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Old 02/12/05, 04:19 PM   #16
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Anyone else have a theory?
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Old 02/12/05, 04:52 PM   #17
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Um..... Maybe the 13 points are important, but I think that some of the points are irrelevant. Like 2 and 1; and the one about the Gathering.
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Old 02/12/05, 05:08 PM   #18
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I'm not flaming you, Umiary, but the one about the Gathering is VERY important.

Why?

In KH and KH:FM, why do you think Nomura put those secret endings? For s**ts and giggles? NO! He knew waaaaaaaay before he even finished KH that there would be a KH II. Why do you think the game would end so inconclusively with Sora and gang chasing Pluto don't that road and Sora making a promise to Kairi? EVERYTHING in ASAS/DD is very relevant. It may not seem like it because those videos were made two years ago, but Normua isn't a jerk. He won't abandon the ASAS/DD and the 13 Points Chart.

He's way more organized than that.

Man, o man!

EDIT:

Also, CoM introduced us to the Organization (aka the Gathering aka the 13th Order!). They only showed us a handful of them (the mutanous ones) so we don't fully know the rest of the Organization's motives. Especially Axels.

For instance:
-Who are they really?
-What do they want?
-Are they good, bad, neutral?

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Old 02/12/05, 05:12 PM   #19
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*sniff sniff* Ok, *sniff* I'll just sign off, sorry to be a bother. *runs away crying*
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Old 02/12/05, 05:14 PM   #20
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o_o....

I didn't mean to shoot you down, kick you a few times, then cut your heart out....

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Old 02/12/05, 05:25 PM   #21
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Alright, before I begin I understand that DD was made about two years ago and a lot of people say they feel that it isn't relivant. I would like to disagree. In my opinion the release of CoM has perhaps made ASAS/DD and the 13 Points even stronger.

Why?

Here's my take in the 13 Points:

XIII
"Where's Sora?"
"We must find him." Interp: This is most likely a statement made by Riku, the BHK, and/or Mickey. BHK asking 'Where's Sora?' in ASAS is pretty obvious. Their reason for having to find him? Who knows, but it's probably urgent.

XII
[Ansem's other report]
"A creation born of ignorance." Interp: Obvious it's Ansem's other report, one that is not in KH or KHFM. But what could he be referring to? I believe he may be referring to the Dusk. Why? Well, I think the Dusk are Heartless, but they were manufactured. Who knows, I'm just going out on a limb.

XI
"Behind the Darkness
Door to the Light." Interp: Simply put, it's saying behind the Darkness there is alwats a door to the Light.

X
The secret place
"His voice... it's left me."
"This time... I'll fight." Interp: I believe this is a statement made by Kairi. The secret place is on the Destiny Islands and that's where she currently is. Perhaps it is during the time of CoM (either when Sora is receiving false memories or when he's in that incubator) that Kairi can no longer feel/hear him. And, for whatever reason, this time she'll fight.

IX
A world between=A forgotten world
The gathering Interp:The gathering, before CoM, was the name for the Organization. The world between -the forgotten world- is probably where they originate.

VIII
NOBODY
The third enemy- Nobody
"Who is Nobody, you ask? They are the non-existent ones." Interp: I think it's quite obvious this another reference to the Organization. Throughout CoM Axel refers to himself and the others as 'nobodies.' And I think this statement proves that the Organization IS the enemy.

VII
ENDLESS
"What took so long, Kairi?"
"Can we do it? Against that."
HEARTLESS
"We have come for you, my liege."
"You are the source of all Heartless." Interp: O.O......... Um, OK! ENDLESS and the stuff after...Jesus, who the hell knows? I'm lost on this one. But HEARTLESS is obviously referring to someone who is the source of all Heartless. Ironically, it *could* be King Mickey....but I doubt it.

VI
[The 13th Order]
Metamorphosis
"Sora?"
"Sora... why?"
"Your Highness! But why? Interp: 'Metamorphosis' means to change. And the stuff after, who knows. Maybe The first is obviously dealing with Sora. Maybe he's joining ranks with the Organization? And as for the last one: I believe it's Donald and Goofy wondering why Mickey is dressed in the Unknown attire. I myself have a theory on that, but to mention it I'd be shot down. And I guess the 13th Order has to do with the Organization...Meh.

V
Change
The third key Interp: This has to do with the 'key' I think...obviously XD The Third Key might have to do with the 3rd World: The World of the In-Between.

IV
End of the world
"What is this place?"
"Is this the answer you've been looking for?"
"This is the wolrd in its true form."
"Maybe our journey means nothing after all." Interp: In KH the End of the World was the level where a World was about to end. It was basically in Darkness. Ansem said that all Worlds begin in Darkness and so end. So, maybe they're at another end of the world. The World in it's true form. Darkness.

III
Paradise Interp: In FM one of the Ansem reports mentioned the Four Worlds and which one would lead to paradise, or something or other. Which world is it?

II
"We'll go together." Interp: When this comes up in DD there are four slots: one with the GEU, one with the BFU, one with the BWU, and one with the SU.

Now, I don't think those are the ones who will 'Go together.' I think that it means the people who belong to the Four Worlds will 'go together.' But to where? Perhaps to open to the door to Light and close the door to Darkness forever!

This is just my theory. Please feel free to comment, flame, and add your own theories.
comments: XIII-mickey and riku don't say 'where's sora'. bhk does. in asas he talks and it interprets it as 'where's sora'. X-kairi already said 'this time, i'll fight' in kh1, where sora was a heartless, she said 'this time, i'll fight' and embraced him. II- i'm not sure if this was already said, but i think it stopped at two to resemble kh2.
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Old 02/12/05, 05:28 PM   #22
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lol, sorry. When I said that XIII was a statement made by Riku, Mickey, or BHK is meant the 'We must find him' part.

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I'm not that retarded
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Old 02/13/05, 02:51 AM   #23
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WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS OPEN!

Post any theories etc! The 13 Points is mor eimportant than you think!!!
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Old 02/13/05, 03:15 AM   #24
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this is so nice i can't comment on it yet god damn i saught i was smart.
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Old 02/13/05, 01:44 PM   #25
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Hey, yeah I agree with the Gathering thing, sorry.
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Old 02/13/05, 05:44 PM   #26
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Old 02/13/05, 05:48 PM   #27
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Hey you are one heck of a smart person. That's alot of proof. I beleive so. This is so good I'm going to tell my friends. Wow before I never got any of it and now I do. Even though I didn't read it all because it was so freaken long I like it and I know that's good.
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Old 02/13/05, 06:19 PM   #28
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There's something in DD or it might be ASAS, about 'Ansem's other report.' I've been thinking lately that the 13 points are the other report. That or each point has something to do with each member of the organization.

Also this may just be my short sightedness but there didn't seem to be a #1 on the chart.
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