Avatar: The Last Air Bender

[Takuya]

Originally Posted by keyblademaster42

i just wanted to point out that Jet is dead he died in Ba sing sa in was confirmed by the creaters a convention

Yeah, I already got that a few posts ago... thanks anyway. Editing post now.

[Twilight93]

Well I REALLY don't feel like reading 6 pages worth of praising and theorising (actually, I'm just too lazy to read 6 pages period) so I'm just going to say it was a great finale, they couldn't have done it in a better way. The music that played between Azula vs Zuko and Aang vs Pheonix King (:D) was awesome. I loled when it played when the Aang and Pheonix battle started, thought it was the FF7 Sephiorth theme! When Zuko asked about his mother, I thought he was going to say like "Where's the real last airbender"? Or "Where's the last lightning bender"? Last of something. I thought that Aang's decision to take away the fire bending was the best and the Lion turtle thing was alittle........weird. Oh and I feel really bad for Azula. That whole beach episode won me over. But the Zuko/Iroh scene..beautiful.

Well I was going to say that an Air Nomad would eventually appear since an Air Avatar would be needed, but Ithink the chain of Avatars is done since Aang was "killed" in the Avatar State. But it's possible an Airbender would eventually appear even if not by Katara and Aang, maybe thier great-grandchild will end up bending air in their front lawn. It's possible the bending abilities could travel via genes.

[Pianoajd2]

Originally Posted by kingdomfighter5

I enjoyed it unforutanetly nickelodeon has no more good shows.

WHAT?! Spongebob is pretty good! And that should last them another 20 years![/sarcasm]

I have to agree with you there though. Avatar brought in all kinds of audiences. The young and the old. It was very original.

Can't wait for the next story!

[Mellow Nova]

ok so please excuse my cursing, but that was...****ing epic

[risingfalls]

^Don't worry, the cursing was called for.
I don't know how the writer's of the show will top that, with all this talk of a new story.

[All-Star Gamer]

It just finished, and I've got to say, it was off the chain.



COME BACK AANG! COME BACK ZUKO!!! DON'T LEAVE US WITH SUCKY SHOWS!!!!

[.:[Kazuma]:.]

Originally Posted by Twilight93

Well I REALLY don't feel like reading 6 pages worth of praising and theorising (actually, I'm just too lazy to read 6 pages period) so I'm just going to say it was a great finale, they couldn't have done it in a better way. The music that played between Azula vs Zuko and Aang vs Pheonix King (:D) was awesome. I loled when it played when the Aang and Pheonix battle started, thought it was the FF7 Sephiorth theme! When Zuko asked about his mother, I thought he was going to say like "Where's the real last airbender"? Or "Where's the last lightning bender"? Last of something. I thought that Aang's decision to take away the fire bending was the best and the Lion turtle thing was alittle........weird. Oh and I feel really bad for Azula. That whole beach episode won me over. But the Zuko/Iroh scene..beautiful.

Well I was going to say that an Air Nomad would eventually appear since an Air Avatar would be needed, but Ithink the chain of Avatars is done since Aang was "killed" in the Avatar State. But it's possible an Airbender would eventually appear even if not by Katara and Aang, maybe thier great-grandchild will end up bending air in their front lawn. It's possible the bending abilities could travel via genes.

Bahh Katara should have finished off Azula..........I hate that little bitch(should of fell all the way down that cliff).Thats the only thing that i didn't like about it though. But overall it was flawless and couldn't have been better. Though it would be cool it Aang learn how to do lightning and blue fire bending. The Azula fight was epic though,and I loved the music. Don't get me wrong the Aang and Ozi fight was good too. It was funny when Aang came out of that rubble and grabbed the firelords beard. And when he circled himself in the elements;but I would still like to know what happened to Zuko's mom.Ending with Aang and Katara kissing was good way to end it. But Aang still should of finished off the Ozi with all the shit he caused. Come on now Aang you could of finished him with that lightning.

It should be set in the past to me and set at the time of Roku; show how it lead up to the beginning of the war.(the new show there doing).....naw the future would be better...300 years in the future????? :3

[All-Star Gamer]

Aang only knows how to redirect lightning. He doesn't know how to use it.

