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Old 03/26/07, 06:30 AM   #1
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By Hills and Voga (Yeah Buddy!)

This is a prequel to the last paragraph of another recent theory I wrote. The link to it is in my signature. We thought of the this theory while writing the other one so didn’t tell me about how much the two contradict, just focus on the last paragraph. Here it goes.

In KH1, Riku has Xehanort’s Heartless heart inside him after the two fuse together so some have concluded that my last paragraph is incorrect. But here is why it is correct.

If you’ll remember, Riku’s heart and body/soul met each other and he was recreated once he was destroyed. This is needed for understanding the rest of our theory.

In Secret Ansem Report #1, Ansem the Wise says, “If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within.” This proves that memories can be retrieved from a heart. In KH:COM, Riku is confronted by Zexion. Zexion attempts to engage in psychological warfare by changing into Sora. This attack was seemingly directed at Riku, but could have been an attempt to extract the memories from Xehanort’s heart inside Riku without Riku knowing about it, but fails. This is proof that the Organization knew about Riku, but back to that in a second.

In Secret Ansem Report #12, DiZ tells us that Sora, Kairi, Roxas, and Naminé are connected. Also, after Sora meets Roxas, Roxas can’t fade (this is the same with Naminé and Kairi). Now, I will make my point. After the first battle with Xemnas, Riku doesn’t have the ability to create a corridor of darkness thus suggesting that he has lost Xehanort’s heart. This happened when the machine that was supposed to change Kingdom Hearts into data exploded and Riku was changed from his Xehanort form into his original self again and Xehanort’s heart rose into Kingdom Hearts. But just before this, Riku saw Xemnas in his dark form (either his Heartless outfit or Xehanort’s Heartless form). Therefore, Xemnas, similar to Roxas and Naminé, can’t fade once destroyed. What I’m about to write may blow your mind so be careful where you read this.

As mentioned before, Sora, Kairi, Roxas, and Naminé are connected. The reason for this is the unique way all of them were formed (from Secret Ansem Report #12, “Sora's time as a Heartless was short, having recovered his heart and returned to his human form soon after leaving behind Roxas, his Nobody. It would seem Roxas is much like Naminé. Naminé is Kairi's Nobody, but came into being via Sora's body and soul. Likewise, Roxas is Sora's Nobody, but was left behind because Sora's Heartless regained human form using Kairi's heart instead of his own.”). A similar matter is that of Ansem’s apprentices. We know that if one gives their own heart willingly, they are able to maintain a more humanlike form (as is discussed in Ansem Report #12 and by Sora’s seeming intelligence as a heartless). In Secret Ansem Report #3, it tells us they all lost their hearts at same time and in Seret Ansem Report #10 it says, "I believe that Naminé was born as a special type of Nobody when Sora attacked himself with the Keyblade, causing his and Kairi's hearts to leave their bodies simultaneously," so weird stuff can happen depending on the way you were formed. Thus, they should all have been able to keep there forms correct? Yes, and I can tell you why. Instead of becoming individual beings, their losing their hearts at the same time caused them to all migrate into a single vessel, Xehanort’s Heartless. We know that Sora had all of the Princesses of Heart’s hearts inside of him at one time. So when Riku bonded with Xehanort’s Heartless, he also gained the hearts of all of Ansem’s other apprentices. This is the best part.

Riku meets with all of the apprentices (while in dark or Xehanort form) except for Dilan/Xaldin (you may be thinking that he never saw Braig/ Xigbar, but they met in the Land of Dragons). This means that they all never truly faded and, Like Riku, will be recreated as their human selves again (yes, that includes Zexion). But this can’t have happened until Xemnas is destroyed and his body and soul return to Kingdom Hearts and rejoins with his heart (because all the apprentices would be connected). Now here is the tie in with my last theory.

