Jesus proven true

Multaxis · 02/18/08, 09:22 PM

All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

**.:EngetsuDrake:.** · 02/18/08, 09:24 PM

... Worst proof ever... No reasonable statement, no proof of the prooving material, etc...

**Karate** · 02/18/08, 11:51 PM

I believe in Jesus and I agree with the person above me.

bamak93 · 02/18/08, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Multaxis

All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

or they died because the retards in Rome labeled them as heretics for having beliefs.

Sephiros_TH · 02/19/08, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Multaxis

All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

dude romans killed anyone who didn't accept the Roman empire or their gods. Besides it has been clearly stated through many books that there is no evidence of Jesus actually existing except for in two passage in Josephus' writing, one of which was actually added by Christian transcribers later on.

Morning Twilight · 02/19/08, 01:52 AM

Yeah, that wasn't the best proof. I believe in Jesus as well and I still say it wasn't that good. It works for today's world, but back then it wasn't like it is. People were killed just for looking at someone the wrong way. It was just way different.

Actually there is a good bit of evidence that Jesus exists, I mean besides the fact that Christianity is the most common religion in the world, with Islam believing he existed as well. So saying that there is no God, and we'll say no Jesus is pretty arrogant.

Zildjian · 02/21/08, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Multaxis

All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

Amen! It's no real proof, but i don't need proof to know J-sus is G-d...

**Dogenzaka** · 02/21/08, 06:28 AM

Oh my. You have no idea what kind of flaming you're going to get for this thread.
I agree with you, but oh my.
You better get your flame-retardant undies.

And there was never any debate about Jesus existing anyway. The majority of sane scholars believe he was real and lived. Duh. It just depends upon whether he was a liar or not.

Venus Adept · 02/21/08, 12:35 PM

Well apart from Jesus having no physical record of existence in the Mediterranean around 4 AD, it's pretty hard to justify his existence. Especially with the number of historians that lived there to witness and record events that they saw.

But meh. I really don't care if he existed. I'm not Christian so it doesn't bother me at all. :l

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Originally Posted by .:EngetsuDrake:.

... Worst proof ever... No reasonable statement, no proof of the prooving material, etc...

I lol'd

Gavin · 02/21/08, 12:55 PM

And here I thought this was going to relate to the whole 'Tomb of Jesus' theory for some reason?

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Originally Posted by Multaxis

All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

As you well know, after his resurrection, Jesus ascended to heaven. Many Christians believe that this was the spiritual ascension, but his 'mortal' remains were left burried. But other Christians believe that he ascended with his mortal body to heaven.

Even if you do prove that there were sightings of a man known by the name of Jesus, for all you know it was a mere man, not some spiritual being?

Gildragon · 02/21/08, 05:19 PM

The person of Jesus that is mentioned in the Bible did exist. whetehr or not the miracles her performed were real or if he was the son of God, or whatever has not yet been proven. Actually if you look into there is more proof that the person of Jesus existed than any other historical figure that ever lived. You just have to knwo where to look. I don't have the information with me because honestly none of you would read it because it is too extensive.

Archetype00x · 02/21/08, 05:26 PM

While I agree with you that Jesus was physically alive at a point in time, I'm afraid your proof isn't very substantial. Try and you know ... at least scrounge up some physical proof.

And, by the way - many, many people die because of conspiracies.

lionheart91 · 02/21/08, 05:27 PM

No, that proves nothing.

You're full of shit, the whole lot of ye'

Phoenix · 02/21/08, 06:58 PM

Damn, I thought you had actually found something revolutionary. You are in effect saying "Here's my proof: Blargh".

