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Old November 1st, 2009, 04:16 AM   #1
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Okay, I was watching Deep Dive for the 100th time, trying to figure out different things.

In the first one (Another Side, Another Story) I saw the word 'Endless' repeat twice. All the words we've seen before, like Heartless and Nobody. What would Endless be? Is it similar to Nothing?

And another thing. I saw this in both Another Side, Another Story and Deep Dive: 'Can we do it? Against that?' I haven't heard that yet. Have you guys? Also, I saw 'Your Highness! But why!'. Something in Coded, perhaps?

I don't think Sora was born in Destiny Islands. In the end after Xemnas said 'He looks a lot like you,' to Roxas, you see Sora fly from somewhere to Destiny Islands. But this could be wrong (What I said) because he's fourteen when he flies 'across the waves'. And It's similar in what happens in KHII's opening. I guess he just flew 'across the waves' from Naminé's pod-thing.

Kairi flew 'across the waves', right? Ansem the WIse said something about her and flying over waves. That's what helped me guess Sora was from another place.

Okay, next thing. Why do all of them (Roxas, Riku, and Kairi) look older than 15-16? Roxas looks like he's 20-21. Riku's 22. Kairi's 20-21.

And...I guess that's it. If I see something else than I'll edit it. Thanks to anyone who answers the questions for me.
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The whole of the KH1 and 2 introductions is like some hallucanitory symbolic mindfuck. Don't try drawing too many things literally from it.

And twenty years old? What one Earth are you talking about?
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Old November 1st, 2009, 04:22 AM   #3
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Hmm... I've been trying to do the same thing you've been doing. It might be clearer in the later games, or they were just were ideas for quotes that Nomura could have used. I'll have to disagree with you on what your saying about their age. Not everything in the video was used in the games.
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Maybe its part of BbS (the quotes besides "your Highness") And I disagre with the ages. They look like there age to me.
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the quotes are important, they show up in throughout the different game titles though. cus if you wait at the menu on kh1 and watch the vid it shows for kh1 youll notice the words used are the words from kairi's letter which she doesnt write til kh2


YouTube - Menu Trailer - KH1

you can watch it if you want
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Old November 1st, 2009, 05:56 AM   #6
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I remember that from the first game.

I don't know why they look older to me. Sorry, I was just saying they look older.

I think it will be clearer in later games too, OceanLovesRoxas.
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And another thing. I saw this in both Another Side, Another Story and Deep Dive: 'Can we do it? Against that?' I haven't heard that yet. Have you guys? Also, I saw 'Your Highness! But why!'. Something in Coded, perhaps?
Seeing how them trying to squeeze into the game as many quotes from there as they could gave us in KH2 Kairi with a Keyblade, I'm rather happy not every single phrase from there exists within the canon of today.

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I don't think Sora was born in Destiny Islands. In the end after Xemnas said 'He looks a lot like you,' to Roxas, you see Sora fly from somewhere to Destiny Islands. But this could be wrong (What I said) because he's fourteen when he flies 'across the waves'. And It's similar in what happens in KHII's opening. I guess he just flew 'across the waves' from Naminé's pod-thing.
He was being thrown there from his Memories. Symbolism and shiz. And if he wasn't born there, which we certainly have nothing supporting this - he flew there when he was four years old. Otherwise, you know, he wouldn't have been there to have Terra see him and Riku playfight, and wouldn't have been there when Kairi reached the islands, neither to meet her nor to make the promise with Riku to go out on an adventure.

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Kairi flew 'across the waves', right? Ansem the WIse said something about her and flying over waves. That's what helped me guess Sora was from another place.
She was sent into the 'ocean between worlds'. I'd wait a bit before making such a connection though.

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Okay, next thing. Why do all of them (Roxas, Riku, and Kairi) look older than 15-16? Roxas looks like he's 20-21. Riku's 22. Kairi's 20-21.
Kairi specifically in ASAS was a scrapped character design. The rest is to blame on it being a CG scene.
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What would Endless be? Is it similar to Nothing?
Nomura joking that the KH series is "Endless", perhaps?

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And another thing. I saw this in both Another Side, Another Story and Deep Dive: 'Can we do it? Against that?' I haven't heard that yet. Have you guys?
They tried to fit in as many lines as they could but obviously they couldn't get in everything.

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Also, I saw 'Your Highness! But why!'. Something in Coded, perhaps?
This line is actually spoken in KH2. It's when Sora and co go to Twilight Town near the end, and Mickey shows up and Sora tries to ask him about Riku and Mickey says that he cant tell him that, Sora then says the line in question.

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I don't think Sora was born in Destiny Islands. In the end after Xemnas said 'He looks a lot like you,' to Roxas, you see Sora fly from somewhere to Destiny Islands. But this could be wrong (What I said) because he's fourteen when he flies 'across the waves'. And It's similar in what happens in KHII's opening. I guess he just flew 'across the waves' from Naminé's pod-thing.
It's just a visual that Nomura liked. Completely based in symbolism and nothing else.
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Tetsuya said once that he was not sure if he was going to include everything form the secret endings in the game.

The producers had to go back to the movies and place some of the quotes seen in there trough the game, some were already planned to be used but others were not.
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hmm i think they look they're age, because most kids around they're age (my age) look older. i just kinda wish that sora would actually grow more taller like riku, cuz he looks short compare to him.
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Smile, you helped a lot, thanks. You too Audo. So pretty much, no one could ft all the quotes in the games, a bunch of it is symbolism and they all look there age and I'm just acting stupid thinking they look older.

So, yeah.
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There was one thing about that video I never really understood.

Why is Kairi on the big screen? Memories of Riku?
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I think we can sum it up as "they had to tie her in somehow" in the original concept, or something along those lines, as CoM wasn't conjured until after work on KH2 was already in progress.
However, in retrospective or namely, retcon, it's quite clear it shows her relation to the Memory mess as a whole, both in CoM and now - in Days. Hardly those of Riku's
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unless you wanna say Nomura retconned it into being a representation of Xion
- and let's please not say that.
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