Memory of Xeanort theory

[mr.Twilight]

Before we get started I just wanna say I'm sorry if this has been posted already.


Well you know how Nomura said that the whole secret ending was in the past...but also in the present, maybe we see it in Riku's dreams. I've been told that Riku has no Nobody because ansem's(kh1) heart was in his body when he lost his, even tho I still believe That Axel is his nobody but thats not what this is about. Now, maybe the memories of xeanort were in his heart and transfered them into Riku.

Any thots...please dont flame, a simple no will suffice

[riku_keyblader]

ok then, no flaming(like you said):
no.

[Ankoku]

Oh... no flames? Then, NO. NO. NO.

[OmniChaos]

Please, if you don't have something to post, aside from No, then don't. It would be better not to post in the thread than filling it with short useless posts. You could at least put some reason behind it. As for me, I do not believe that is the Memory of Xehanort. In the secret Ansem reports, it states that Ansem the Wise found Xehanort in Radient Garden, near death's door with his memories gone. So, I believe the Memory of Xehanort refers to the Memories Xehanort lost after his great battle with someone/something. And one other thing, Axel isn't Riku's Nobody. Everyone needs to except the fact. Riku never was turned into a Heartless. His body was only controled by Ansem. Plus the fact that Axel is completely (physically) different from Riku. Just because he plays the same role to Roxas as Riku does to Sora, doesn't make them Heartless and Nobody. As we know, Nobodies and their human like Heartless counterparts look similar to eachother.

[riku_keyblader]

Originally Posted by Xemnas.01

Please, if you don't have something to post, aside from No, then don't. It would be better not to post in the thread than filling it with short useless posts. You could at least put some reason behind it. As for me, I do not believe that is the Memory of Xehanort. In the secret Ansem reports, it states that Ansem the Wise found Xehanort in Radient Garden, near death's door with his memories gone. So, I believe the Memory of Xehanort refers to the Memories Xehanort lost after his great battle with someone/something. And one other thing, Axel isn't Riku's Nobody. Everyone needs to except the fact. Riku never was turned into a Heartless. His body was only controled by Ansem. Plus the fact that Axel is completely (physically) different from Riku. Just because he plays the same role to Roxas as Riku does to Sora, doesn't make them Heartless and Nobody. As we know, Nobodies and their human like Heartless counterparts look similar to eachother.

well, he said "Any thots...please dont flame, a simple no will suffice"
thus, I said "no"

[SweatEightBall]

you can't really say he wasn't turned into a heartless, I mean his body completely changed.

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by SweatEightBall

you can't really say he wasn't turned into a heartless, I mean his body completely changed.

Yes you can. Riku never turned into a Heartless. He was only possesed by one.

[pwn3d]

Let me quote something real fast.

"Voice:Your heart has overcome darkness. BUT you couldn't take your body back,so your heart was left behind..."

Source
Riku in darkness

[PostMentalFerocity]

Yes, his heart left his body. But there was no heartless formed due to the fact that there was another heart withing him.


There are 3 types of heartless.
Pureblood- They are they darkness in your heart, and when your heart gets taken it fades into darkness, and the darkness becomes your heartless.
Original- When your heart is taken the darkness in your heart envelops it causing it to become a captive heart.
Emblems-Emblem heartless eat your heart after taking it. Usually eaten by already slain heartless.

There are no facts behind this, just a really well thought out guess, kinda.

Xehanort was a pureblood. I know, you're all saying that Xehanort had an Emblem. This is just a theory, but because he controlled the heartless, he put it there.

So anyway, Xehanort technically still had his heart [captive heart] which was in Riku which was able to hold his body on this world and not form a heartless.

As for Riku's heart, it was pushed out, and sent to darkness as a whole.

Either way,

AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!
~~~

Now to respond to your real topic:

I don't think that's what it means. I think it has to do with him losing his memories, or the collective memories of all who knew him.

Also Nomura said that

it is a scene that happens in the past but could be interpreted as it is in the future

[Riku_The_Fallen]

Originally Posted by OmniChaos

Yes you can. Riku never turned into a Heartless. He was only possesed by one.

ok evory one says you must become a heartless to have a nobody. kairi was not a heartless, yet she had one. i think you can have a nobody more than one way (like kairi) so dont rule out the posibility of riku not haveing one. you gata remember he lost his heart to and was cast in to darkness his body just met him on the other side. but what if it dident had he (like sora) kept his heart and form with out his body. you never know, nomura can do anything he wants to this the story. he can make pink ponys kill sora in the end (witch i dout) im just say keep an open minde.

[HadesDragon]

Originally Posted by Riku_The_Fallen

ok evory one says you must become a heartless to have a nobody. kairi was not a heartless, yet she had one.

That's because she was a PoH, and thusly she COULDN'T have a heartless. Same can't be said for Riku. Though, his heart DID leave his body, but that doesn't matter in this case.

i think you can have a nobody more than one way (like kairi) so dont rule out the posibility of riku not haveing one.

No. He doesn't have one, and you're wrong.

you gata remember he lost his heart to and was cast in to darkness his body just met him on the other side

Eh, the Riku in that dark world is just Riku's heart. His body is being used by Ansem at that time.

. but what if it dident had he (like sora) kept his heart and form with out his body.

What happened was this: at some point, Riku's heart was pushed out of its body to the dark realm, where KH is. The "Riku" in that cutscene is just his heart. Later, when Ansem was vanquished, Riku regained his body. Meaning, someone was using his body the whole time. A nobody couldn't have been created.

you never know, nomura can do anything he wants to this the story. he can make pink ponys kill sora in the end (witch i dout) im just say keep an open minde.

There's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing something that just isn't true, and that never happen.

Riku does NOT have a nobody, and if he did, it's NOT Axel. End of story.

Also, reviving an old thread=not good for you at all.