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May 26th, 2009, 10:27 AM
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#16 | | \+The Devil's+/ .{Advocate}.
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Currently playing: Folklore | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? My personal answer is simple.
I do not believe that God exists.
Therefore, there is no intervention from said God, and no conflict.
But then, that removes your argument.
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May 26th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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#17 | | "Friend"
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Registered: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,123 | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaude Drenxta My personal answer is simple.
I do not believe that God exists.
Therefore, there is no intervention from said God, and no conflict.
But then, that removes your argument. | hey stop we're supposed to be IC | |
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May 26th, 2009, 11:12 AM
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#18 | | Sense is Key, Knowledge is Power
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Currently playing: with guns, fire, and scissors | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? I think it is perfectly fine for ppl to accept in what they believe in.
The argument i am making is not the fact of whether God is real or
isn't, but it is the idea of God through people that leaves certain points
of disbelief, such as us being important, and the affair of humans
being somewhat grander then that of the universe. The idea of God
is genuinely human, except that everything it does is more than a
million times of what we can do. The idea of us being in its image, over
everything he creates, is firmly close to that of those who once believed
that the Earth was the center of the universe. We don't even question
the convenience of the Virgin Mary, birthing a son of God, when women
at her time were killed if they had children without marriage......
It's not a disbelief in God, but the idea of it. Perhaps there could be
some omnipotent being that simply creates for some intangible reasoning,
and perhaps ppl believe way too much of themselves as being important.
You can find plenty of signs of that without religion.
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May 26th, 2009, 11:15 AM
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#19 | | "Friend"
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Registered: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,123 | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Deism? | |
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May 26th, 2009, 11:22 AM
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#20 | | \+The Devil's+/ .{Advocate}.
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Currently playing: Folklore | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Definitely, some one here is definitely deist.
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May 26th, 2009, 11:26 AM
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#21 | | Sense is Key, Knowledge is Power
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Currently playing: with guns, fire, and scissors | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Aucune Raison Deism? | that would be the word,
but my idea is merely a thought, i don't deem it to be true,
but simply something that comes to mind.I can't prove whether
God is real, or isn't just as much as i can't prove whether an Atheist
is right or wrong. I'd say, that i'm on the spectrum of Deism and
Agnostic.
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May 26th, 2009, 11:49 AM
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#22 | | antispiralpuppy
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Originally Posted by ‡ƵionΡhnӾ‡ Me: what about all the stuff you said, and advised?
God: Ah dude, i was hella bored :>
God: hey did you like your girlfriends ass? that was all me bro, that was all me
Me: :< | I love you man.
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June 1st, 2009, 01:06 PM
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#23 | | Crownless King
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True story.
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June 1st, 2009, 01:14 PM
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#24 | | antispiralpuppy
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June 13th, 2009, 09:36 AM
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#25 | | The Luna Diviner
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Originally Posted by Square Ninja Man created God to feed its own ego.
True story. | Close, but wrong. Man created God in his own image: Intolerant, homophobic, sexist, and violent.
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June 16th, 2009, 07:52 AM
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Registered: Jul 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 5 | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? God gets involved in our lives because He wants to protect us, but also be able to guide us in the path that He has created for us, just like He created us. | |
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June 16th, 2009, 03:29 PM
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#27 | | "Friend"
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Originally Posted by chaoticguy1982 God gets involved in our lives because He wants to protect us, but also be able to guide us in the path that He has created for us, just like He created us. | Seeing how much suffering there is in the world and how many people aren't Christians, he must be doing a bad job. | |
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June 17th, 2009, 02:13 AM
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#28 | | The World Rests On Me
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Registered: May 2007 Location: What, what?! In the butt! Age: 22 Posts: 6,055 | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Quote:
Originally Posted by ‡ƵionΡhnӾ‡ It occurred to me that a being that is omnipotent would be of a more carefree nature, and one that creates, would simply create endlessly, just as a microorganism, or an organism in general multiplies itself. What makes a God become involved with that of human affairs aside from everything it creates. With so much in the universe why is Earth considered a center of all the problems a God must involve itself within. Looking through our history I realized that we as human destroy everything we create, and for a God to involve in these affairs would make that being more human than inhuman. For something so perfect, and something that cannot be explained even in the most complex of research i have come to realize that God seems just as human as any man, and woman on this earth. He gives ppl the freedom to make choices, as opposed to his angels, and yet his wrath explained in the Bible doesn't escape the wrath he set upon his angels that followed his right wing, Lucifer. What makes God, God. is it because we can't see it? is it because we don't understand it? or is it because it is bigger,and more powerful than us? The more i look into its involvement with human affairs the more God becomes less omnipotent, and more human.
this isn't a question of whether God is real or not, but rather on what makes him a God
that confuses me. | I'm guessing we are talking about the God of the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures here.
I'm just a bit confused here.
Angels have free will. Lucifer =/= Satan and Satan was never God's "right wing." That is, if we are going by the Bible here. And the only thing God did (so far) to those angels that followed Satan was kick them out of heaven.
What makes God, God? That's a vague question really. Anything is a god as long as it is worshiped. Your OP sort of confuses me though. What exactly is it that you can not understand?
What I gather is the question of why does God care about humans? It's not only humans that God cares for. All of his creation God cares about. However, God did create man in his likeness and the Bible does say God is the epitome of love, so he is concerned about his creation. I've never really thought of man being SO important or the focus of anything really. While man does play a large role in things, it is really the sanctification of God's name and His UNIVERSAL sovereignty.
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June 17th, 2009, 02:18 AM
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#29 | | Being old never looked this fresh.
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Registered: Apr 2007 Location: With Lions and Tigers, only in Kenya Age: 18 Posts: 4,421 | Re: Why would a God involve itself in human affairs? Well, if referring to the christian god, the textbook answer would be "because he loves us."
God (according to christian doctrine) loves us unconditionally, and created us in his own image. So that would be my guess.
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June 17th, 2009, 02:58 AM
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#30 | | "Friend"
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Originally Posted by The Lionheart Well, if referring to the christian god, the textbook answer would be "because he loves us."
God (according to christian doctrine) loves us unconditionally, and created us in his own image. So that would be my guess. | But, if so that love is not spread equally by any means but existence. | |
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