Your KH3 Final Boss Theories Here

[Forsaken Shadow]

But no, it's not Eraqus. Think about what I said above:

1) - PLAYABLE character (from ANY of the games in the series)

2) - Original character created exclusively for this series

3) - Has yet to also be fought as a Boss (SERIOUS Boss; Tutorial Bosses don't count)

4) - Would have very strong reasons to hate Darkness

5) - This character is "pure"; their heart and/or memories have never been tampered with once

If you think about all of that carefully, then there is only one character who fits all of the criteria.

You'd better not be talking about Sora, because Sora fits all categories except the last...and the third. Only other character I can think of is Aqua.

[Alan Smithee]

Somebody here solved my mystery, so....

Yes, it's Aqua. She fits all of the criteria:

1) - Playable in at least ONE game
2) - Original to the series
3) - Has not yet served as a Boss (apart from Terra's BBS tutorial, but I said Tutorial Bosses don't count)
4) - Has good reasons to hate Darkness (all of Xehanort's Darkness-motivated actions, Terra and Ven's Darkness-related misery, her constant struggles in the Realm Of Darkness, etc.)
5) - Is "pure"

Who said she'd be evil? I mean, let's see: Xion wasn't evil in HER Boss Battle (358/2), she was just trying to force Roxas to kill her so she couldn't be manipulated anymore.

Similarly, Aqua wouldn't be seeking absolute power like Xehanort; rather, she would be trying to "save" the worlds, in a warped way: use Kingdom Hearts/X-Blade/whatever to FORCE Darkness out of every Heart and world until the universe is absolute-Light (like it was in Kairi's Grandmother's story). This way, in her mind, people like Xehanort would never exist again, and good people like her and her friends would never have to suffer again. She would justify this by saying that Eraqus was right about Darkness all along, and that Xehanort's actions against her and her friends only further proved Eraqus' point. In the process, she would be also seeking revenge on Xehanort, but instead of Terra's "roid-rage" approach from BBS, she would be more methodical and attempt to outwit Xehanort. After eventually succeeding in forcing karma upon Xehanort, she would then reveal her intentions to her shocked friends, who would obviously try to talk her down from destroying the Light/Darkness balance. Aqua would not listen, but instead beg them not to try and stop her, as she only wants to create a better future for them all. With heavy regret, they refuse to back down and vow to stop her from making the biggest mistake of her life. Aqua, a single tear running down her cheek (just like Eraqus before he fought Terra in BBS), simply nods, and the first round of the true Final Battle begins. However, it won't be easy, as Aqua is continually absorbing Light from KH (similar to Saix and the moon in KH2) in order to increase her abilities.

More later....

[Waves_Blade]

Kairi possessed by Xehanort wielding the X-Blade.

Wait what?

[Alan Smithee]

Kairi possessed by Xehanort wielding the X-Blade.

Wait what?

So you read that fanfic, too?

[Waves_Blade]

So you read that fanfic, too?

May I have a link to this fanfic?

[Alan Smithee]

Reconnect: Kingdom Hearts Chapter 1: Darkness, a kingdom hearts fanfic - FanFiction.Net

[.Oji]

My theory:

I personally think that Xehanort will NOT be the Final Boss in KH3. That would just be too predictable. He will be the SEMI-Final Boss, much like Barthandelus from FFXIII. Instead, a twist will occur where one of the heroes usurps his role as antagonist, "disposes" of him (ironic, given his treatment of others), and attempts to claim Kingdom Hearts' power for him/herself. This person will not be corrupted by Darkness (like the ten trillion other Bosses in the series), but will instead try to DESTROY Darkness and remake the universe into pure-Light, believing that Darkness really was the source of evil and misery all along, and that Xehanort's actions only reinforced that idea. The other heroes will try to talk this person down, but cannot ease his/her paranoia against Darkness, and will ultimately have no choice but to face this person in order to protect the balance of Light/Darkness. However, this can't just be ANY one of the heroes. After all, nearly all of them have already served as Bosses in some way/shape/form at some point in the series. But there is one playable, series-original character who has remained a hero all the way through. If you can guess who I'm talking about, I'll continue my theory.

But in all seriousness, being predictable isn’t necessarily a bad thing in this case. You could do the predictable thing and still be effective.