And Aang isn't a killer. It's his character.

[.:[Kazuma]:.]

^ hey I'm just saying after all that shit he should die, thats like letting Hitler live if he didn't kill himself after the war. The other past airbender avatars did the same.

[BlackmageAp]

^ That's just the thing though, in a good sense, Aang did kill the Firelord. Firebending was truly the only thing that he had, since it was Azulas idea to actually burn everything to the ground (even if she was going crazy). By taking his bending, he made Ozi powerless and unfit to lead anyone. He can do nothing but rot in his cell, and tell Zuko where his mother is.

But yeah, aside from that, just came on down to say, HOLY CRAP! That was amazing, and I don't see how they could've done a more fitting way to end it. Except for mabye explaining what happened to Azula. I figure she's in jail, but I would've liked to have seen her comforted by someone in the end. She was a bitch, but she was crazy at the end, which almost unjustifies some of her actions.

[All-Star Gamer]

All Ozi was is his bending ability. Nothing really more than that.

[Solareon]

I didn't make this but I agree with all that this dude said. to a degree though

My AtLA ending analysis:

I first would like to say that I was looking forward to Zuko and Katara being together. However, they didn't. I admit defeat. With that said, allow me to just say...

THAT ENDING WAS CRAP!

No! This has nothing to do with Zutara or Kataang. This has to do with 27 things that were so painfully wrong with that finale. Zutara lost. FINE! Kataang and Maiko won. Congrats. I would still feel this way if Zutara won. Now, here's why the AtLA ending fails worse than Viacom for taking down free advertising from one of the most popular sites on the internet:

1. The Avatar State

What the hell was the point of mastering the other elements? Aang went AS and basically bitch-slapped Ozai around like the pheonix king was a freaking new-born chick. There really was no point in training anything else.

That general from "The Avatar State" was right. There is no point to learning the elements. Figure out that on your own time. For now, glow it up, take out Ozai, save the world, and we'll call you if we need you again.

By the way, they would have been successful in glowing it up if they had just jabbed Aang in the back, which brings us to wrong thing #2.

2.No "has to let her go"

I'm not complaining about this as a Zutarian. I'm complaining about this as a fan of the show.

This was the reason Ba Sing Se fell. This was the reason that Azula was able to go home with the knowledge that the eclipse was coming. But, low and behold, Aang just needed a good slap on the back with a pointed rock. WTF!

Hey, AtLA, did you guys order the plate of uber DEUS EX MACHINA?

Look, if you wanted to say, when he leaves the AS, he can have Katara, fine, do that. But don't just completely ignore the point altogether.

3.Aang not killing Ozai

This was supposed to be it. Aang's final loss of innocence. Something he couldn't get out of. All the Avatars said he had to do it. His friends said he had to. Ozai was willing to kill. Yet, Aang doesn't and there's no consequence to it.

Oh, and how does he do it? That's the beauty and it brings us to #4.

4.Bending bending

WTF! I'm sorry, AtLA, my mistake. That was two orders of DEUS EX MACHINA that you wanted.

Only one person can stop people from bending and that's Ty Lee. She did it with jabs and pressure points, bending bending.

Couldn't we have one last blast from Ozai to show that it wasn't perfect. Something that doesn't keep #5 from happening?

5.No deaths

Suki falls on a blimp with no way of making it out, but miraculously is safe? Ozai couldn't have delivered one last blast, maybe killing Sokka, Suki, or Toph? No one dies? Aang's decision to spare Ozai has absolutely no consequnce?

SHAME ON YOU MIKE AND BRYAN!

Why was this so important? Because it could have been the perfect time to reveal #6 and not have it lost forever.

6.Toph's crush on Sokka

She never tells him.

*Lowers head and shakes it*

No more needs to be said about #6.

7.Kuzon

Couldn't we have so kind of closure on this? What was his ultimate fate? Did he side with the Fire Nation? Did he try to spare the air nomads? What happened? Could he have been Ursa's father? Maybe he just died.

