My stance on Scientology

Dantés de Divinity · January 11th, 2009, 09:07 AM

If this is found to offensive feel free to delete.

This is my stance on the “Religion” Scientology. I want any scientologists on this site to know that I’m not against your religion just its legal and converting practices. This is not a thread bashing Xenu so if that is what it becomes I will close the thread.

I have grown concerned about the upper management and more questionable practices of the church as it is now.

To ascend the OT levels you have to pay thousands of dollars in courses, weekly confessions (that they tape), the with hold from new members all the information on their religion, they say they are a non prejudice people but their texts state that they can lie to, sue, and destroy any of their critics (SPs), and they are favored by the U.S. government over all other religions

If you wanted to convert to any other religion I'm sure you could walk into their place of worship talk with the priest or whoever you runs the place and (s) he will tell you everything about their religion, prophets, and holy book. In most cases they will let you take a copy of their holy book free of charge.

For Scientology they lie to you and say they will give a free stress test, they sell you a 20 dollar pamphlet, that goes over things you already know (basic morals that you don't need religion in your life to know) and then if you say yes to all the stuff they sell you, you'll embark on a multi year long payment plan where you do all the work yourself. And only after thousands of dollars you reach OT3. At this level in the faith you are told about the intergalactic prince named Xenu. Upon getting this information you are told never to tell anyone who is below OT3 or is not a member of the church. This is displaying cult like behavior. The things leaked on the internet are just the tip of the iceberg.

This is opposed to the free of charge intro and explanation of the other faiths of the world.
I have no problem with the Church of Scientology existing. I just have a problem with how the faith is packed and sold to its members. What bugs me is that if you nothing of Xenu or any of the other stuff on the web now and you walked into your local church of Scientology they would not tell you about him. If you are not at the right OT level and you ask them they will lie right to your face and say that Xenu's actions is not what they believe.

Other faiths will tell you all about their beliefs if you ask them and you can start doing the things you need to do if you want to join free of charge outside of buying good clothes for the event.

Not only are new members lied to but the church has down things that are less than praise worthy. Some of you may know about operation Snow White.

Operation Snow White - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then of course there was the business with the IRS in the early 90s. Scientology and the IRS as their relationships stands violates the constitution of the U.S.A. but nothing about it has been done and succeeded.

Other faiths around the world have done horrible things in the past; there is no reason why Scientology should have a higher standard. The difference between them and what I have a problem with is that the other faiths have stopped doing illegal activity or provide a conscious effort to try to stop corruption in their church. Scientology to the best of the public knowledge has not done so completely.

That my friends is the difference between Scientology and other Religions. This is what I have such a big problem with.

Once again I’m perfectly fine with the Church of Scientology existing. I have no problem with them believing in space aliens. It does not sound any wackier than what my religion says.

Below are the links to the Church of Scientology’s website and the link to Anonymous’s website if you want more information.

Home - Why We Protest
Scientology - Church of Scientology Official Site

~~Kegluneq~~ · January 18th, 2009, 09:33 PM

I'm not sure what to say, I'm not a Scientologist, I have seen a video that wasn't in favor of it, but your post seems to say alot aboout Scientology so there's not much left to talk about. I don't think anybody on this is a Scientologist though.

**Shade737** · January 18th, 2009, 09:46 PM

What you said is deep and I fully agree with you.

VampiricVirus · January 19th, 2009, 05:50 AM

Yeah I pretty much agree with you there. Only thing though is I don't support anonymous.

**Square Ninja** · January 21st, 2009, 12:41 AM

horrible text color is terrible

Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cult.

**Aucune Raison** · February 7th, 2009, 09:14 AM

eventually there will be a huge information leak revealing the whole socalled iceberg.

either it will gain followers or collapse, depending on how it's presented.

Dantés de Divinity · February 9th, 2009, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragione

eventually there will be a huge information leak revealing the whole socalled iceberg.

either it will gain followers or collapse, depending on how it's presented.

I think it will die faster then show Greg the bunny did.

~~Charlie~~ · February 9th, 2009, 08:55 AM

Hardly anyone remembers Greg the Bunny, until you mentioned it.
Scientology is a disgrace to cults.

to the human race, rather.

Firo · February 9th, 2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vodka

Hardly anyone remembers Greg the Bunny, until you mentioned it.
Scientology is a disgrace to cults.

to the human race, rather.

I agree with you.

**Thor.** · February 9th, 2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VampiricVirus

Only thing though is I don't support anonymous.

You support them. You just don't know it yet.

daxter fan · February 9th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Square Ninja

horrible text color is terrible

Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cult.

The only thing that makes a religion different from a cult is it's amount of followers.

Dantés de Divinity · February 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxter fan

The only thing that makes a religion different from a cult is it's amount of followers.

