Conversation Between lil'Von and XIII Heartless

Uhh no. If you think being alone is all that makes Peter a tragic hero, you have grossly misunderstood his character and there's really no need for us to continue. As I just mentioned, most incarnations of Spider-Man nowadays reveal themselves to Mary Jane a lot sooner than he did in the 616 universe because most people agree that that was ridiculously drawn out. None of these Spider-Man's (namely the Ultimate version) become any less tragic because of it. If anything, they become even more so since now they have to worry about their lives as well as their own even more. Hell, even the new Spider-Man, Miles Morales, confided in his best friend, and he just took his first real step towards becoming a tragic hero in this month's issue. And are you forgetting the fact that Gwen Stacy is forever fated to die? So even this movie's Spidey isn't about to stop being down on his luck.

You act as if Peter revealing himself removes the tragedies of his past (abandonment, Uncle Ben's death, etc.) Is Batman any less tragic because Alfred knows his secret?

So your argument holds no water. If you prefer Peter keeping the secret completely to himself, fine. That's your opinion. But don't state it as a fact that it removes his status as a tragic hero when there is tons of evidence that flat out disproves this.

Their is plenty wrong with Peter revealing himself to Gwen. It takes away the whole "tragic hero" bit that makes him so popular, & differentiates him from other heroes. Spider-man is much like the greek Titan Atlus, He has the whole world on his shoulders and noone to confine in With Stacey Gwen knowing his identity he has someone to share that burden with.

And no, Garfield played Parker much more akin to the comics than Tobey did. We actually see him being intelligent (never saw Tobey doing this, we were always just told that he was brilliant without actually seeing it for ourselves). Peter's supposed to be an outsider, which Garfield nailed; and he also hit the awkwardness perfectly. And he wisecracked? Yeah, no, Tobey does nothing for me in the role.

There's nothing wrong with Peter revealing himself to Gwen. Hell, it's often been said that Peter revealing himself to Mary Jane was dragged out way longer than it needed to be in the comics, which is why recent incarnations (like the Ultimate comics) have him revealing himself very early on in his career. It doesn't take away any from everything he has to go through as Spider-Man, and seeing as how this is a movie adaptation that probably can't count on having more than two or three sequels, there's no sense in dragging it out here either. It was handled just fine. Seeing as how Gwen's likely going to be killed in the next movie or so, he's got plenty of other trials coming his way. As for everyone hating him....well, if that's why you hated the movie, I don't even know what to say to that. He's a vigilante, it's to be expected.

Also Andrew Garfield gives off way to much of a hipster type swag to play Peter Parker, though casting i suppose is just personnel preference

Well the film made me realize why i love spider-man so much, their are very few people who know the duality of Spider-man/peter parker, and the fact Gwen learns of Spider-mans identity really upset me because it gives peter/Spider-man someone to carry his burden, someone to lean on if you will, obviously Mary Jane finds out who he is much later on & many villians do as well depending on the continuality. The reason i disliked it is because EVERYONE hates spider-man he is constantly portrayed as a vigilante by media the media and the police, the opinion of the public is constantly swayed back and forth & yet despite this he always does whats right, now this can be said for other heroes as well but the majority of heroes have moral support from some supporting cast member from the get-go but not Peter, for a long time noone knows the trials and tribulations that his duality go through and while Peter may be given moral support from aunt may or other cast members, none of them truly understand what he goes through so their advice is always from the perspective of Peter not spider-man. This new movie broke that tradition waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to damn early. Also the plot was horridly predictable, im really referring to the death of Gwen's father :/

The hell were you upset about? Other than the poor representation of the Lizard, it was a solid film.

just saw the new spider man movie, was pretty upset after watching, remembered you were just as big a Spidey fan as myself, have you seen it? If so i forsee a long intelligent discussion ahead.

Tell me why I saw the same time the commercial came on? -_____-
ninja, I'll kill you!!! >:(
Lol I'll be able to play Wednesday, no big really.

This game is like sex on disc... wait did i just compare it to porn???