The Bible - Gods Book or Mans?

[IDX Rider]

Originally Posted by Smooth

Also Christianity (true Christianity) knows that God does have a name... "God" is just a title you are right. But the Bible uses Gods true name thousands and thousands of times over..... you say we havent read the Bible.... but you missed out that fact... so i must ask you... have you read it?

Aaaaand there you go :D! So like I said, I was responding to this here.

[risingfalls]

Originally Posted by Einon SAMA

While it is possible that there COULD have been misinterpretations of the original meaning, it doesn't mean there HAS been.

There most likely are misinterpretations of the original meaning of the word. I mean, roughly, the Bible has been translated from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, to Greek again, back to Latin, to German, to King James English, to NIV, to the Teen Spirit Bible or some other random title for one of the 100 types of Bibles that have to exist today.
Not to mention you have Bibles in pretty much every language on Earth nowadays. Translations of some words/phrases are very difficult to convey in different languages, so maybe it affected the meaning.
It's highly unlikely that there hasn't been some sort of misinterpretation.
I don't think that it affects the overall meaning of the Bible, but sometimes its the little things that count.

[IDX Rider]

Originally Posted by Smooth

yeah I already answered it in the comment before xDDDDD

Gah! Man this is confusing me. Let's just forget the whole thing about that.

Anyways, I haven't read the entire Bible so I wouldn't know. But most things that are used to prophecize are usually nothing but symbols. Like comparing that mountains will fall with the 9/11 attack. I don't consider that a prophecy being fulfilled. I would just say, "You're using that as an invalid reason for your ridiculous prophecy!" or something like that.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by IDX Rider

Gah! Man this is confusing me. Let's just forget the whole thing about that.

Anyways, I haven't read the entire Bible so I wouldn't know. But most things that are used to prophecize are usually nothing but symbols. Like comparing that mountains will fall with the 9/11 attack. I don't consider that a prophecy being fulfilled. I would just say, "You're using that as an invalid reason for your ridiculous prophecy!" or something like that.

true, even the Bible said that false Prophets would arise and mislead many. So yeah, there are lies out there no doubt. and there are many coincidences no doubt. but i have proved the accuracy of the Bible to myself.... thats for me... and im willing to share with others who really want to know, but not really enthusiastic about sharing with others who just want to find fault with what i say or what the Bible says.

[.:EngetsuDrake:.]

Originally Posted by Smooth

I've read it and millions of others have, hence the reason we believe... not just reading studying. Also Christianity (true Christianity) knows that God does have a name... "God" is just a title you are right. But the Bible uses Gods true name thousands and thousands of times over..... you say we havent read the Bible.... but you missed out that fact... so i must ask you... have you read it?

I´ve never said that you hadn´t read it, nor did I say I had read it. I plan on doing it for fun and knows two that have done it. ...True Christianity? So you mean there is one right Christianity while the others are wrong? Oh, and back up your statement and tell me Gods real name (I´m just gonna ignore the fact that you avoided my question).

Religon is created by man to pach up what man can´t understand. In diffrent times and places religon has been diffrent becuse of there are other unexplainable thing and less contact between people.

OPINION: Atheism is the only true religion since it is not an religion.

Fact: My bible I have in my hand says Kryos, not Cyrus= it was changed to fit history.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by .:EngetsuDrake:.

I´ve never said that you hadn´t read it, nor did I say I had read it. I plan on doing it for fun and knows two that have done it. ...True Christianity? So you mean there is one right Christianity while the others are wrong? Oh, and back up your statement and tell me Gods real name (I´m just gonna ignore the fact that you avoided my question).

Religon is created by man to pach up what man can´t understand. In diffrent times and places religon has been diffrent becuse of there are other unexplainable thing and less contact between people.

OPINION: Atheism is the only true religion since it is not an religion.

Fact: My bible I have in my hand says Kryos, not Cyrus= it was changed to fit history.

well as i stated before there are many versions of the Bible that have deviated from the original text. Look up Kryos in a secular source and see how much you find... but look up Cyrus and see that too.

Also, no one can be forced to believe anything. If you dont want to believe hey... thats all good. No one can make you either. thats why we have free will. :-D

Originally Posted by .:EngetsuDrake:.

