Malificent and Jasmine

[JerRocks2day]

When Malificient dissapears from Sora and co. before you fight Jafar, why doesn't she take Jasmine with her if she really needed her for Kingdom Hearts? Was it because she was saving her for Riku or she was just too dumb?

[WilliamTheWise]

I never noticed that, lol.
Maybe to retain the mystery surrounding her at this time. Or she felt these new enemies were unfit for her to deal with so she left so Jafar could finish the job and allow him or Riku to collect the girl.

[destinykh]

It's because the Maleficent that appeared to Jafar was merely a hologram version of herself. Note how she disappears. Instead of vanishing into a portal of darkness or disappear into green flames like she usually does, she just fades away.Obviously as a hologram Maleficent isn't solid, so she can't bring Jasmine with her.

[RoxasAi]

YA i agree she was really there, when ever she disappears is always in the green flam and darkness. Maleficent Iis one if not my Favorite Villain, But i wonder how powerful she really is or is she just full of her self, she bigs her self up but when it come to walk the talk she cant do it. Like it almost seem like she was afraid of Mansex and made Sora and the King deal with him, yet at the same time she say she going to get revenge on Sora......how can she beat some one who was able to beat some she wast not......

[destinykh]

Considering that she is still getting her strength back after being you know, dead, you can't really blame her for being wimpy. Despite her large ego, she is intelligent, she knows she can't defeat Sora or Xemnas all by herself. I consider villians who immediately attempt to bring down their wrath upon their enemies without having allies and a base of operations to back them up (i.e. Oogie Boogie) pretty stupid actually.

[Smile]

Or how about she didn't quite see her? I think that if they were aware of Jasmine's presence, that they'd have responded appropriately. But the fact remains that the one that needed to snatch her was Riku.
Either she just left him to do his job, or he found her on his own.

[destinykh]

Or how about she didn't quite see her? I think that if they were aware of Jasmine's presence, that they'd have responded appropriately. But the fact remains that the one that needed to snatch her was Riku.
Either she just left him to do his job, or he found her on his own.

Smile, Jasmine was at Maleficent's feet.

[Smile]

The scene took a while to unfold. I doubt Jasmine'd have been that silly.
And that still leaves us with Maleficent leaving it up to Riku. Nothing really matters.

[destinykh]

The scene took a while to unfold. I doubt Jasmine'd have been that silly.

Is that a typo? Cos Jasmine was too unconcious at that time to be silly. XD

And that still leaves us with Maleficent leaving it up to Riku. Nothing really matters.

I still stand that Maleficent appeared as a hologram. The way she disappeared is indicative of that. She probably watched the ensuing battle through her crystal ball thingy or whatever it was, then sent Riku to collect her once Sora and co are distracted. Althought it is pure luck on her part that Sora and co decided to fight Genie Jafar first before bringing Jasmine to safety. Wonder why she did not send Riku when they were fighting human Jafar.

[Ulti]

I think even Maleficent follows the rules of the worlds. She cannot be physically involved in this. That is why she uses other Disney villains. They can work within their own world and still keep the whole kidnapping thing a secret. I mean, she can't just appear and take her. Then the residents of the world would know of outsiders. This was stressed it was not allowed.

[Smile]

Ooooh now I got it. I misremembered the scene. Well, she left it up for Jafar then, but, uh. He screwed up.
So yes, Maleficent was being silly. Either that or couldn't be bothered to care.

Originally Posted by Ulti

I think even Maleficent follows the rules of the worlds. She cannot be physically involved in this. That is why she uses other Disney villains. They can work within their own world and still keep the whole kidnapping thing a secret. I mean, she can't just appear and take her. Then the residents of the world would know of outsiders. This was stressed it was not allowed.

Riku had no problem meddling in that sense. Seeing how he was the one that snatched Alice and eventually Jasmine as well, and who knows how many of the other princesses. For all we know he was the one that snatched Snow White, too, going by that probably-not-canon scene that happens if you finish Deep Jungle before Wonderland and then the Princess brought between the villains is Snow White and not Alice.

[destinykh]

I think even Maleficent follows the rules of the worlds. She cannot be physically involved in this. That is why she uses other Disney villains. They can work within their own world and still keep the whole kidnapping thing a secret. I mean, she can't just appear and take her. Then the residents of the world would know of outsiders. This was stressed it was not allowed.

Maleficent's a villian who spent the last ten years or so destroying worlds and kidnapping young women. I doubt she'll care about order. And if Leon and the others knew about her control over the Heartless, the whole thing's not exactly a secret. She needed villians to monitor their individual worlds in case a POH was there as she can't do it herself 24/7.

[Ulti]

Originally Posted by destinykh

Maleficent's a villian who spent the last ten years or so destroying worlds and kidnapping young women. I doubt she'll care about order. And if Leon and the others knew about her control over the Heartless, the whole thing's not exactly a secret. She needed villians to monitor their individual worlds in case a POH was there as she can't do it herself 24/7.

There is some order in chaos. She always used villains in that world to move about because it is easier and safer. The residents of the world won't know and they won't interfere. Leon and co. know because the Heartless shit basically started on their world. They know everything because of that. Maleficent is not one to do the dirty work. Its not her style.

[destinykh]

There is some order in chaos. She always used villains in that world to move about because it is easier and safer. The residents of the world won't know and they won't interfere. Leon and co. know because the Heartless shit basically started on their world. They know everything because of that. Maleficent is not one to do the dirty work. Its not her style.

I agree. But I think Maleficent does it because of secrecy, not because she WANTS to follow the order.

So yes, Maleficent was being silly. Either that or couldn't be bothered to care.

Despite her wimpiness in KH2 and her enormous delusional ego, Maleficent isn't that silly, nor would she not care about the person she is looking for who happens to be lying at her feet. Again, it's the hologram bussiness. There's no other way to explain it.

[Ulti]

She follows the order which gives her secrecy. It is the same thing really