Secularism

[Kegluneq]

Secularism - "The view that public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element."


What do you think about secularism?
I believe that it helps keep balance in the workplace or school regardless of other peoples religion or philosophy. I mainly bring this up because people at my work are all religious, and I'm not.
They all have tendencies, knowing fully that I'm atheist, to either preach and talk about their religion, or ignore me talking against their religion, the eh "double standard" I guess.
Also, what do you think about my situation?

[Aucune Raison]

Religion has no place in anything government related. The idea that creationism is on the same level as evolution and should be required learning makes me sick. Students are at school to learn of things that at least have proof of being true, if they want to learn about religion they can contact places of worship.

About your situation, if they're trying to convert you, tell them to back off. If they continue to bother you, tell your boss. Where exactly do you work?

[∞]

Ragione has mirrored my thoughts perfectly.
Add to that that religion has little to no part in science as well as government and education, and those are my exact thoughts.

[Dogenzaka]

Though they should back off if you clearly ask them to, remember that it's an embedded, innate, divine duty to try to save people and show them the love of God, for Christians. It's not like they're doing to purposely annoy you. In their minds, it's the greatest thing you can do for a human being.

Evolution has a lot of holes in its argument, as well as the standard argument for Creationism.

Regardless, being a Christian, and not religious, I disagree with Ragione.

[Aucune Raison]

Originally Posted by Dogenzaka

Though they should back off if you clearly ask them to, remember that it's an embedded, innate, divine duty to try to save people and show them the love of God, for Christians. It's not like they're doing to purposely annoy you. In their minds, it's the greatest thing you can do for a human being.

Evolution has a lot of holes in its argument, as well as the standard argument for Creationism.

Regardless, being a Christian, and not religious, I disagree with Ragione.

1. That doesn't give anyone the right to attempt to convert people in the workplace.

2. While there are some holes that scientists are trying to fill in evolution, creationism is ONE GAPING HOLE that can only be filled by faith and the proof which is a book created many many years ago that is exclusively filled with secondhand and thirdhand sources which has been added to, edited, reedited, and translated.

3. Of course you do. :-)

[New2Ya]

@Ragione
Amen.

Though they should back off if you clearly ask them to, remember that it's an embedded, innate, divine duty to try to save people and show them the love of God, for Christians. It's not like they're doing to purposely annoy you. In their minds, it's the greatest thing you can do for a human being.

They can do that in Church. That's what it's for. People who seek the enlightment of God can visit holy places to understand the religion and possibly be 'saved' by God.

[Thor.]

Far too many people are made uncomfortable. Leave Religion in church.

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Effectively you ask Christians to be insincere in their religion, for to confine a worldview within a building is to deny it as a worldview.

I find this definition of secularism interesting, in that it limits its scope to public education and civil policy (though how far the latter extends I do not know). I find nothing wrong with it in principle, but I question (given the above considerations) whether it is really feasible.

[Shade737]

Originally Posted by Kegluneq

Secularism - "The view that public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element."


What do you think about secularism?
I believe that it helps keep balance in the workplace or school regardless of other peoples religion or philosophy. I mainly bring this up because people at my work are all religious, and I'm not.
They all have tendencies, knowing fully that I'm atheist, to either preach and talk about their religion, or ignore me preaching against their religion, the eh "double standard" I guess.
Also, what do you think about my situation?

Fixed.

[ikkuh2]

If everybody keeps his beliefs behind his front door and assigned buildings, it would mean less irritation and such. Not favouring certain views in public over others, as it should be.

[Swxpert]

Originally Posted by Dogenzaka

Though they should back off if you clearly ask them to, remember that it's an embedded, innate, divine duty to try to save people and show them the love of God, for Christians. It's not like they're doing to purposely annoy you. In their minds, it's the greatest thing you can do for a human being.

Evolution has a lot of holes in its argument, as well as the standard argument for Creationism.

Regardless, being a Christian, and not religious, I disagree with Ragione.

for the moment take "God" out of the picture (even though I am very Catholic) think about it whatever the people on these boards think if you but all the people of all faiths together( Catholics, Protestants, Muslims,Jews, Hindus, Bhuudists, Sihks, Scientologists, and various other cults and religions) I think you would find that the bottom number is greater then the number of people who believe in ABSOLUTLY nothing, and I count straight up Darwinian Evolution as a relegion because people fight for it. so if you feel the urge to claim you are an atheist then Argue science with anyone that makes you a Zealot for your cause, and anyone who says otherwise is just kidding themselves.

Now, before you people (what do you mean "you people") go and scream FUCK you Catholic boy as it seems very popular to do here, let me be the first off to say that there are one or two dissagreaments I have with the catacism thogh they aren't the ones most people think of,also like many NEW Catholics I am not a Creationist, I am an Intelligent Design-ist I do not discount the value that evolution plays in the creation of the world,science is very important but we must look at the small stuff like genetics, I mean do you people realize that for the flaggellae attached to a sperm cell to evolve correctly requires nearly 32 different specifice mutations, now if we look at the 4.5 Billion years of this planets life, I (and others) feel that it is impossible for such specific evulutionary steps to have happened in such a reletivly short period withought outside help, may it be Aliens or "God" or whatever.

but thats my rant.

[ikkuh2]

I mean do you people realize that for the flaggellae attached to a sperm cell to evolve correctly requires nearly 100 different specifice mutations

Easy, isn't it, pulling a number out of your ass. For something simple like a protrusion of the membrane, it's actually very low.

[daxter fan]

Originally Posted by Swxpert

and I count straight up Darwinian Evolution as a relegion because people fight for it.

Yeah right, if there were people who said 1+1=5 and I try to prove them with all the IQ left in me after hearing such statement that 1+1=2 so you say 1+1=2 is a religion? Evolution is science, there's no faith in science, you can assume it's wrong but you'll have to bring a contradicting evidence to prove you statement, and believe me.. many tried to bash Evolution, but the amount of physical evidences increases from week to week making the theory even harder to contradict.
I suggest learning Biology before throwing words to the air that you heard in church.

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Originally Posted by ikkuh2

If everybody keeps his beliefs behind his front door and assigned buildings, it would mean less irritation and such.

It would also mean religion would cease to exist as a reality of the outside world.

[ikkuh2]

Of course not, everybody recognises a church or synagoge. It won't make it completely invisible for the outside world.