The Bible - Gods Book or Mans?

[Forever Atlas]

The Bible is the most widely distributed Book in the world and all through history. Most people have one in their homes wether they are Christian or not. Many live their lives by the Bible's teachings, others do not. Many believe what the Bible says, others do not.

Question is: What do you think? Is the Bible a book from Mans own compositions? or is the Bible a book inspired and directed by God? Is it "God's Word"?

[Angel Shards]

Is the Qu'ran made of man's own composition, or is the word of Allah directed from the prophet Mohammad? And what about the Sanskrit texts? Are they works of the many Hindu God(dess)s themselves? When regarding whether or not the Bible is Judeo-Christian God's word, it is also best to look at other holy texts. What makes the Judeo-Christian word superior to others? Simple: nothing, other than the Christian religion dominates the world.

I believe, like other texts, it is man's writing; not some "God's". It is man's interpretation of the world with prescribed rules dictated to keep people in line, otherwise we would run amock. I also believe it was written to give superiroity to men, leaving women, cripples, and anyone who is "other" on the sidelines. I am currently taking a Women in Religion class, and it is very interesting to learn how women were treated because of man's interpretaion of what men had written. Another important note is that many of the stories in the Bible are fictional. They never happened. I will go back in my notes and find them, but I believe much of Jael and Esther is fabricated.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

Is the Qu'ran made of man's own composition, or is the word of Allah directed from the prophet Mohammad? And what about the Sanskrit texts? Are they works of the many Hindu God(dess)s themselves? When regarding whether or not the Bible is Judeo-Christian God's word, it is also best to look at other holy texts. What makes the Judeo-Christian word superior to others? Simple: nothing, other than the Christian religion dominates the world.

I believe, like other texts, it is man's writing; not some "God's". It is man's interpretation of the world with prescribed rules dictated to keep people in line, otherwise we would run amock. I also believe it was written to give superiroity to men, leaving women, cripples, and anyone who is "other" on the sidelines. I am currently taking a Women in Religion class, and it is very interesting to learn how women were treated because of man's interpretaion of what men had written. Another important note is that many of the stories in the Bible are fictional. They never happened. I will go back in my notes and find them, but I believe much of Jael and Esther is fabricated.

no, I didnt ask if those Books were written by God, im talking about the Bible.... Im not including those works. There can only be one true answer so please dont bring all this into this thread.

and if you are going on the fact that the word Bible comes from the latin Biblia meaning little books, or the fact that biblia came from biblos a part of a plant that was used to make "paper" to write on and then that thus every book comprised of little writings is a "bible" then i'll ask.... "Are the Hebrew and Christian Greek scriptures Gods words or man?"

You can only have one opinion anyway.

I PERSONALLY believe the Bible is God's word penned by men. There is no doubt in my mind. Not because I take peoples word for it, but because I have seen proof and I have done very extensive research.

Not one single person has been able to successfully disprove what the Bible says. There is more proof to its authenticity than there is that is not.

(note I did not try to change your opinions or say it was wrong so dont try change mine)

I will however post why I believe so. You all should post your reasons or proof of why you think whatever way you think too.

EDIT: SILH READ ABOVE, I DIDNT FORGET

[Silh]

Religious text is still religious text.

Not only that, but you failed to specify which bible you were referring to.

[Angel Shards]

Originally Posted by Smooth

. There can only be one true answer so please dont bring all this into this thread.

My, you are a pretentious little bastard, aren't you? Without asking, I am already assuming you are Christian...

and if you are going on the fact that the word Bible comes from the latin Biblia meaning little books,

I wasn't, but okay.

then i'll ask.... "Are the Hebrew and Christian Greek scriptures Gods words or man?"

Like I said before: Man.

You can only have one opinion anyway.

Gee, I didn't know that having different opinions was against the rules. But I forgot, you are Christian and are told to have one opinion.

[QUOTW]but because I have seen proof and I have done very extensive research.[/quote]

Oh ya? Where is this extensive reasearch then?

(note I did not try to change your opinions or say it was wrong so dont try change mine)

But you told us we could *only* have one opinion...

I will however post why I believe so. You all should post your reasons or proof of why you think whatever way you think too.

I already did, and then you went off on me for supporting my reasoning using external examples other than the Bible... Uing the Bible to prove the authenticity of the Bible does not count as "proof" that it is God's word.

[Silh]

Originally Posted by Smooth

SILH READ ABOVE, I DIDNT FORGET

I love how that originally wasn't there. (see: edit tag)

I'd contribute more but judging from your previous threads, it's pointless to even bother.

[Sephiros_TH]

Because the Bible was written by man, compiled by man, and created far after the one it is meant to revere, in fact by his enemies, it cannot be gods word. If it was gods word it would come from god out of thin air or some other miracle. The bible is a manifesto of man's own need for something to turn to when there is no answer.

[Einon SAMA]

Gee, I didn't know that having different opinions was against the rules. But I forgot, you are Christian and are told to have one opinion.

You aren't told to have one opinion, but if you follow the bible and claim to be Christian, it would be hypocritical of you to have multiple opinions.

