Organization XII members, gone or hiding?

[CHARGE]

Originally Posted by Psichosis34

Off topic sorry Kh3 is on PS3 and maybe ps2 save your money and get this around!!!!!!!!!

You dont know that. It could be on any system.


Anyways, the Org people die... but if there heartless is defeated also, than they become their original selfs, as said in a Kingdom Hearts Magna.

[Dantez of Divinity]

^ well not any system. AND STOP GETTING OFF TOPIC. Make a new thread if you guys want to talk about that some else mentioned it in 2 other threads.
bowchicka make a new thread

[Obscured fire]

LOL!!! Great theory!!!
My thought: they aren't dead,they are just on vacations!!XD

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by HeartOfKratos84

The Organization XIII members that you fight in CoM and KH2, are they gone or are they just hiding in the darkness somewhere?

my theroy is that when an Organization XIII member is defeated they return to the darkness and regenerate. this is just a theroy, with vary little facts to suport it.

Axel is himself, as a whole.

I'm sure Xehanort is as well

But the other's I'm not sure. I believe that they'd probably bring popular characters back, like Axel, but nothing solid at this moment.

[Roxas9001]

How do we know if it aint 25 members in all or something?

[AquaKat167]

I'm hoping there only hiding

[Emohero666]

Originally Posted by Psichosis34

Off topic sorry Kh3 is on PS3 and maybe ps2 save your money and get this around!!!!!!!!!

yeah um dude no they arnet that retarded to do that

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by Roxas9001

How do we know if it aint 25 members in all or something?

Because it's called Organization XIII. [Thirteen.]
If there were 25 members, they'd be called
Organization XXV

[fallen soul]

Organization XIII are most likely still existant for two reasons
1) The defeated organization members from CoM appear in final mix
2) Organization members are actually classed as being nothing, so how can they die. once it has been created it exists and can't be returned to it.

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by fallen soul

Organization XIII are most likely still existant for two reasons
1) The defeated organization members from CoM appear in final mix
2) Organization members are actually classed as being nothing, so how can they die. once it has been created it exists and can't be returned to it.

1. They're just DATA battles, not the real Organization members. The only one confirmed to be alive is Axel, and even THAT'S still shaky as it only is said in the manga, and we're not currently sure if the manga canon lines up with the game canon.
2.

Originally Posted by KH2

Xemnas: Surely we nothings must be the same; eternal.
Riku: You're right there Xemnas. Darkness and Light go on forever. Nothing probably goes on forever too.
Sora: But guess guess what? That doesn't mean YOU'RE eternal
Xemnas: No more eternal than that radience of yours.

Proof of Existence. A place that is there to show literal proof of existence.

Nobodies are bodies and souls. They fade [as their old selves] from this plane of existence, The world of light, and reappear in the chasm between light and dark. Twilight Town. From there they are moved to TWTNW. They still exist, just in the twilight.

When a nobody fades, it's heart searches for it. If it reaches the nobody in time, they become whole again. Otherwise the heart is in suspended animation, and the body dies.

Somebody take this kid to a burn ward, and welcome to the forums

[*TwilightNight*]

Actually, is not the manga that said that Axel returned to his original self, is the KHII novels. Two different things.

While the manga is a comic and follows its own canon, the novel follows the game and tells what wasn't put in (scenes, what the rest were doing, etc.) that Nomura wanted, but couldn't add in KH2 because of disk space.

The members are not "dead" per se. They were never meant to exist, they're Nobodies, they're simply shadows that happened to have a form or shell. The 13th Order were special in the fact that they had strong enough hearts to obtain a human form, and powers. But once that form is gone, they return to what they really are: Nothing. Lost in the dark. That's why they fade.

However, as Nomura stated in an interview, if their Heartless is destroyed, and they follow the same path before or after, they can return to their original selves.

The thing is, other than Axel or Roxas, probably Xemnas (since his Heartless was killed in KH1), we don't know what other members managed or were lucky enough to have the same fate. That's the question, which did, who didn't, did they at all?

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Actually, is not the manga that said that Axel returned to his original self, is the KHII novels. Two different things.

The thing is, other than Axel or Roxas, probably Xemnas (since his Heartless was killed in KH1), we don't know what other members managed or were lucky enough to have the same fate. That's the question, which did, who didn't, did they at all?

you KNOW what I meant though, did you not?

And I mentioned Xehanort earlier, but I forgot that time. Well, after we beat KH2, didn't we all say "Hmmm, I have a felling that isn't the end of Xehanort."? Did we not?

[Twilight Path]

Couldn't have put it better myself, PostMentalFerocity and *Twilight Night* They said as much in the game, nobodies are nothingness, destined to fade away. Since they never existed, they cannot die, and can not even cease to exist, but they are erased from the universe.

If you want a full rundown... Xemnas=killed (for a lack of a better word) by Sora, same with Xigbar and Xaldin. Vexen was killed by Axel. Riku killed Lexeaus and Zexion, Sora killed Saix, Axel killed himself, and Sora killed the rest (Demyx, Luxord, Larxene, and Marluxia), except Roxas, obviously.

When Axel "killed" Vexen, he said "now you can be nothing, instead of being nobody" or something like that.

[Xehanort: 17]

OrganizatioN XIII: Destroyed...
Man it would be CooL if some of them returned.

[boo_shoe2000]

they're really dead. those you battled in FM are just datas but they are really dead.