cuban boy torn between two nations. Then there was Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged woman torn between two families. Now comes Rifqa Bary, the teenage runaway torn between two faiths.

If you're involved in a high-stakes custody fight, Florida, it seems, is the place to be.

Could Rifqa's father in Ohio really kill her for leaving Islam to embrace Christianity? Has the 17-year-old read too many fundamentalist Christian Web sites? Or is it all just teen dramatics?

Those are all questions swirling around the 17-year-old Ohio girl who became a Christian several years ago and sought shelter with an Orlando pastor after she feared for her life because, as she says, her father is bound by his Islamic faith to kill her.

Her parents deny the charges, and are now fighting in the courts in both states to bring Rifqa back home. The case has become a cause celebre among conservative Christian groups, Muslim activists and, of course, politicians.

Gov. Charlie Crist said "the first and only priority of my administration is the safety and well-being of this child." Marco Rubio, Crist's opponent in a GOP primary for a U.S. Senate seat, also urged state leaders "to use every legal tool at their disposal to properly evaluate Rifqa's best interests."

"The case in Florida began as a television event," said Craig McCarthy, a former attorney for Rifqa's
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mother in Orlando. "It could have been dismissed on day one."

As courts in Orlando and Columbus, Ohio, wrestle over which state has jurisdiction, Rifqa remains in Orlando in foster care. On Tuesday, an Orlando judge ruled Rifqa should return to Ohio, although no timeline was set, and when she does return, she will remain in foster care.

The girl arrived in Orlando after connecting with the wife of an Orlando pastor on Facebook. The pastor and his wife took Rifqa in after "they realized that she was someone who really believed her life was in danger," said Mathew Staver, the founder and chairman of the Liberty Counsel, an Orlando firm specializing in religious litigation. Staver represents the pastor and his wife, Blake and Beverly Lorenz. The teen was placed with a different foster family after the couple contacted authorities.

A Florida Department of Law Enforcement report found no evidence of any threat or abuse against Rifqa and said her allegations are "based on her belief or understanding of the Islamic faith and/or Islamic law and custom. (Rifqa) stated that she believes Islamic law dictates she must be put to death for her abandonment of the Islamic faith."

Her father, Mohamed Bary, denied making any such threat, according to the report, but he told investigators when he confronted Rifqa about her conversion last June he lifted a laptop to throw it but reconsidered, thinking about how much money he had invested in it.

The case has put Muslim groups on the defensive. Islam condones no such killings, said Babak Darvish, executive director of the Columbus chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Darvish said the girl's parents are distraught about her behavior. They brought the family to the United States from Sri Lanka when Rifqa was a child so that she could receive better treatment for an eye injury that eventually left her blind in one eye, he said.

Darvish accused some conservative Christians and politicians of using the story to stoke anti-Muslim sentiment. "They're trying to use this case to further this extremist political, religious agenda," he said.

Lou Engle, an outspoken Kansas City, Mo., evangelist who has taken up Rifqa's case, said, "If Florida authorities release her to her parents, who she alleges threatened her for converting, we don't know what will happen to her and we should not risk it. While we hate to see any child leave the care of their parents, these conditions are unacceptable."

For some, Rifqa personifies lingering Christian-Muslim tensions more than eight years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. In late September, as more than 3,500 Muslims prepared to gather for Friday prayers at the U.S. Capitol, Rifqa was featured as part of a national call-in prayer-a-thon.

Engle, who helped organize the call, referred to Rifqa as "our little sister," and during the call, Rifqa grew emotional when she was asked to pray for Muslims to embrace Christianity.

In her few public appearances, Rifqa is at times emotional, impassioned, giddy and sometimes a little incoherent. In a YouTube video during which she shares her testimony, Rifqa calls her parents "radical, radical Muslims" and says, "they can't know of my faith because if they do know the consequences are really harsh. Just the culture and the background that they come from is so hostile toward Christianity."

She explained that a classmate introduced her to Christianity, and then grows emotional as she describes the moment she became a Christian, during an altar call at church.

