Sora didn't kill the Org. members

**Puck** · 04/09/07, 11:53 AM

After playing some of the game again and by looking at the evidence( including some Re CoM cutscenes), I have come to the conclusion that Sora did not kill all the Org. members he encountered. The only ones we saw him kill were Luxord, Marluxia, and Xemnas. The others we did not see any scene showing Sora dealing the death blow. So my theory is, Donald and Goofy mainly Donald killed them. Sora fought the Org. members but Donald and Goofy killed them( minus Xaldin. I do believe Beast killed him).

evil_kenshin · 04/09/07, 12:21 PM

the point of this topic is? in any case wrong, since riku killed one organization member, then on a technicality (while the death blow is never seen) two members (his clone killed him )

PossessedRiku · 04/09/07, 12:47 PM

eh? which one did riku kill?

Celestial Star · 04/09/07, 01:39 PM

*sigh*

He didn't kill them neither did donald, goofy nor riku. Organization members CANNOT be killed. In order to be killed you must exist. Organization members DO NOT exist, so how can they be killed? And when you kil lsomeone he or she dies. As I said, how can organization members die, if they don't exist? They simply jsut disappear without a trace.

**Lycanthrope** · 04/09/07, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Riku_kun

*sigh*

He didn't kill them neither did donald, goofy nor riku. Organization members CANNOT be killed. In order to be killed you must exist. Organization members DO NOT exist, so how can they be killed? And when you kil lsomeone he or she dies. As I said, how can organization members die, if they don't exist? They simply jsut disappear without a trace.

Thank you for pointing that out.

They DEFEATED the members. They couldn't die.

Besides, Axel defeated Vexen. You guys left that out.

**chaywa** · 04/09/07, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by captain js

They DEFEATED the members. They couldn't die.

So the gravestones were for nothing then??

TheMuffinMan · 04/09/07, 04:12 PM

They're not gravestones, Chaywa....

**Lycanthrope** · 04/09/07, 04:44 PM

They didn't die. They just faded into darkness. Like in KHCoM when Larxene said "I'm fading", or something along those lines.

**Mr. Brightside** · 04/09/07, 05:59 PM

Actually he didnt he just weakened them so much that they faded. Vexen was killed by Axel, Larxene after her fight just faded, Demyx same, Saix same, Xaldin when he faded it sounded painful so yeah he killed him, the others were either killed by something else or just faded after being weakend

**Sir Meta Knight** · 04/09/07, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Face Down

Actually he didnt he just weakened them so much that they faded. Vexen was killed by Axel, Larxene after her fight just faded, Demyx same, Saix same, Xaldin when he faded it sounded painful so yeah he killed him, the others were either killed by something else or just faded after being weakend

...weakening until fading counts as death in my book. Non-existance = death. lol
Thus this argument phails. lol

I also find it real sad you attempt to hide behind "sora only weakened them until they faded" bullshxt. Pardon me, but did Sora hold back against Vexen? Did he really hate him, and all the other Organization 13 members? Yes and Yes.

It's BS, that argument.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riku_kun

*sigh*

He didn't kill them neither did donald, goofy nor riku. Organization members CANNOT be killed. In order to be killed you must exist. Organization members DO NOT exist, so how can they be killed? And when you kil lsomeone he or she dies. As I said, how can organization members die, if they don't exist? They simply jsut disappear without a trace.

Physical they did god damn exist. Thus they can die.
Another phailure. lol.

**Lycanthrope** · 04/09/07, 06:03 PM

I also believe the 'gravestones' were just there to piece in clues from KHCoM.

Vexen did fade , though. His body disappeared, just like Larxene's.

**Sir Meta Knight** · 04/09/07, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain js

I also believe the 'gravestones' were just there to piece in clues from KHCoM.

Vexen did fade , though. His body disappeared, just like Larxene's.

Fade my ass. He did fade, but he's dead. Dead as a doornail.
Thus Sora killed him. Inflicting fatal wounds that will result in death on a foe is murder. You can be tried and sent to jail for it.

**Puck** · 04/09/07, 08:08 PM

^There's no evidence that shows Sora dealing the death blows on these guys. Vexen was fully alive and sora wasn't attempting to kill him. It was Axel who killed Vexen and it kind of horrified Sora( i have that scene on youtube as full evidence). But truly you have no evidence to back up that Sora killed Demyx, Saix, Xigbar, Larxene, and Xaldin. Because in their death scenes, I did not see Sora deal a death blow or death blows. So it's my belief that Donald and Goofy might be the true killers.