Once Xemnas was once again Xehanort, he still wouldn’t be able to remember his past. In Castle Oblivion, the cocoons that bring your memory back were there before Sora got there. Also, in Secret Ansem Report #8 DiZ says, “I infiltrated Castle Oblivion. It consists of 13 floors above and 12 floors below ground, with the contents of its "White Rooms" transforming in response to its visitors' memories. These White Rooms were also there before Sora got there. So the purpose of Castle Oblivion is to restore and display memories. This is how Xemnas would have his memories restored once he became Xehanort again. If you'll remember, the only reason Xemnas was gathering hearts to Kingdom Hearts was because he wanted to be able to find his heart and become human again (a.k.a. Xehanort again). After he was Xehanort, he could go into the cocoon and regain his memories he and the White Rooms are where all the apprentices would go to witness Xehanort’s past. Then, whatever was seen by the apprentices would be very special. Do you remember when Nomura made the statement "You could think it [the secret movie] is in the past but also in the future"? If this were the truth then that would make perfect sense. The actual event would have taken place in the past, but when they watch it in the White Room, that would be in the future. This is the Organization’s true intentions.

Now you may be wondering hiw they would get to Castle Oblivoin from wherever they were. Well there are two ways. Sora's Way and Riku's Way (Sora walked on the road that led to Castle Oblivion and Riku got there by useing darkness and we know that Xehanort was able to open the door in Ansem's basement).

Recently, some have posed doubts in the plan of the Organization saying it was not very creative and was boring. If this was there plan, I think the next game would be very entertaining.

Some people have shown me that it was namine, not the coccoons that retreive memories. Okay, i just had an idea. When namine reunited with Kairi, did Kairi gain the power to change memories that namine had? She should have because she is now a complete being so both halves should make the whole. Maybe Kairi had those powers all along and the cave drawings on Destiny Island point to something? This would also make my theory make sense again.

Now that you have read it, take the poll again.

Please tell me what you think. I am very curious.

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Old 03/26/07, 06:47 AM   #2
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this is very good I think should rep u I dont know but im a little new so yeah
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Old 03/26/07, 06:49 AM   #3
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...nice theory, however I think Zexion shouldn't come back (reusing old villans can be kind of lame, eg; Maleficent)
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Old 03/26/07, 06:53 AM   #4
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It's kinda tiring and bored when old villains return in the next installment like a surprise and we were like "not him/her again" or "Well, what do you know?" I have to agree with The_Watcher that Zexion won't be coming back, he's dead, along with the other members.
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Old 03/26/07, 06:57 AM   #5
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No it wouldnt it would bring suspense and why hes still there itd be fun to know but at the same he would need to die
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Old 03/26/07, 07:08 AM   #6
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yea i mean i like Zexion and all, but coming back in a sense is just dumb. he shouldn't come back hes dead, rest in peace. yea.
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Old 03/26/07, 12:23 PM   #7
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=o that's a really good theory. It seems to make sense in a way. But as per usual, we can't prove anything, because of the non-existent evidence and actual confirmation.

Aww, i wanted Zexy to come back. In my opinion, he didn't play much of a role.
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Really, it wouldn't even be Zexion it would be Ienzo. Also, all the other apprentices would be human too so they would all be "new" characters.
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That could explain why Xigbar said that thing about the other Keybladers, but let's wait and see...:D...
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Your theory does makes sense, Vulcrypt but let's wait and find out.
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Old 03/26/07, 09:21 PM   #12
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In Secret Ansem Report #1, Ansem the Wise says, “If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within.” This proves that memories can be retrieved from a heart.
That means he might be able to, we don't know if it's possible. You can't reach out and touch memories(to our knowledge), they aren't tangible;with the exception of namine, but new rules apply to her.
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Thus, they should all have been able to keep there forms correct? Yes, and I can tell you why.
Because, like xehanort, each separate being became sentient;They became a different beings, but both maintained the knowledge of there own self as well as the being that created them.
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Instead of becoming individual beings, their losing their hearts at the same time caused them to all migrate into a single vessel, Xehanort’s Heartless.
WTF? If they migrated the xehanorts heartless, then WTF happened to riku's body? What is he, chop liver? Or did you forget that the being you fought before the heart separation was riku's body. Xehanort's heartless can't be in more than one shell at a time, sorry to disappoint you.
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We know that Sora had all of the Princesses of Heart’s hearts inside of him at one time.
No; He had one, Uno. Do I have to get you the video? Really? Having the keyblade that contains all the hearts of the princesses in you, that doesn't mean the hearts were in you.
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So when Riku bonded with Xehanort’s Heartless, he also gained the hearts of all of Ansem’s other apprentices.
WTF?
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This means that they all never truly faded and, Like Riku, will be recreated as their human selves again
Eloborate. Riku never lost his heart: He simply contained and controlled one more heart within his body.
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After he was Xehanort, he could go into the cocoon and regain his memories he and the White Rooms are where all the apprentices would go to witness Xehanort’s past.
After he got his butt kicked by riku and sora, I doubt he has the strength to go there, or even know how to.
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i'm gonna have to agree with pwn3d on this one, NONE of this makes sense or is accurate, starting with the first thing you said, xenahort's heartless can't have a heart, it's a heartless which means it has no heart! and btw i dont see whats so great about zexion, everybody seems to love him but i dont think he's so special
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1. In Secret Ansem Report #1, Ansem the Wise says, “If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within.” This proves that memories can be retrieved from a heart. That means he might be able to, we don't know if it's possible. You can't reach out and touch memories(to our knowledge), they aren't tangible;with the exception of namine, but new rules apply to her.