Who knows? Tell us!

8.Long Feng

If you read my fanfic, I had high hopes for Long Feng. After all, they never showed him die. They never showed him in a jail cell. They never did anything.

He was one of the most cunning, manipulative, and ruthless men in AtLA. He should have seen Azula's move coming and planned for it. So where was it? Where was he?

Closure please!

9.Azula

Kind of the same thing as Long Feng. She goes mad, but we don't know her fate. Throw her in the cell next to Ozai.

10.Dai Lee

Hey, you are all banished. Don't expect to face punishment for your crimes against the Earth Kingdom or anything. Just go bye-bye.

11.Comet lasts for a few hours

It didn't even last a day! How the hell was the Fire Nation going to burn the Earth Kingdom to the ground in a few hours? They could have had ten times as many air ships as that and never made it to Ba Sing Se.

12.Aang never had to grow up

A combination of points 1, 2, 3, 5, and the fact that he got Katara. When has Aang ever had to learn how the real world works?

He never had to lose anything as far as the series goes. He stuck to his morals and there was no consequence. He got the girl that he wanted, despite the fact that he never made any real moves at her or gave any overt signals that he liked her until the three times in the final 11 episodes.

The worst, the absolute worst part of all was that his deus ex machina AS path didn't make him find a new way. He didn't dig deep into the depths of his soul and pull out the power in the hardest way. It just accidentally happened. What does that teach kids? I'll tell you what it teaches kids:

For those of you who read the comic strip "Pearls Before Swine" on July 20, 2008, this will sound familiar.

The message is, luck and timing are much more important than personal effort.

Really, that's it. He just accidentally gets jabbed in the scar and he goes AS. No hard work, no sacrifice, just Ozai holding back a little on his fire and Aang goes AS.

Way to ****ing-go Mike and Bryan. Way to ****ing-go. Just take the biggest journey in the show, the voyage of growing up, and excuse the main character from having any part of it.

Way to ****ing-go.

13. Lion Turtle

Sorry, that was three plates of DEUS EX MACHINA! However, this one had a side of: Can't bend on it for some reason.

Why did Aang swim there anyway?

14 and 15.Iroh and/or Zuko vs Ozai

Come on! We wanted to see that so badly. Couldn't you have one of them battle him while Aang is trying to get a second way into the AS?

16.June

Shows up, makes a Zutara joke, finds Iroh, and leaves.

Chit Seng had a bigger role then that.

17.Ty Lee's feelings for Sokka

Same issue as Toph, but to a less degree.

*Shakes head without lowering it*

18.Iroh in the spirit world

WTF HAPPENED THERE?

He had a vision that he'd conquer Ba Sing Se. Anything else? That didn't even definitively say that he went to the Spirit World to see it. What happened there?

Even if Lu Ten died, that's not enough to make him want to end the war, but not even try to kick Ozai off the throne to do it.

19.Everyone just accepts Zuko

Hey, look, citizens of Ba Sing Se! The guy who helped capture our city is now the fire lord. Oh well, I guess if Aang supports him, I'll recognize him. That's good enough for me.

20.Zuko never shoots lightening

This was supposed to be the overt moment when we knew that Zuko had forgiven the last person he needed it from, himself.

I was holding my breath through Zuko and Azula's battle, which was the highlight of the movie, waiting for him to shoot it. But, no. It never happens. Not once. Not at all. I hate Mike and Bryan for that. I really do.

21.Combustion man is never explained

This one is really just a peeve. In order to know the most BAMF villain's history, you had to go online to Nick.com and read about him.

That's just wrong.

22.Ursa

Nobody better be disagreeing with me about this! We have all been holding in the biggest "Awwwww" for when Zuko and Ursa re-unite. Do we get that? No. Do we get Ursa confronting Azula? No. We do get an illusion of Ursa, but that's pretty much a low-blow as far as consolation prizes go.

But what really, really ticked me off about this was #23.

23.Zuko interrogates Ozai, then joins the Gaang for tea

WHAT! He knows where Ursa is, but wants to have tea first? I think everyone would understand if Zuko said, "Hey, guys, rain check on the tea, alright? I have to find my mother. SINCE I NOW KNOW WHERE SHE IS!"