I just don´t get how it people can call it an holy book when they haven´t read it. And another fun question someone should answer. Christianity have an nameless god, but why do we spell it with an capital G it he is nameless?

you said people who havent read it... so sorry i assumed

[.:EngetsuDrake:.]

Originally Posted by Smooth

well as i stated before there are many versions of the Bible that have deviated from the original text. Look up Kryos in a secular source and see how much you find... but look up Cyrus and see that too.

Also, no one can be forced to believe anything. If you dont want to believe hey... thats all good. No one can make you either. thats why we have free will. :-D

Actually that was my point...

I know, but I don´t like that most active religus poeple tries to convince they are right. I think it´s fine to belive in something but don´t mix it up with other stuff and accept faults. That´s my problem with religon. Humans aren´t perfect and they have a need to konw and that´s why they belive. For example if someoe told you all your life that the stars where crystals and no one else told you any diffrent you wuld belive it becuse that is the only thing that you know and it seems to work in reality.

What you belive is your problem but don´t bring it to me...

(I´m just making an asumtion on ppl, don´t take it personally)

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by .:EngetsuDrake:.

Actually that was my point...

I know, but I don´t like that most active religus poeple tries to convince they are right. I think it´s fine to belive in something but don´t mix it up with other stuff and accept faults. That´s my problem with religon. Humans aren´t perfect and they have a need to konw and that´s why they belive. For example if someoe told you all your life that the stars where crystals and no one else told you any diffrent you wuld belive it becuse that is the only thing that you know and it seems to work in reality.

What you belive is your problem but don´t bring it to me...

(I´m just making an asumtion on ppl, don´t take it personally)

thats true... but if there was one truth out there wouldnt you want to know? I mean would you rather be lied to about something and in the end be hurt by it? or would you rather know the truth about something and benefit by it?

Now please dont take that as me saying I am right and everyone else is wrong... im just using an analogy. Cause what if.... just what if there was one right religion out there out of all the many... what they know could save us.... or suppose all religions were wrong.... but the fact is... there is one truth.... everything has 1 absolute truth, wether is has been proven or not.

[.:EngetsuDrake:.]

I don´t really ceare for one truth and that stuff. We can´t know what happens after we die until we die so I´m gonna live my life here until I die and not think abut what eventually is going to happen becuse I don´t have to. I´m gonna die that´s the only certain thing in life and that is what I belive in. I don´t need more than that.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by .:EngetsuDrake:.

I don´t really ceare for one truth and that stuff. We can´t know what happens after we die until we die so I´m gonna live my life here until I die and not think abut what eventually is going to happen becuse I don´t have to. I´m gonna die that´s the only certain thing in life and that is what I belive in. I don´t need more than that.

but no offense, thats kinda close minded... cause what if you didnt have to die? Personally, i believe that not all of us are going to die that are living now. Sure the eventuality of everyone is death. and no one knows when we are going to die.... but personally, i believe from the scriptures that not everyone is going to die, and even many who are going to die will be resurrected. and once again i believe many of these things cause of the accuracy of the BIble that i have proven to myself.

but then again lol its cool im not gonna push anything on u.. just letting my opinions and thoughts out like we all do ^^

ALSO SOME SCIENTIFIC TRUTHS IN THE BIBLE:

Its contents are scientifically sound on matters that human researchers discovered only at a later date

Origin of the Universe: Gen. 1:1: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” In 1978, astronomer Robert Jastrow wrote: “Now we see how the astronomical evidence leads to a biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy.”—God and the Astronomers (New York, 1978), p. 14.

Shape of Planet Earth: Isa. 40:22: “There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth.” In ancient times the general opinion was that the earth was flat. It was not until over 200 years after this Bible text had been written that a school of Greek philosophers reasoned that the earth likely was spherical, and in about another 300 years a Greek astronomer calculated the approximate radius of the earth. But the idea of a spherical earth was not the general view even then. Only in the 20th century has it been possible for humans to travel by airplane, and later into outer space and even to the moon, thus giving them a clear view of “the circle” of earth’s horizon.