Besides, he’s the de-facto big bad of the story—defeating him in the end is what the story is pretty much building towards. Straying too far from that could affect the ending negatively—pulling a Shocking Swerve certainly will end badly.

[Alan Smithee]

May I have a link to this fanfic?

Well, apparently I don't have enough posts for posts-with-links/images to be approved yet, so I can't send you the link directly. I can, however, tell you the title of the fanfic: Reconnect Kingdom Hearts (in that order)

Go to fanfiction com and look it up.

But in all seriousness, being predictable isn’t necessarily a bad thing in this case. You could do the predictable thing and still be effective.

Besides, he’s the de-facto big bad of the story—defeating him in the end is what the story is pretty much building towards. Straying too far from that could affect the ending negatively—pulling a Shocking Swerve certainly will end badly.

But repetition can also be bad. Quite frankly, I'm just tired of "Dark Is Evil" antagonists. The series constantly promotes "Dark Is Not Evil" and the "Balance Between Good And Evil," but most (if not all) of the time a KH game boils down to Light-based heroes trying to stop Darkness-based antagonists anyway and leaves the player with the impression that "Dark Is Evil" all along. If Nomura wants to better promote his "Yin Yang Bomb" moral, then he needs to mix it up with some "Light Is Not Good": have a "Knight Templar" or "Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds" who believes that Darkness is the cause of all suffering and wants to destroy it for good, effectively invoking the "Evils Of Free Will" trope. Maybe he/she can also qualify for "Properly Paranoid" since all of the enemies have been Darkness-oriented so far in the series. Certainly "Not Helping Your Case."

It's nice to meet a fellow Troper, btw. You probably recognize the Tropes I've listed above to support my thoughts. I just wish that I had a high enough post count now so the spam-bot filters would approve my posts with links/images in them. That's why I don't have links to the actual Trope pages.

Why am I the only one "flaming" ? Cause 1) they don't care about FF13 2) They finished FF13

I don't think any of those who replied are actually playing FF13 for the first time (like me).

You know, you could have just told me you were just starting FF13 in your first reply and I would have gladly apologized and edited my original post to be fair to you. That way, this whole flame-war could have been avoided. Sorry to have spoiled you. But at least I didn't give away the REAL-Final Boss or the ending, right?

*sigh* So do you want me to take that bit out of the original post for you? A promise is a promise after all.

[tmp1114]

Well, apparently I don't have enough posts for posts-with-links/images to be approved yet, so I can't send you the link directly. I can, however, tell you the title of the fanfic: Reconnect Kingdom Hearts (in that order)

Go to fanfiction com and look it up.



But repetition can also be bad. Quite frankly, I'm just tired of DarkIsEvil antagonists. The series constantly promotes DarkIsNotEvil and BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil, but most (if not all) of the time a KH game boils down to Light-based heroes trying to stop Darkness-based antagonists anyway and leaves the player with the impression that DarkIsEvil all along. If Nomura wants to better promote his "Yin/Yang" moral, then he needs to mix it up: have a LightIsNotGood WellIntentionedExtremist WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds who believes that UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans and that if they want to create a SugarBowl of IncorruptiblePurePureness without suffering or CompleteMonsters like Xehanort then TheEvilsOfFreeWill should be eliminated, or something like that.

It's nice to meet a fellow Troper, btw. You probably recognize the Tropes I've listed above to support my thoughts. I just wish that I had a high enough post count now so the spam-bot filters would approve my posts with links/images in them. That's why I don't have links to the actual Trope pages.



You know, you could have just told me you were just starting FF13 in your first reply and I would have gladly apologized and edited my original post to be fair to you. That way, this whole flame-war could have been avoided. Sorry to have spoiled you. But at least I didn't give away the REAL-Final Boss or the ending, right?

*sigh* So do you want me to take that bit out of the original post for you? A promise is a promise after all.

It fanfiction.net and it made by star tours traveler.

[Alan Smithee]

It fanfiction.net and it made by star tours traveler.

Yeah, that one. Why did I think it was fanfiction COM?

Stupidstupidstupid!!! *bangs own head over and over again with random Keyblade from the Keyblade Graveyard*

[King Chaser]

I want to insult you but I might be banned, you don't have to decide for me or ANYBODY what is a spoiler or not -_- .

