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Old 06/27/07, 09:35 PM   #1
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Hello, this is Mythological One. This entry is my first on the forum, and I would greatly appreciate a response to my theory. It's really more of an observation. Forgive me if I am stating something obvious and something long discovered, but has anyone noticed that the bald guy in the for the next Kingdom Hearts looks like Ansem the Wise? I have an eye for detail- Look at the eyes, the cheeks and the mouth if his lack of hair throws you off. On this web site he is referred to as Unknown Elder Mage (U.E.M.), but I have not seen anyone suggest that it might be Ansem the Wise, or perhaps his Heartless, or maybe the result of him being exposed to the explosion of his machine in Kingdom Hearts II. I don't know a lot about final mix or anything, but this is just my observation. Unless there is something that I missed in final mix or something, we really don't know what happened to Ansem the Wise when his machine exploded. If it could turn Riku back into Riku, than what could it have done to someone in closer proximity? I mean really, it would not be a shock if Ansem the Wise finally turned into some sort of a bad guy finally. People have been using his name while doing bad things in the last two games, so is it a stretch to imagine that in the third game the villain might actually be, or may have come from the Wise and Knowledgeable, true Ansem?

Knowledge is power- and it looks like no ones power was tantamount to that of this so called "Unknown Elder Mage (U.E.M.)," after all, whose wisdom and knowledge was greater than that of Ansem the Wise? Until The Third game comes out, I think I shall call him Ansem the Corrupted, formerly know as Ansem the Wise.


P.S.- Remember, in every other trailer there were at least two people who seemed recognizable and they had connections to people we already knew.
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Old 06/27/07, 09:38 PM   #2
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well it sounds ok! don't know about that being asem the wise I kind of think that is xenhort but I do not have proof!
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well it sounds ok! don't know about that being asem the wise I kind of think that is xenhort but I do not have proof!
no seriously. the fact that UEM IS xehanort has been stated in like....one hundred threads already?
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Old 06/27/07, 10:29 PM   #4
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I am not sure.Does anyone of you ever read the secret ansems reports? One of them says that Xehanort appeared without memories of his past.At the secret ending it says something about 'XEHANORT MEMORIES' maybe that's something to do with that strange elder on the secret ending.Correct me if i said something wrong.
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Old 06/27/07, 10:36 PM   #5
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no seriously. the fact that UEM IS xehanort has been stated in like....one hundred threads already?
I'm confused... or maybe I'm not and I am right. Correct me if I am wrong, but Xehanort's heartless and nobody were just pretending to be Ansem or Xemnas. Heartless and nody look "all most exactly the same as the originals with the slightest variations". Xehanort's heartless and nobody looked almost exactly like his portriat that was foun in Ansems study, SO... Who is this bald guy who looks nothing like Xehanort and a lot like Ansem the Wise?

By the way, has it yet been revealed if the original Xehanort is still alive?
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Old 06/27/07, 10:39 PM   #6
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no it has not
well it really never has been confrimed that nobodys always look like their orignal!
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Old 06/27/07, 10:43 PM   #7
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It's good that you metioned that. It reminds me of another one of my theories. I didn't want to netion it because it makes no sense, but what if Xehanort was a nobody when Ansem the Wise met him in the first place? If I recall correctly, Ansem said he had abilities that did not seem normal or human and on top of that, he had no memories. But then, how could a nobody have a heartless and another nobody? He couldn't unless events prior to his meeting with Ansem the Wise led to him being split into a Heartless and a nobody, and they just have not been revealed to us. --- Again, just and idea... perhaps not even worth mentioning.
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Old 06/27/07, 10:52 PM   #8
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DUDE! LOOK AT SORA AND ROXAS! KAIRI AND NAMINE! XEHANORT AND "XEMAS"! ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

Besides, I don't remeber where, but I do remember reading something in the game that said that Nobodies look almost exactly the same as the people the come with the slightest variations. I know that much. Find where it says that, and if you can't then I probably am wrong... or AT LEAST i can't prove that I am right.

By the way... Xehanort already had a nobody and a heartless, so what are the three knightly soliders in the trailer fighting now? The original Xehanort? It could be but I doubt it.
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Old 06/27/07, 10:55 PM   #9
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yes the original xehanort is what everybody says! and dudeyou don't have to yell!
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Old 06/27/07, 11:06 PM   #10
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Another thing... when Namine and Roxas were created, their apearances had something to do with the way Sora and Kairi remembered each other. Maybe the memories of Xehanort have something to do with the appearance the strange elder on the secret ending, who I believe is some kind of heartless or nobody or somekind of Kingdom Heart creature that is a derivative of another being.

P.S. sorry for yelling qwe, and dude was just the first word to come to mind.
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Old 06/27/07, 11:08 PM   #11
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can anyone at least agree with me when I say the the elder on the secret ending looks like The real Ansem?
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Old 06/27/07, 11:14 PM   #12
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well the real asem as blond hair! and he looks like the xehanort's heartless!
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Old 06/27/07, 11:19 PM   #13
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can you put up a picture of xehanort if you have one? 'cause I just don't see how that guy looks anything like the bald man with the yellow eyes and unmatched powers, who the three knightly guys were fighting. We ARE talking about the same guy right?
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Old 06/27/07, 11:22 PM   #14
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I'll add some of the things I know so we can get somewhere.

Mythological first of all I'd like to overthrow your second theory. Xehanort could not possibly already be a nobody when Ansem met him, since he had no powers or knowledge whatsoever. Ansem and Xemnas acquired their powers when they became a heartless and a nobody. Xehanort was studying the heart when he fell into darkness. He wasn't in it.

As for all the nobodies being the same as their original selves that's nonsense too. ONLY people with a VERY STRONG character and heart retain their shape after becoming Nobodies with the sllightest variations.

The point you're refferring to is Sora's meeting with Yen Sid who said what you say. but Yen Sid didn't know crap. Yen Sid said that each time a heartless is born so is a nobody but that is not true. Nomura himself has said that only when a person of strong heart becomes a heartless a nobody is risen. And it makes sense otherwise there would be as many Nobodies as there were heartless. If the Nobodies were as many as the heartless then Sora would be in serious trouble( try and remember how many heartless were in Hollow Bastion and how many came crawling when Kingdom Hearts was smashed by DiZ's machine). Sora would've been slaughtered .


Now as for the first of your theories many people have seen that. And yes he does look like a hairless Ansem, as much as the creature next to him resembles (in body) Dark Riku from KH1.
And yes they are both related to Xehanort's memories as Nomura has made clear. He has given an interview which clears up many stuff if u want to read it pm me and I'll send you the link.
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Old 06/27/07, 11:22 PM   #15
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i am saying the guy you fight at the end of kh1 looks the same as the old man] in the secret ending!
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