No the only things that makes a Religion different than a cult is that Religion has practices that are socially acceptable, is not secretive about what occurs behind closed doors, and offers help for the most part free of charge.

Scientology,being a cult, does none of these things

daxter fan · February 9th, 2009, 12:06 PM

Well I can show you differently,but I don't want to get into another religious discussion.

Sephora. · February 9th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Scientology = Tom Cruise
Tom Cruise = Crazy.

no.

pretty, this goes for any religion, Since I'm NOT religious.
I pretty much just don't care.

**Shade737** · February 9th, 2009, 12:48 PM

Religion = / = Cult

January 11th, 2009, 09:07 AM	#1
Dantés de Divinity Devoted affection Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: On a hill in a white dress waiting for my dearest to arive Posts: 1,925 Rep Power: 0 Level: EXP:	My stance on Scientology If this is found to offensive feel free to delete. This is my stance on the “Religion” Scientology. I want any scientologists on this site to know that I’m not against your religion just its legal and converting practices. This is not a thread bashing Xenu so if that is what it becomes I will close the thread. I have grown concerned about the upper management and more questionable practices of the church as it is now. To ascend the OT levels you have to pay thousands of dollars in courses, weekly confessions (that they tape), the with hold from new members all the information on their religion, they say they are a non prejudice people but their texts state that they can lie to, sue, and destroy any of their critics (SPs), and they are favored by the U.S. government over all other religions If you wanted to convert to any other religion I'm sure you could walk into their place of worship talk with the priest or whoever you runs the place and (s) he will tell you everything about their religion, prophets, and holy book. In most cases they will let you take a copy of their holy book free of charge. For Scientology they lie to you and say they will give a free stress test, they sell you a 20 dollar pamphlet, that goes over things you already know (basic morals that you don't need religion in your life to know) and then if you say yes to all the stuff they sell you, you'll embark on a multi year long payment plan where you do all the work yourself. And only after thousands of dollars you reach OT3. At this level in the faith you are told about the intergalactic prince named Xenu. Upon getting this information you are told never to tell anyone who is below OT3 or is not a member of the church. This is displaying cult like behavior. The things leaked on the internet are just the tip of the iceberg. This is opposed to the free of charge intro and explanation of the other faiths of the world. I have no problem with the Church of Scientology existing. I just have a problem with how the faith is packed and sold to its members. What bugs me is that if you nothing of Xenu or any of the other stuff on the web now and you walked into your local church of Scientology they would not tell you about him. If you are not at the right OT level and you ask them they will lie right to your face and say that Xenu's actions is not what they believe. Other faiths will tell you all about their beliefs if you ask them and you can start doing the things you need to do if you want to join free of charge outside of buying good clothes for the event. Not only are new members lied to but the church has down things that are less than praise worthy. Some of you may know about operation Snow White. Operation Snow White - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Then of course there was the business with the IRS in the early 90s. Scientology and the IRS as their relationships stands violates the constitution of the U.S.A. but nothing about it has been done and succeeded. Other faiths around the world have done horrible things in the past; there is no reason why Scientology should have a higher standard. The difference between them and what I have a problem with is that the other faiths have stopped doing illegal activity or provide a conscious effort to try to stop corruption in their church. Scientology to the best of the public knowledge has not done so completely. That my friends is the difference between Scientology and other Religions. This is what I have such a big problem with. Once again I’m perfectly fine with the Church of Scientology existing. I have no problem with them believing in space aliens. It does not sound any wackier than what my religion says. Below are the links to the Church of Scientology’s website and the link to Anonymous’s website if you want more information. Home - Why We Protest Scientology - Church of Scientology Official Site

January 18th, 2009, 09:33 PM	#2
~~Kegluneq~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,471 Rep Power: 0 Level: EXP:	Re: My stance on Scientology I'm not sure what to say, I'm not a Scientologist, I have seen a video that wasn't in favor of it, but your post seems to say alot aboout Scientology so there's not much left to talk about. I don't think anybody on this is a Scientologist though.

January 19th, 2009, 05:50 AM	#4
VampiricVirus Nobody Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Why do you want to know? Age: 16 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 2 Level: EXP:	Re: My stance on Scientology Yeah I pretty much agree with you there. Only thing though is I don't support anonymous.

February 9th, 2009, 08:55 AM	#8
~~Charlie~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 19 Posts: 2,405 Rep Power: 0 Level: EXP:	Re: My stance on Scientology Hardly anyone remembers Greg the Bunny, until you mentioned it. Scientology is a disgrace to cults. to the human race, rather.

February 9th, 2009, 12:06 PM	#13
daxter fan Dual Wielder Join Date: May 2004 Age: 19 Posts: 589 Rep Power: 0 Level: EXP:	Re: My stance on Scientology Well I can show you differently,but I don't want to get into another religious discussion.

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