Because the Bible was written by man, compiled by man, and created far after the one it is meant to revere, in fact by his enemies, it cannot be gods word. If it was gods word it would come from god out of thin air or some other miracle. The bible is a manifesto of man's own need for something to turn to when there is no answer.

Why wont you leave your arrogant opinions that you claim to be fact out of this? Its annoying.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

My, you are a pretentious little bastard, aren't you? Without asking, I am already assuming you are Christian....

I am assuming you are atheist

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

Gee, I didn't know that having different opinions was against the rules. But I forgot, you are Christian and are told to have one opinion.

The Bible actually says to prove for yourself what is true. Not to just follow blindly people or things.

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

Oh ya? Where is this extensive reasearch then?

It has been done over many years. However, if i showed you the facts, chances are you would still find fault with it solely because you dont want to believe.... and thats okay. We are all entitled to our beliefs.

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

But you told us we could *only* have one opinion... .

As in you can only believe that the Bible is Gods Word or its man... you cant believe both.

Originally Posted by Angel Shards

I already did, and then you went off on me for supporting my reasoning using external examples other than the Bible... Uing the Bible to prove the authenticity of the Bible does not count as "proof" that it is God's word.

I can use MANY MANY outside sources other than the Bible to prove its authenticity. Thats one of the ways i proved it to myself... but question... would you really believe the light is red if you cant see color?

[bond of flames]

Originally Posted by Smooth

The Bible is the most widely distributed Book in the world and all through history. Most people have one in their homes wether they are Christian or not. Many live their lives by the Bible's teachings, others do not. Many believe what the Bible says, others do not.

Question is: What do you think? Is the Bible a book from Mans own compositions? or is the Bible a book inspired and directed by God? Is it "God's Word"?

ive talked to my mom about this

we never get to one set point, but who does.

i mean, i personally beleive its all on faith.
we dont know if the bible was made by men, or influenced by god
so it all depends on if u have or put enough faith in the fact that u beleive one or the other


thats what i think

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by bond of flames

ive talked to my mom about this

we never get to one set point, but who does.

i mean, i personally beleive its all on faith.
we dont know if the bible was made by men, or influenced by god
so it all depends on if u have or put enough faith in the fact that u beleive one or the other


thats what i think

thats good that you think about it. Most people wouldnt even go that far lol. You ever done research on it? I used to not believe what the Bible said... to be honest =/ i was one to question its every word. But then I did my research and got into activities that made me see what i see now.

Cause faith..... (no offense to anyone) is pointless if you have no true basis or backing on your faith

[bond of flames]

Originally Posted by Smooth

thats good that you think about it. Most people wouldnt even go that far lol. You ever done research on it? I used to not believe what the Bible said... to be honest =/ i was one to question its every word. But then I did my research and got into activities that made me see what i see now.

Cause faith..... (no offense to anyone) is pointless if you have no true basis or backing on your faith

nope, never done research.

im not into any one religion, im open to all of em.i guess that makes me agnostic?
but my moms always forcing me to go to church and i always tell her i dont think i sohld be forced to go to one kind of church but she never listens haha


and i simply say that all religion, in my opinion, is based on faith, and she instantly goes on the offencive



srry, a bit off topic hahaha
just felt like sharing that

[Angel Shards]

The Bible actually says to prove for yourself what is true. Not to just follow blindly people or things.

Yet many religious followers still follow blindly... :\

However, if i showed you the facts, chances are you would still find fault with it solely because you dont want to believe....

I would still like to see an example of said research, if you don't mind.

As in you can only believe that the Bible is Gods Word or its man... you cant believe both.

Say someone believed it was God's word tranlsated by man? Is that not allowed either? See, humans are not perfect and often change things based on their own interpretation or in order to gain control (ie. King James transltion of the Bible...). So someone can't believe that?

I can use MANY MANY outside sources other than the Bible to prove its authenticity. Thats one of the ways i proved it to myself... but question... would you really believe the light is red if you cant see color?

Clearly this is a win-lose situation in your favour. Bad analogy. Please, give me an outside source to prove it's authenticity. I'm dying to see your research, because, so far, you have put me down for using outside sources.

[Dark-Disciple]

Originally Posted by bond of flames

i mean, i personally beleive its all on faith.
we dont know if the bible was made by men, or influenced by god
so it all depends on if u have or put enough faith in the fact that u beleive one or the other

Quoted for truth.
I agree with you man. It's all about faith.
It has been stated over and over that also most of the things in the bible are more about the essence behind it's teachings, rather than using it as a literal account of how things "are" or "happened".
Remember, it's a sacred book supposedly enlightened by God to the writers of such accounts. Nothing more.

I see it as a holy book for the purpose of teaching Man the ways of God^

[risingfalls]

Well, I'm a Christian, so I kinda sorta have to believe that the word of God is just that, the word of God delivered through divine inspiration....blah blah blah, you know the rest.
Tis just what I believe.
And I agree with Dark Disciple and Bond of Flames, it is a matter of faith.