2. Thus, they should all have been able to keep there forms correct? Yes, and I can tell you why. Because, like xehanort, each separate being became sentient;They became a different beings, but both maintained the knowledge of there own self as well as the being that created them.

3. Instead of becoming individual beings, their losing their hearts at the same time caused them to all migrate into a single vessel, Xehanort’s Heartless
WTF? If they migrated the xehanorts heartless, then WTF happened to riku's body? What is he, chop liver? Or did you forget that the being you fought before the heart separation was riku's body. Xehanort's heartless can't be in more than one shell at a time, sorry to disappoint you.

4. We know that Sora had all of the Princesses of Heart’s hearts inside of him at one time.
No; He had one, Uno. Do I have to get you the video? Really? Having the keyblade that contains all the hearts of the princesses in you, that doesn't mean the hearts were in you.

5. So when Riku bonded with Xehanort’s Heartless, he also gained the hearts of all of Ansem’s other apprentices. Eloborate. Riku never lost his heart: He simply contained and controlled one more heart within his body.

6. This means that they all never truly faded and, Like Riku, will be recreated as their human selves again
After he got his butt kicked by riku and sora, I doubt he has the strength to go there, or even know how to.
I will attempt to answer these in order.

1.I worded this badly. This doesn’t prove that it can be done through psychological tests, but it still can be done in other ways (We know that because Sora was able to regain his memories). The point I was making was that this could have been the reason that Zexion was trying to psychologically “get to” Riku and may have been trying to retrieve Xehanort’s memories from Riku’s heart (speculation).

2.Their nobodies are different, but there heartless haven’t been established as different.

3.I mention how weird stuff can happen when hearts are given freely and simultaneously, which is based on Secret Ansem Report. You asked what happened to riku’s body and that is simple. When you first fight Ansem riku on the platform with Kairi’s body on it, you are fighting the Riku who has already fused with Xehanort’s heartless.

4.Even so, Sora has Kairi’s heart released and from inside of him and it restores Kairi.

5.When Xehanort’s Heartless fully manifested himself, Riku was cast off and lost his heart. Xehanort’s heartless used Riku’s heart along with his own to manifest himself, and this means they are still connected to him. So, when the door to Kingdom Hearts is opened and Xehanort’s Heartless body is destroyed, the heart travels to Kingdom Hearts and rejoins with Riku.

6.He doesn’t need the strength. Just as Riku did, his body and soul will meet with his heart in Kingdom Hearts or Vice-Versa.

May I also note that this theory is purely speculation and I’m only writing it down to come up with more ideas and pass the time until more information about the story is revealed. Another reason why I’m writing this, is because right now i/m in a super boring science class.
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i'm gonna have to agree with pwn3d on this one, NONE of this makes sense or is accurate, starting with the first thing you said, xenahort's heartless can't have a heart, it's a heartless which means it has no heart! and btw i dont see whats so great about zexion, everybody seems to love him but i dont think he's so special
A heartless is the embodiment of a lost heart so it does indeed have a heart. Hence the entire story of KH2 (i guess you didn't get it).
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