"The Lord completely wraps me in his arms of love, and I break down on the floor and weep," she said. "I felt nothing but love, nothing but this great radical love."

An attorney for Rifqa did not return calls seeking comment; his staff cited a court-imposed gag order. Staver said the threat against Rifqa is real and that Muslims, not Christians, have turned the story into another televised courtroom circus.

McCarthy, the Orlando attorney who formerly represented Rifqa's mother, was ambivalent about those who have taken up Rifqa's cause.

"It is not a unanimously held belief that these people are orthodox Christians," he said. "Which to me is a double tragedy for Rifqa, because if she wants to be a Christian, that's fantastic. I don't think she's necessarily being taught the faith in a healthy way."
Muslim girl who became Christian, ordered back to parents she fears may kill her - Salt Lake Tribune

So yeah it would be pretty bad if the parents are stupid enough to kill her.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 04:49 AM   #2
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In other news......

lol no but seriously, this is why there are hardly any middle-eastern families that come to my church. There's a few middle-eastern guys/girls, but they dare not let their family know that they have started coming to Christian church, or they may never see the light of day again lol.

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but he told investigators when he confronted Rifqa about her conversion last June he lifted a laptop to throw it but reconsidered, thinking about how much money he had invested in it.
Laptop > daughter.

What the fuck is wrong with him?
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I think a lot of conservative Christian families would overreact to their children converting, too. I think my dad would rather see me dead than see me reading the Qur'an.
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as she says, her father is bound by his Islamic faith to kill her.
wait what

i don't know much about islam, but that doesn't seem right...

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Her father, Mohamed Bary, denied making any such threat, according to the report, but he told investigators when he confronted Rifqa about her conversion last June he lifted a laptop to throw it but reconsidered, thinking about how much money he had invested in it.
good lord

o_o

maybe she wasn't too far off then. i would just blame it on the crazy father and not islam though.

regardless i really like this quote:

"The Lord completely wraps me in his arms of love, and I break down on the floor and weep," she said. "I felt nothing but love, nothing but this great radical love."

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I think a lot of conservative Christian families would overreact to their children converting, too. I think my dad would rather see me dead than see me reading the Qur'an.
o.o that's pretty harsh then.

If I wasn't a Christian my parents would probably be heartbroken and pray for me everyday, but never wish me dead. Because if I'm dead, then there's certainly no chance that in a Christian's viewpoint that I'd be able to go to Heaven. lol.
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as she says, her father is bound by his Islamic faith to kill her.
what the fuck? nowhere in Islam is that said.
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what's truly hilarious is that you people the girl's fears are completely rational
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I think religion causes more damn problems than it does good. However, I can sort of sympathise with the girl here since I could really stereotype and say that some Muslims are extremists. This is, of course, using the example of terrorists, and while I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists, some of them do take their faith pretty damn seriously. What kind of father would hit their child because they want to change their faith? And then realise she's not worth the amount of money they spent on a fancy laptop? I mean, come on. That's not only over-the-top, irrational and abusive, it's also embarrassing and takes away some of the girl's dignity.
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Reading stories like these always makes me glad that I'm atheist.
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Reading stories like these always makes me glad that I'm atheist.
Yeah, you and me both. :/ No person should have to live in fear at what their parents might do in connection with their religion. Having to live like that in itself is something I would consider to be extreme.
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Reading stories like these always makes me glad that I'm atheist.
this is wut atheists acutally believe

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this story is not just old, but filled with fallacies, i read up on this shit like in may

the girl is being a little over dramatic bitch, her parents let her be a cheerleader, thats huge for an immigrant family from a muslim country - they are clearly liberal on religious issues. shes a media loving attention whore

over the summer ive gotten an email with this story at least 5 times from different christians telling me its an example of something thats happening every day with new chrsitians. lol wut. its basically turned into a chain mail story


just the first paragraph of the article shows how this piece of bullshit is yellow jouirnalism at its finest, instead of looking at the issue from an objective, news reporting glance, or showing the people a cause that we as human beings hsould work on, it makes blatant statements that both divide and rack up viewership.
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