Did you ever noticed?

[xXMarukuXx]

i dont know if anyone noticed but the game does clearly state that sora wasnt the intended wielder of the kingdom Key, it was Riku and that he didnt get it cause he was engulfed by the darkness or something but i do recall that sora ad the dream where you make choices(it as something whit the keyblade ) before riku was engulfed by the darkness so thats disprove that Riku was the one intended to have it or sora was meant to get another keyblade but got that one instead but that still doesnt make up for the fact that riku didnt have anything dark at is heart

[SeaSalt IceCream]

*sigh*
Oh dear,
Yes we do know it doesn't ACTUALLY SAY That Riku wasn't in the game,
So please allow me to explain,
The best way I can explain this is through BBS

Im hoping you have some knowledge of our heros
Terra, Aqua, and Ven.
I'm also hoping you've seen the sybolism clip of Terra picking up the Kingdom Key, Aqua (Mystery Character) picking up the Inverse Kingdom Key, and finally we have Ven, Who picks up the Way to Dawn.

VAT, (Terra, Aqua, Ven) Were the keyblade weilders prior to SRM (Sora, Riku and Mickey)

Now the reason, We say Riku was supposed to weild the keyblade is this.
Their names in Latan? meaning? I think it's latan, if not please correct me.

Anyways
Terra - Earth
Ven - Wind
Mystery Character - whom of which we asume is "Aqua" because that means "Water"

Then we have

Riku - Land
Sora - Sky
Kairi - Ocean

You see the pattern?

I could explain this in more depth if you want me.
But that's the basic outline,

[xXMarukuXx]

yes i do know all that and i do understand but i do also remember that Riku said to Sora that he was just a delivery boy between other things that showed that the keyblade was meant for Riku so even before kh2 was out they already showed that Sora wasnt the chosen for the Kingdom Key.
Im only sayng that the start of the game doesnt add up to this particular thing

[rikubaka67]

When I played the game, I was under the impression that Riku didn't mean what he said, but was just saying it to hurt Sora. Either that or he was confused. Think about it - how would Riku know he is the true keyblade master, especially if he's engulfed in darkness?

[xXMarukuXx]

maybe you have a point but still doesn't explain why the keyblade went to Sora before Riku was engulfed in darkness

[griever]

Yeah this is one point I've been discussing with others for some time "The voice" seems quite clear on the fact that the keyblade was meant for Sora before Riku's heart was judged unworthy.

My immediate reaction also was that Riku had simply been convinced by Maleficent that he was the true keyblade master. Maleficent herself, I believe only chose Riku because she believed his heart would be the only one strong enough to take the keyblade from sora (XH: THe one who's heart is strongest shall win the keyblade: that is how the bearer is chosen).

Now obviously there are yet more arguments against my beliefs including Terra?'s words in KHFM+, though we're still not sure that's canon.

Other than that its an issue that is only ever brought up in KH1 by a possibly deceived Riku and a self serving Maleficent... so I have always been skeptical on the idea that the keyblade was meant for riku.

I am aware I am about to be called a noob and get flamed for this post.

[The Light]

I already told the true story under Sora Keyblade master Riku never was sopose to b the keyblade master and in the second game Riku clearly stated that he wasnt the keyblade master
Riku:you know Sora what I said back their about me thinking I was better at stuff than you to tell you the truth Sora I was jealous of you
Sora:Jealous? What for?
Riku: I wish I could live the way you do just following my heart

also in the second game he points out that soras heart was really strong
and Sora had that dream so once again Sora was and always will be the true Keyblade master

[griever]

Originally Posted by The Light

I already told the true story under Sora Keyblade master Riku never was sopose to b the keyblade master and in the second game Riku clearly stated that he wasnt the keyblade master
Riku:you know Sora what I said back their about me thinking I was better at stuff than you to tell you the truth Sora I was jealous of you
Sora:Jealous? What for?
Riku: I wish I could live the way you do just following my heart

also in the second game he points out that soras heart was really strong
and Sora had that dream so once again Sora was and always will be the true Keyblade master

Sorry dude but I'm not sure you're making a good argument, I mean you're even supporting my theory and I feel I have to pick you up for it, Riku's compliment to Sora had nothing to do with being master of the keyblade and everything to do with the massive rivalry they've had going since they were kids, it was just a sentimental scene showing the frienship between Sora and Riku,

With your second point, once again, I'm quite sure it was just a compliment, not conceding that Sora is the true keyblade master.

[xXMarukuXx]

There are alots of things in KH2 that make seem that he is the chosen wielder for the keyblade, KH1 are mainly suspencions and BBS is all about theories since is not out yet
Whit all 3 games you cant say if Sora is or isnt the chosen one(hopefully BBS will answer that)...but if it isnt Way to Dawn would go to him but that also cant be cause way to dawn is based of Riku old weapon or the other way around so it cant be.

