What does the Bible say about same sex marriage?

[JustSnilloc]

The point of this comparison being? They each have features, some negative, some positive, some neutral, some insignificant.

The point being: "inherent" things, and things that are a "part of who you are" aren't how you have to be, there is a varying percentage of choice involved with such things

If they're not all that big, why would they control you over your predominating heterosexual or neutral proclivities? Furthermore, why should you work on overcoming the homosexual ones in particular? The heterosexual inclinations have a much better chance of ruling you, and if it's truly homosexual attributes you're worried about, they're an unchanging part of you. The only way they could be changed is if they turned out to instead be fetishes, or you were tortured/had brain surgery to try and remove those inclinations.

Well my personal problems (unrelated to sexuality) usually make it hard for people to function normally in society, so they're big problems (one's that I'll always have), I've just worked hard on overcoming them. I do occasionally have homosexual desires, but it's never been anything major nor something I've ever acted on *shrugs*

The reason that a person would want to work out homosexual attributes outside of biblical principals is non-existent. In fact, I completely understand why people don't see it as an issue outside the bible. However, within the bible a person would want to work them out for obvious reasons. In the same way, there are plenty of heterosexual issues people may have to work out too (sleeping around, etc.)

[Orion]

The point being: "inherent" things, and things that are a "part of who you are" aren't how you have to be, there is a varying percentage of choice involved with such things

Perhaps, but you're harming yourself if you try to deny that part of you to the extent that you want it gone. You'd give yourself much less trouble and not to mention be honest to yourself if you actually explore that side of yourself.

[MegaWallflower]

And wouldn't that be football on Sundays, not Saturdays?

Isn't the Sabbath Saturday?

Also, it's hard to say lying is inherently wrong when I can think of at least one instance where lying saved the protagonists in the bible.

And really, there are some sins that people try to ignore as a part of life now in society, homosexuality isn't even one of the one you choose to do out of free will. You decide to steal or lie or cheat, that is a conscious decision. I don't know anyone who just decided their sexuality. It's like deciding your gender(ignoring the surgical way to change that).

But I don't really belong in religious debate anyway, so that's all I'm going to say. bye~

[Cosmic+Amarna]

Isn't the Sabbath Saturday?

Also, it's hard to say lying is inherently wrong when I can think of at least one instance where lying saved the protagonists in the bible.

And really, there are some sins that people try to ignore as a part of life now in society, homosexuality isn't even one of the one you choose to do out of free will. You decide to steal or lie or cheat, that is a conscious decision. I don't know anyone who just decided their sexuality. It's like deciding your gender(ignoring the surgical way to change that).

I think it's what would be Friday actually

I get what you are saying, you too Orion, that lying may not be inherently bad/wrong and that it depends on context.

But so then if that's the case^, which it is, it just goes to show the inconsistency again in the bible, which leads people to misinterps. Thou shall not lie is one of the ten commandments, yet like she just said to lie was a necessity for survival in that instance. There's always exceptions/ it depends on context of the instance even within the bible. There are times when prophets and other biblical figures slaughtered many people, women and children--but it's ok that was an exception? Almost every sin besides 1.idol worship/other deity and 2.denial of God has had exceptions made for it, even in the bible and 'the history of Christianity'. The point is too that different specific sins get mentioned as the worst and unforgivable, so it's silly for humans to judge and nitpick other people's sins. People also need to realize what I just said, that the bible is filled with instances where sin is made exception for whatever reason, which can be called inconsistency.

Another thing so many Christians don't realize or comprehend is that many of them do idol worship. If you have a cross and it's decoration or meant for artistic purpose that is fine, but if you pray to a cross or image of Jesus/Mary, really any thing or anybody, you are idol worshiping. God makes it clear that not even God is to have any material or physical representation. So if you pray with or to anything other than your mind, you are idol worshiping. Nothing in the heavens or earth is to be made into an item or object of worship, neither am I your Lord. Most Muslims understand and realize this while only some Christians do.

This is kinda a spin off of what Snilloc mentioned. So then if we were to look at something like mental aliment/disease/malfunction and make it analogous to homosexuality, some difficulties arise. To say that w/ out a doubt homosexuality is something that can be mentally altered and changed because some mental disorders can be, such as ocd, other social disorders, etc. is a stretch. Just as some of the others on here have said. But so then if we view homosexuals as those whose sin has saturated them so that they are unforgivable, even though it may be something that they truly can not change or alter; then the exact same could be said of people with mental disorders/malfunctions. They too are saturated with unforgivable sin. Why? Because King Solomon worshipped (an)other deity(s) to please his wife and because of this he became insane. He went crazy and you could call it schizophrenia or some other mental disorder. So those who get mental disease/disorder are sinners because they worshiped false gods at some point and that's just what happens because of that, the bible says so.

So once again to reiterate, those who think that homosexuals are 'going to hell/or are damned, or are a sinful person'(solely bcus of their sexual orientation) you are most certainly wrong, and you can not delegate on behalf of God. Your own religion denounces and disapproves of your conjecture, you are no less guilty than any other of these human beings, you all share the same, Because you came from ONE Person(Adam). Those who use religion in such ways are those who do not understand.

[Eraser Rain]

The way I see it, I don't think homosexuality by itself should be written as a sin, just homosex itself. From a Christian's point of view, sex should only be used as a method of reproduction, not pleasure. Since homosexual sex pretty much has no chance of leading to reproduction, anyone doing it will probably be doing it out of pleasure.

That's my interpretation, anyways. Probably one of the only reasonable things I learned in Religion class :x

[Cosmic+Amarna]

The way I see it, I don't think homosexuality by itself should be written as a sin, just homosex itself. From a Christian's point of view, sex should only be used as a method of reproduction, not pleasure. Since homosexual sex pretty much has no chance of leading to reproduction, anyone doing it will probably be doing it out of pleasure.

That's my interpretation, anyways. Probably one of the only reasonable things I learned in Religion class :x

Sex is not solely for reproduction, the bible even says otherwise.