Been out for 2 years ? So what ? It's ok to reveal plot related "surprises" to illustrate your THEORY about ANOTHER game ? Because you finished it, it's ok ? Everybody is forced to do so or it's their problem ?

You fell on the head when you were a baby ?

Being in a spoiler section DEDICATED TO ONE SERIES used as an excuse to spoil A NON RELATED GAME is epic, bro.

Also, many people ? Excuse me but not everyone had a ps3 when the game came out, not everybody could/wanted to afford the first game (which isn't so good, while the sequel is great, so it can motivate people to START the game now and not 2 years ago), just because some did it's OK to talk about it as if it were 10 years old and any fan who cared did it ? You're kidding me ?!

That's not the question. The question is, were you forced to spoil an element from an unrelated game without warning just to illustrate your theory.

And no, I don't think that way about others. If enough people ask me, then I promise to delete that part. But so far, you're the only one flaming about it.

That is not true. Why wouldn't I read you ? I wouldn't read you if you had stated somewhere that your 'spoiler' might include anything and not just KH. Duh.

Dude, calm down. The game has been out for two years, any spoilers are allowed. And it was all under spoiler tags as well.

Why am I the only one "flaming" ? Cause 1) they don't care about FF13 2) They finished FF13

I don't think any of those who replied are actually playing FF13 for the first time (like me).

Maybe they're not just so uptight about bosses for a game that was released two years ago.


Now, Alan, don't reply to him unless it is about the topic at hand.
Straythe, go for a walk or something and calm down. Also, there was no need to ask if he was dropped on his head as a child.

[.Oji]

@Alan Smithee I recognize them.

TV Tropes is one of my gateway drugs of choice, so no worries. ;)

But repetition can also be bad. Quite frankly, I'm just tired of "Dark Is Evil" antagonists. The series constantly promotes "Dark Is Not Evil" and the "Balance Between Good And Evil," but most (if not all) of the time a KH game boils down to Light-based heroes trying to stop Darkness-based antagonists anyway and leaves the player with the impression that "Dark Is Evil" all along.

Don’t see how this can possible be their take away from the story when—and to your own admission—Kingdom Hearts has promoted the contrary on more than one occasion.

And I totally get that you’re tired of big baddies using darkness, but that’s what this story—this saga, for all intents and purposes, built itself on. Maybe the next saga will be different.

If Nomura wants to better promote his "Yin Yang Bomb" moral, then he needs to mix it up with some "Light Is Not Good": have a "Knight Templar" or "Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds" who believes that Darkness is the cause of all suffering and wants to destroy it for good, effectively invoking the "Evils Of Free Will" trope. Maybe he/she can also qualify for "Properly Paranoid" since all of the enemies have been Darkness-oriented so far in the series. Certainly "Not Helping Your Case."

He’s more than welcomed to take that sort of approach for the next saga. A KH story basing itself on the Order VS Chaos dichotomy would be dope.

On a side note, what's this about Eraqus being dead? Where was it ever explicitly stated that he died?

[Seighart]

I liked the idea of the ending twist. Also, just because its the Xehanort Saga doesn't mean he has to be the final boss. For obvious reasons, he would be the final boss, but to put it simply, the "Xehanort Saga" could mean something along the lines of :The events that came to be because of one man. I wouldnt mind Aqua being the final boss, but Xehanort would need to be a boss of course. If Nomura were to actually make her a final boss, id say it would be a great ending to the saga. It would mean putting her to rest from her emotional scarring she has endured.

[Vani]

Why on Earth would Aqua be the final boss? Unlike Eraqus, friendship means the world to her. She wouldn't throw that all away to "fix" something that she knows is already fine. Xehanort is the main villain here and the focus of the saga. Therefore, he should be the last one fought.
Maybe a scenario like one you said (Someone of Light disrupting the balance by destroying darkness) could be used in a future saga. But the Xehanort saga is about stopping Xehanort and should end there.

[Ordeith]

This man is actually the truest incarnation of Xehanort, and has been manipulating the events of the entire series in order to construct the ultimate STRUGGLE tournament. Every boss battle until this point has been part of the preliminary qualifying round. Kingdom Hearts 3 will be the tournament itself--but this won't be revealed until the final world.

In all seriousness, a young(er) Xehanort will probably be the final boss--after all of the other Xehanorts have been confronted.