Animal Life: Lev. 11:6: “The hare . . . is a chewer of the cud.” Though this was long attacked by some critics, the rabbit’s cud chewing was finally observed by Englishman William Cowper in the 18th century. The unusual way in which it is done was described in 1940 in Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, Vol. 110, Series A, pp. 159-163.

[IDX Rider]

I'm not sure what I believe when it comes to death. When I say we die, I mean we die. As in we are no longer alive. But if I truly believed in life after death, I would say the obvious thing that our souls live on. I personally am not bothered with life after death or Heaven or Hell. But I won't rule out the possibility that it might exist. If they do, I know where I'll be going and I accepted that. If you need a hint, I've already been excommunicated from the Catholic church lol. I just live my life and help those who can't help themselves when I'm in the mood or have nothing better to do. But I have wondered that maybe one of the many religions is the real one. I remember getting into it with a Jehovah's Witness in a different forum about something like this. He says that all who worship a false god are damned to Hell. But what about Buddhist monks? I don't know how they all are, but the one's I've met are like the nicest people I've ever met. So you're telling me that they're damned just because they don't worship God? And on and on we went. But they way he was describing his interpretation of God made me think that God sounds like nothing more than a little kid who gets fussy when he's not getting attention.

Did you know that in the Bible that it says that having sex with more than one woman is okay in one section, but it says it's not in another unless it's your spouse? I thought it was pretty hilarious myself.

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by IDX Rider

I'm not sure what I believe when it comes to death. When I say we die, I mean we die. As in we are no longer alive. But if I truly believed in life after death, I would say the obvious thing that our souls live on. I personally am not bothered with life after death or Heaven or Hell. But I won't rule out the possibility that it might exist. If they do, I know where I'll be going and I accepted that. If you need a hint, I've already been excommunicated from the Catholic church lol. I just live my life and help those who can't help themselves when I'm in the mood or have nothing better to do. But I have wondered that maybe one of the many religions is the real one. I remember getting into it with a Jehovah's Witness in a different forum about something like this. He says that all who worship a false god are damned to Hell. But what about Buddhist monks? I don't know how they all are, but the one's I've met are like the nicest people I've ever met. So you're telling me that they're damned just because they don't worship God? And on and on we went. But they way he was describing his interpretation of God made me think that God sounds like nothing more than a little kid who gets fussy when he's not getting attention.

Did you know that in the Bible that it says that having sex with more than one woman is okay in one section, but it says it's not in another unless it's your spouse? I thought it was pretty hilarious myself.

chances are that was what is called an "Apostate Jehovah's Witness" that run rampant thru the internet... cause for one... real Jehovah's Witnesses dont believe in a hell as such. and they would not act in the way you have described.

those Apostates main purpose is to twist the teachings of the real ones and to spread lies and slander the name of the orginization. Some of them may have been before, but they were removed as a member because of their unchristian life.

[IDX Rider]

I guess you live and learn huh? I had no idea there were called that. He wasn't at all popular on the forum and whenever me or another would ask him a question, he would respond with a scripture from the Bible. I was like, honestly. Are you incapable of forming your own thesis without hiding behind the Bible like a coward?

[Forever Atlas]

Originally Posted by IDX Rider

I guess you live and learn huh? I had no idea there were called that. He wasn't at all popular on the forum and whenever me or another would ask him a question, he would respond with a scripture from the Bible. I was like, honestly. Are you incapable of forming your own thesis without hiding behind the Bible like a coward?

well what i say comes straight from the BIble, but yeah there are those people out there. i suggest if you want info on what Jehovah's Witnesses really believe or w/e i suggest you ask them directly... if they come to your door or you can contact them directly. thats only if you want. cause im sure you might have a lot of misconceptions about them because of that guy and possibly others.

This Site ONLY and those directly linked to it. All the rest are probably those apostate ones. This is the official where u can get more info or contact information:
Jehovah's Witnesses: Watchtower Society Official Web Site

Also as for what u said earlier, the Bible doesnt just condemn everyone that doesnt know God. If God had already judged everyone then we'd def. know by means of destruction. He's giving us time. Thats why the Bible also promises a resurrection of the righteous as well as the unrighteous, those who did not serve God cause he didnt know him.

[Zildjian]

The Bible is 100000000% G-d's word....and those of us here who dont believe so, may G-d be with them...