You ****ed that up, Mike and Bryan. You ****ed that up royally.

24.Zuko's scar

It's never healed and he never tells the Gaang how he got it.

You know, if he wanted to keep it as a mark of what he's gone through, fine. But say that. They can get more spirit water.

Also, how many of us were just waiting to see the reaction on the Gaang's face when they found out who scarred Zuko and why.

25.Lieutenant Jee

A peeve like combustion man. He should have been brought back.

26.No official Toph nick-name for Zuko

Why not? Are we just supposed to settle with the fandom-name of Sparky? Give us a solid one.
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And what's #27? It is something that pains me! Boils my blood! Makes me see red! Fills me with complete and absolute hatred for Mike and Bryan for making such a crappy end and for myself for not seeing how bad they are at making stories!

I hate you for this above everything, Mike and Bryan. If you are reading this, I hope you don't see another God-damn penny for your work because it fails so much because of #27. You had a perfect opportunity to prevent it as well as many of the other points in this essay.

I hate you for this, Mike and Bryan. Your work inspired me to start writing real works to be published and I hate you for this.

27.Koh

WHAT THE HELL DIDDLY-DO-DONG ****? YOU KNEW HE WAS THERE! YOU DIDN'T FORGET HIM! YOU ACKNOWLEDGED HIM WHILE AANG WAS TALKING TO HIS PAST SELVES! WHERE WAS HE?

Does anyone else realize how many problems this could have saved ending from? Let's look at it like this:

-The imbalance of the Fire Nation's power and the comet allowed Koh to slip into our world. That's how he gets in.

-The Lion Turtle is Koh in disguise. We know Koh's power is great, that explains why Koh could have made a spot where Aang couldn't bend

-Koh wants Aang to not want to kill so that when he himself confronts Aang, Aang won't be used to killing. That's why he tells Aang to find a different way of beating Ozai and that teaches Aang to grow up and face reality.

-Koh attacks after Ozai is beaten, maybe steals a face or two, and Aang has to kill him to save them.

-A battle with Koh could also point out why he needed to master all four elements and not just glow it up.

Koh was laughing ominously at the end of season 1 and saying that he would meet the avatar again! How did that not signal that he was coming back? I wanted him back. I wanted to see him fight. It also left so many questions unanswered.

Why does he steal faces? Why did he take it upon himself to steal Kuruk's fiance's face? What is the purpose of a spirit who steals faces when you express emotion?

WHAT THE **** HAPPENED TO HIM?

After three wonderful seasons of suspense, drama, and violence that was all acceptable for a kid, while at the same time, an adult could read between the lines and see how much violence you wanted to put there, Mike and Bryan ended it like this.

Mike DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko are the worst story-tellers ever. May they never make another story ever again.

Yah he's pissed and in a way so am I but it was a ok ending but it didn't live up to what I thought it would be

[risingfalls]

When you put it like that.
I have to agree on some parts.
But I think that if you're airing some things on Nick, where things like "death" and "hardship" don't exist, it's gonna be hard to fix a few of the problems.
And I recognized the thing with the rock in the back was kind of bad, but I just accounted it to the force of having someone explode you into a jagged rock face.

Some things I agree with, but yeah, for the most part, I loved this finale. And I hear from some earlier posts that there are some TV movies that are gonna be released, yeah? Maybe this will fix some problems,

[RikuHeroOfDark]

Its more you can add to the list as well, like what was Ursa's plan that made Ozai fire lord, and many more things but other than the several unanswered questions and the childishness of the series [what more do you expect from Nick] it was a good ending to a rather good series.

[Esp-Ada]

Tch, most of that list is just picky questions on your part. You can't expect them to answer every single insignificant question you might have, not that they are all unimportant....but most of them are :O. Oh, and how could you say there was no point in mastering the elements anyway?? If he would have never learned them to the extent that he did, he wouldn't have lasted a minute against Ozai, so the AS would have never been brought on. I won't try to answer the rest since...they are just silly lmao.