Steve · 04/09/07, 08:16 PM

I really can't believe this thread exists.

rexenXIII · 04/09/07, 08:46 PM

also just to add something, the "gravestones" were not gravestones. the room that all that is in is called "proof of existence". its just showing that they were part of the organization. its only when the door thing or the marker showing their weapon, turns red or when the door is smashed, would it considered to be a gravestone. just letting you know thats all

04/09/07, 11:53 AM	#1
Puck THE GHOST ELF of LONG BEACH Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 21 Posts: 4,818 Rep Power: 9	Sora didn't kill the Org. members After playing some of the game again and by looking at the evidence( including some Re CoM cutscenes), I have come to the conclusion that Sora did not kill all the Org. members he encountered. The only ones we saw him kill were Luxord, Marluxia, and Xemnas. The others we did not see any scene showing Sora dealing the death blow. So my theory is, Donald and Goofy mainly Donald killed them. Sora fought the Org. members but Donald and Goofy killed them( minus Xaldin. I do believe Beast killed him).

04/09/07, 12:21 PM	#2
evil_kenshin greatest of the ungratest Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: australia Age: 21 Posts: 2,142 Rep Power: 7	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members the point of this topic is? in any case wrong, since riku killed one organization member, then on a technicality (while the death blow is never seen) two members (his clone killed him )

04/09/07, 12:47 PM	#3
PossessedRiku Disney Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Washington, DC Age: 24 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members eh? which one did riku kill?

04/09/07, 01:39 PM	#4
Celestial Star ▫│▫Take me to the stars ▫│▫ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 18 Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 4	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members sigh He didn't kill them neither did donald, goofy nor riku. Organization members CANNOT be killed. In order to be killed you must exist. Organization members DO NOT exist, so how can they be killed? And when you kil lsomeone he or she dies. As I said, how can organization members die, if they don't exist? They simply jsut disappear without a trace.

04/09/07, 04:12 PM	#7
TheMuffinMan Dying is Fine Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Candy mountain Age: 19 Posts: 10,577 Rep Power: 20	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members They're not gravestones, Chaywa....

04/09/07, 04:44 PM	#8
Lycanthrope Orville Redenbacher WOO Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Age: 15 Posts: 4,915 Rep Power: 11	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members They didn't die. They just faded into darkness. Like in KHCoM when Larxene said "I'm fading", or something along those lines.

04/09/07, 05:59 PM	#9
Mr. Brightside Future Democrate. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: United States Age: 17 Posts: 6,400 Rep Power: 13	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members Actually he didnt he just weakened them so much that they faded. Vexen was killed by Axel, Larxene after her fight just faded, Demyx same, Saix same, Xaldin when he faded it sounded painful so yeah he killed him, the others were either killed by something else or just faded after being weakend

04/09/07, 06:03 PM	#11
Lycanthrope Orville Redenbacher WOO Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Age: 15 Posts: 4,915 Rep Power: 11	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members I also believe the 'gravestones' were just there to piece in clues from KHCoM. Vexen did fade , though. His body disappeared, just like Larxene's.

04/09/07, 08:08 PM	#13
Puck THE GHOST ELF of LONG BEACH Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 21 Posts: 4,818 Rep Power: 9	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members ^There's no evidence that shows Sora dealing the death blows on these guys. Vexen was fully alive and sora wasn't attempting to kill him. It was Axel who killed Vexen and it kind of horrified Sora( i have that scene on youtube as full evidence). But truly you have no evidence to back up that Sora killed Demyx, Saix, Xigbar, Larxene, and Xaldin. Because in their death scenes, I did not see Sora deal a death blow or death blows. So it's my belief that Donald and Goofy might be the true killers.

04/09/07, 08:16 PM	#14
Steve proud wii owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,324 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members I really can't believe this thread exists.

04/09/07, 08:46 PM	#15
rexenXIII Keyblade Novice Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Earth, where do you think? Age: 15 Posts: 94 Rep Power: 2	Re: Sora didn't kill the Org. members also just to add something, the "gravestones" were not gravestones. the room that all that is in is called "proof of existence". its just showing that they were part of the organization. its only when the door thing or the marker showing their weapon, turns red or when the door is smashed, would it considered to be a gravestone. just letting you know thats all

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