[DarkSoldier85]

Watch the cutscene right before the Terra fight in KH2FM. Terra says, "You aren't the one I chose" or something like that. I assume that he was expecting Riku. This means that Riku was meant to have the keyblade for a long time, but accepted the darkness before Sora had that dream (at the beginning of the game).

Since Riku accepted the darkness, he could not use a keyblade from the realm of light. However, he gained control of the Kingdom Key for a little while just by having a stronger heart than Sora. As you know, Sora's heart became stronger than Riku's and he regained control of the keyblade. In the second game, sometime between when you see Riku at the Land of Dragons and when you see him at TWTNW, he gained control of another keyblade (a keyblade that fit his alignment and the strength of his heart), the Way to Dawn.

Anyone can have a keyblade, provided they have a heart strong enough and if they can find the keyblade. Nomura himself said this.

[xXMarukuXx]

Originally Posted by DarkSoldier85

Watch the cutscene right before the Terra fight in KH2FM. Terra says, "You aren't the one I chose" or something like that. I assume that he was expecting Riku. This means that Riku was meant to have the keyblade for a long time, but accepted the darkness before Sora had that dream (at the beginning of the game).

Since Riku accepted the darkness, he could not use a keyblade from the realm of light. However, he gained control of the Kingdom Key for a little while just by having a stronger heart than Sora. As you know, Sora's heart became stronger than Riku's and he regained control of the keyblade. In the second game, sometime between when you see Riku at the Land of Dragons and when you see him at TWTNW, he gained control of another keyblade (a keyblade that fit his alignment and the strength of his heart), the Way to Dawn.

Anyone can have a keyblade, provided they have a heart strong enough and if they can find the keyblade. Nomura himself said this.

its impossible cause there wasnt darkness for Riku to adept hes hate threw Sora only grew after maleficient got him, as of any matter that made him accept the darkness.

and the Riku at the land of dragon wasnt using way to dawn cause that wasnt way to dawn it was the weapon is dark from used

[Grant_Sheikdom]

DarkSoldier85 said BETWEEN TWTNW and Land of Dragons. And if I remember right, Nomura said in an interview that the Keyblade passed to Sora in the flash of light (the strength of his heart showing itself) after Riku was engulfed--which doesn't explain why the voice in the dream basically addresses him as the Keybearer, but maybe we can assume the voice is clairvoyant or knows more than it should. There's also a remote possibility that Sora was meant to do something with the Keyblade despite the fact that Riku was its master, otherwise he probably wouldn't be able to wield it in the first place.

Either way, it's evident that Riku was still strong enough to wield it once the darkness wasn't around. The minute it goes back to you is the minute he gets his skirt. Er, kilt. Whatever.

[xXMarukuXx]

riku didnt appear in twilight town maybe you think the world that was?
anyway its true about nomura sayng but its cronologicly wrong, and i dont know if you played the other kh games but that voice was xenmas if im not wrong or some other nobody from the org. XII
what i originally said was if they say Riku was the original bearer and didnt get beacause he was engulfed in darkness but Sora already had the dream about the keyblade before that at the destiny islands and dont say Riku was already engulfed whit darkness then cause it only happen after destiny island was attacked

[xjeezlouisx]

what about kairi?
does she matters?

[Destiny's End]

maybe you have a point but still doesn't explain why the keyblade went to Sora before Riku was engulfed in darkness

On Destiny Islands when Sora and Riku were in the "Quicksand" of Darkness, Sora was searching through the Darkness to find Riku, and he "touched" the light that ended up being the Keyblade. No Darkness involved, well, until they got to Hollow Bastion anyway.

Yeah this is one point I've been discussing with others for some time "The voice" seems quite clear on the fact that the keyblade was meant for Sora before Riku's heart was judged unworthy.

My immediate reaction also was that Riku had simply been convinced by Maleficent that he was the true keyblade master. Maleficent herself, I believe only chose Riku because she believed his heart would be the only one strong enough to take the keyblade from sora (XH: THe one who's heart is strongest shall win the keyblade: that is how the bearer is chosen).

Now obviously there are yet more arguments against my beliefs including Terra?'s words in KHFM+, though we're still not sure that's canon.

Other than that its an issue that is only ever brought up in KH1 by a possibly deceived Riku and a self serving Maleficent... so I have always been skeptical on the idea that the keyblade was meant for riku.

I am aware I am about to be called a noob and get flamed for this post.

The Keyblade was Riku's for all means and purposes. It was the little twist of fate I mentioned above that awarded the Keyblade to Sora.

I'm with on Maleficent to an extent. Riku was just a pawn. She never cared for the boy. She just wanted the Keyblade to open the Door to Darkness, but then again, Riku was controlled by Ansem at the time and ended up screwing over Maleficent. Karma works in mysterious ways sometimes.