Science and the Bible

[Forever Atlas]

I am making this thread because I keep seeing all these posts about how God, the Bible, Christianity, etc. can not mix. That they are polar opposites.

Why do people keep saying that?

Now I didn't say religion and science because I know there are some religions that flat out do not agree with any science. However, where do people keep getting the notion that you have to believe in one or the other?

While there are a FEW subject matters that the Bible and science bluntly do not agree on, the rest, is absolutely fine.

So where do people keep getting this idea from that you have to believe in one or the other?

[Angel]

Because in science class, "God willed it so" is not an acceptable answer.

[Mr. Wilhelm]

I guess it's mainly on Evolution and the Creation... If you're 100% Christian, in theory, you cannot believe in Evolution and in the world having taken millions years to be created, what is the scientific view, since the Bible said the world has been created in 7 Days without any evolution.

[Forever Atlas]

Except that is a Creationist view. Not necessarily a Christian view.

The Bible says it took CREATIVE days for the earth to be formed. Not literal days. It very well could have been millions of years.

Evolution is not the only subject matter in science.

[Gildragon]

Originally Posted by Forever Atlas

Except that is a Creationist view. Not necessarily a Christian view.

The Bible says it took CREATIVE days for the earth to be formed. Not literal days. It very well could have been millions of years.

Evolution is not the only subject matter in science.

not to mention the Bible does say something to the point of to God a day is as a million years.

[Angel]

Yeah, but science is the study of nature, things that we can observe, and therefore have evidence of.

Religion on the other hand, is "This happens because God made it that way".

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Angelus

Yeah, but science is the study of nature, things that we can observe, and therefore have evidence of.

Religion on the other hand, is "This happens because God made it that way".

Which then can be backed up by science. Sure God made it a certain way, why not see how God made it happen by means of science?

[Aqua13]

science was originally said ot be the study of nature of god, so why nto believe in both? ther are theories out there that contradict the bible, but they are only theories.

anyways, i tihnk the bible doesnt contradict science or vice versa

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Forever Atlas

Which then can be backed up by science. Sure God made it a certain way, why not see how God made it happen by means of science?

Give me a scientific way of proving God exists.

In fact, give me a scientific way of proving that there is a higher plane.

Or a lower plane, for that matter.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Angelus

Give me a scientific way of proving God exists.

In fact, give me a scientific way of proving that there is a higher plane.

Or a lower plane, for that matter.

Show me in your posts or my posts before where we said anything about proving the existence of God by means of science.

[Mr. Wilhelm]

But there is countless issue where science and religion disagree, not only Evolution. Like, the world being flooded, a ship made of wood surviving on it with every species on Earth, then the flood 'stopping' and the world coming back to normal. From a scientist viewpoint, it's a fairytale, and without any explanation, except if God has powers they cannot explain.

And here's the problem. For scientist, when something cannot even start to have the beggining of a logical explanation, it is impossible except if they observe it. And god enter in this category. Everything can be explained without him, they never saw him, and nothing logical implies his existence. So, they consider he doesn't exist, and religion and science get separated.
Like, black hole, I'm not sure we ever saw one when we thought of it.. But it was scientifically logical, so it entered in the possible and even likely, and now proved. Or those far far away weird galaxy which are weird (forgot their name). We never considered them or saw them as logical, but we saw them, so we admit they exist.

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Forever Atlas

Show me in your posts or my posts before where we said anything about proving the existence of God by means of science.

You're just saying that God makes things happen by way of science.

If he does, then it's logical to assume that God exists.

So prove there's a God making things happen by way of science.

If not, then things happen because those are natural laws applied to Earth.

[Aqua13]

i believe there are something science cant do. i mean if god is almighty and can control nature, cant he control nature in his own favor?

and god is a being that has an infinite ammount of knowledge and power, its impossible to even try to study him since our minds cant comprehend everything, or it migt be too much for us to handle

[Gildragon]

Originally Posted by Aqua13

i believe there are something science cant do. i mean if god is almighty and can control nature, cant he control nature in his own favor?

Yes

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Rufus Shinra

But there is countless issue where science and religion disagree, not only Evolution. Like, the world being flooded, a ship made of wood surviving on it with every species on Earth, then the flood 'stopping' and the world coming back to normal. From a scientist viewpoint, it's a fairytale, and without any explanation, except if God has powers they cannot explain.

It was an ark (not a ship). The rain stopped eventually. The water didn't subside immediately. That's how floods usually go, no? It takes time, but the waters do eventually recede.

and a little something on the flood:

A Whole World Destroyed

And here's the problem. For scientist, when something cannot even start to have the beggining of a logical explanation, it is impossible except if they observe it. And god enter in this category. Everything can be explained without him, they never saw him, and nothing logical implies his existence. So, they consider he doesn't exist, and religion and science get separated.

Science believes in quite a bit they can not see. For example, the wind and gravity. They see the affects of them but they can not actually see it.

Christians will argue that you can see the works of God and the affect he may have in their lives or in other areas as proof of his existence.

Besides, there are numerous scientists that believe in God. Is something wrong with them?

Just a few articles that you might want to take a gander at:

Reconciling Science and Religion

Does Science Contradict the Genesis Account?

Is It Unscientific to Believe in God?

Is Evolution Compatible With the Bible?