Conversation Between quiteMAD and Solar

Oh ok that's cool too.

But yeah, the last few times I saw someone reworked the "boy with a giant robot", they were met with relative success among the young adult crowd. Frank Miller even did his take on the genre with a mixed homage to Astro Boy and Gigantor, called "The Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot", and it was NOTHING like what you'd expect from Frank Miller. Super colorful, light hearted, and filled with detailed art. Though still really bloody and violent haha.

Nah, I just respect your opinions on comics. But if you have the time then that'd be neato.

Hmmmm. It's a very solid concept, especially as a short story. Anything too long could become stale, I think. But yeah, I can dig it. Are you asking me to help you conceptualize it? Because I'd be totally up for it after I finish my current projects.

need your opinion on a comic-book concept:

The idea of a boy and his mecha really fascinate me, both east and western takes on such stories. I was thinking something along the lines of The Iron Giant meets Death Note: a boy comes across this robot he forms a mental connection with. The large, humanoid machine itself not sentient and the initial connection flooding the protagonist with a series of cryptic imagery that become relevant later. So he can control this machine with his mind, greater distances making it harder to do so.

The thing is, this mech is like a child: it learns through the experience gained by when its being controlled. When the connection is "turned off" (not really severed but more like muted), based on said experience, the robot becomes 'independant'. Eventually, the boy and it form a bond but like, imagine trying to do your homework/balancing highschool drama/not getting in trouble with the law when you're navigating this robot all the time or when you're at a dance and suddenly the robot's about to tango with godzilla or some shit

idk

fyeah killing joke

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AAAUUGGHH eeewwlkj;af stories where everyone acts all happy and perfect creep the hell out of me. lol When everyone else is smiling, and you aren't, you know there's something malicious going down. So if we do something like that, I'd want to just push it to straight up horror if that's possible. And whenever I think about a whole group of people acting like that, I as the watcher/reader feel the urge to just punch them until they snap out of it. So can see the protagonist that doesn't buy into it trying that, and the guy's just chuckling at him with "boy oh boy you're a lively one aren't you?" while bloods just pouring down his nose and mouth and just ugghhh it's already creeping me out. But the more I think about it, I can see this being one arc in a series of strange tales revolving around this(these) detective(s). This is a very viable option.

Though I don't think it's adaptable to a comic, I have an idea better highlighting this. It's kind of like The Unwritten meets Alice in Wonderland (writer drops into the highly fantastical world of his stories, shit)

Actually that kinda reminds me of Cool World, which I watched recently. It was horribly done, but the idea of a creator sucked into the world he created is intriguing. Anything morbid, surreal, etc I will most certainly have alot of fun with (which will result in a better product). So dreams and the supernatural are more ideal than anything else.

But still, any ideas on the table are great, and I'd like to see them. Never know what could click.

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Yeah, I was thinking that too. If you want drugs then this reminds me of another detective story in my head kind of inspired from Blue Velvet. There's been a suicide in their city, big drop, and the teenager who's died has connections to a really small town, difficult to find. The place is really campy and conforms to virtually every stereotype and archetype shown in old-school daytime comedies. Meanwhile, there's a side story about the kid who committed suicide in the past tense and his life and reasons so. Anyway, it's pretty surreal because these are noir-ish, pulp detectives, in this town of weirdly rigidly conforming roles (Do you watch anime? Go watch Another if you haven't already, similar idea with kids and adults acting fine and censoring each other, rigidly obeying rules when there's something clearly amiss). But as tension gives up, and again, playing with sad honesty and disturbing themes is that one of the two detectives "falls in love" with one of the woman there and slowly becomes "brainwashed" too (this is basically his mental breakdown--his repressed longing for this idyllic, though unnatural, way of living as compared to the urban harshness of reality) and tries to kill his friend. He may even succeed, idk about that, but essentially the detective finds out the town is controlled by once outcast, brilliant, kid who is a puppeteer using airborne narcotics (they literally get addicted to air, he withdraws, shit goes bad, he controls the place) to dominate the people. It's implied that the side-story all along has been about the antagonist, or if the puppeteer is older, his son. Idk, I think that can be reworked into something more supernatural.

As for the first idea, yeah, I was thinking that too so I guess it could move away from supernatural and more to lit or art themes (not classic lit, mind you) but I guess this whole idea that what you create is a part of you and yet isn't, and the responsibility we have to our creation, as well as its power. Though I don't think it's adaptable to a comic, I have an idea better highlighting this. It's kind of like The Unwritten meets Alice in Wonderland (writer drops into the highly fantastical world of his stories, shit)

also i have another idea that's totally unrelated to any of these

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Now I love the idea of a supernatural noire style story, and have actually been working on some concepts for one myself (have gotten no further than the detective and his "moriarty". I will say though, Neil Gaiman's Sandman left such a huge impact on the comic community that it would be literally impossible to do a story about "dreams" and "deities" in the same context without getting accused of ripping off Gaiman. And at the same time, Hellblazer and BPRD have the market cornered in supernatural noire. But that's not to say I don't think we can make this work, it just needs some tweeks. I've seen several attempts to work mythology into modern day, and very few get picked up. Though the one that did is getting a movie, so...I guess there's that.

I'd also like to stray away from themes that are being used in my Disturbia story. That one's too important to cross streams, we've been building on it for years. So basically, no characters/monsters from English lit. Anyway, here's an example of the detective I mentioned earlier.
Rejected Masque Audition by *heartless-nobody on deviantART
This comic is dated, and only the detective is even remotely worth saving.
As for the "moriarty" type character, it's a man in a black bowler hat and black bandages over the top part of his face. His specialties are in hallucinogenic drugs and the occult.

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Ode to Sherlock and both urban and cultural folklore, two rather polarizing references. Our hero is a failing author who moves into a rather dececript apartment by noticing a rather intriguing offer for a roomate. His roomate is Morpheus, smooth-John Constatine/Sherlock-ish dude who's the Greek god of Dreams. He follows and sees dreams, returns them to their owners, does dream interpretation/therapy and generally solves mystery via interactions with dreams (such as seeing the shadows of dreams of people, buildings, cats, sidewalks, etc). Our Watson figure, the author, kind of dismisses it all as he ought to but as his ideas from his notebook (for writing ideas) disappear, he learns his dreams are "running off" (dreams are intangible but solid objects in "supernatural" world) and he joins Morph on his adventures to regain his ideas/dreams.

We can throw in some nice themes about the nature of art and inspiration, myths, a daylight noir-ish feel, plus the whole "supernatural/cult" detective story angle as the two delve deeper into an overarching plot. A hypothetical twist ending, and a rather brutally honest take on these dreams (and a sad moment on Morph and all myth's vulnerability) is when Morph admits he's the one who got rid of author's dreams and he's one of his characters, too, in fact: he planted the dreams of the mysteries in their head (so he's kinda like a mashup of Tyler Durden/a Muse? But also a piece of the author's artistic creation) and caused an essential goose chase. This part can be negotiated but I think it'd be cool that Morph is an aspect and the author's interpretation of the actual god and the chase was to sustain his existence a bit longer, by being around myths and dreams