Gildragon · 02/21/08, 07:09 PM

well if you want I can give you some sources it is just expansive. but to say the at least the historical figure of Jesus did not exist is just ignorance

EDIT: If you will really read the info I will post the source, but I am not going to put the actual info on the site because it would take too long

02/18/08, 09:22 PM	#1
Multaxis Heartless Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1 Rep Power: 1	Jesus proven true All of Jesus' disciples except for john all died very gruesome deaths by the Roman Empire. People dont die for some conspiracy. They do die for eyewitness action. It just shows that they actually knew Jesus and saw his miracles

02/18/08, 09:24 PM	#2
.:EngetsuDrake:. Gurren Brigade FTW! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dunno, I got lost somewhere Age: 17 Posts: 3,579 Rep Power: 7	Re: Jesus proven true ... Worst proof ever... No reasonable statement, no proof of the prooving material, etc...

02/18/08, 11:51 PM	#3
Karate PostMentalFerocity Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oh yea muthafukka. I'mma kick ya fukkin derier. Age: 21 Posts: 6,109 Rep Power: 12	Re: Jesus proven true I believe in Jesus and I agree with the person above me.

02/19/08, 01:52 AM	#6
Morning Twilight Keyblade Wielder Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 220 Rep Power: 0	Re: Jesus proven true Yeah, that wasn't the best proof. I believe in Jesus as well and I still say it wasn't that good. It works for today's world, but back then it wasn't like it is. People were killed just for looking at someone the wrong way. It was just way different. Actually there is a good bit of evidence that Jesus exists, I mean besides the fact that Christianity is the most common religion in the world, with Islam believing he existed as well. So saying that there is no God, and we'll say no Jesus is pretty arrogant.

02/21/08, 06:28 AM	#8
Dogenzaka PLATINUM USERNAME WINS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: KEYBUREDO? Graphics Clan: TheCitrusDistrict Age: 17 Posts: 8,815 Rep Power: 15	Re: Jesus proven true Oh my. You have no idea what kind of flaming you're going to get for this thread. I agree with you, but oh my. You better get your flame-retardant undies. And there was never any debate about Jesus existing anyway. The majority of sane scholars believe he was real and lived. Duh. It just depends upon whether he was a liar or not.

02/21/08, 05:19 PM	#11
Gildragon Beloved Noble Lover Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Making Out With GD Cause He's So Damn Sexy =D Age: 21 Posts: 1,987 Rep Power: 7	Re: Jesus proven true The person of Jesus that is mentioned in the Bible did exist. whetehr or not the miracles her performed were real or if he was the son of God, or whatever has not yet been proven. Actually if you look into there is more proof that the person of Jesus existed than any other historical figure that ever lived. You just have to knwo where to look. I don't have the information with me because honestly none of you would read it because it is too extensive.

02/21/08, 05:26 PM	#12
Archetype00x Organization Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Inside a bottle, set out to sea. Age: 15 Posts: 382 Rep Power: 2	Re: Jesus proven true While I agree with you that Jesus was physically alive at a point in time, I'm afraid your proof isn't very substantial. Try and you know ... at least scrounge up some physical proof. And, by the way - many, many people die because of conspiracies.

02/21/08, 05:27 PM	#13
lionheart91 Keyblade Novice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: nm Age: 17 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 4	Re: Jesus proven true No, that proves nothing. You're full of shit, the whole lot of ye'

02/21/08, 06:58 PM	#14
Phoenix Knight of Zero Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Borinquen Age: 20 Posts: 14,103 Rep Power: 21	Re: Jesus proven true Damn, I thought you had actually found something revolutionary. You are in effect saying "Here's my proof: Blargh".

02/21/08, 07:09 PM	#15
Gildragon Beloved Noble Lover Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Making Out With GD Cause He's So Damn Sexy =D Age: 21 Posts: 1,987 Rep Power: 7	Re: Jesus proven true well if you want I can give you some sources it is just expansive. but to say the at least the historical figure of Jesus did not exist is just ignorance EDIT: If you will really read the info I will post the source, but I am not going to put the actual info on the site because it would take too long Last edited by Gildragon; 02/21/08 at 07:24 PM.

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