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Old 04/09/07, 09:21 PM   #16
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^There's no evidence that shows Sora dealing the death blows on these guys. Vexen was fully alive and sora wasn't attempting to kill him. It was Axel who killed Vexen and it kind of horrified Sora( i have that scene on youtube as full evidence). But truly you have no evidence to back up that Sora killed Demyx, Saix, Xigbar, Larxene, and Xaldin. Because in their death scenes, I did not see Sora deal a death blow or death blows. So it's my belief that Donald and Goofy might be the true killers.
Neither do you.
Axel may have killed Vexen, but Sora was fighting Xaldin and those other ones, and if you say he didn't kill them then you're full of it.

"OH, maybe Xaldin died of a heart attack! lolz"
"Maybe Xigbar dropped dead and faded for an overdose of meds! lolz. I is so originalsz."

No. I'm sorry, no.
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Old 04/09/07, 09:33 PM   #17
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agreeing with most people here, like redux, this thread is stupid.

even though you don't see sora doing the "death" blow to some members, you ALSO don't see anyone else doing the death blow. i think that its expected that sora killed them. some of the just died because sora pounded them down so much, that they faded. luxord was given the death blow because sora was destroying his time, not luxord himself.
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Old 04/09/07, 09:37 PM   #18
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^No, what i'm saying is Sora didn't kill them. One of his party members did. I think we all remember how much Beast wanted to slice and dice Xaldin. So i believe that Sora fought Xaldin but Beast is the one who killed Xaldin. Donald and Goofy killed Xigbar, Saix, and Demyx. The only Org. members we know that Sora has killed were Marluxia, Luxord, and Xemnas. The others were no doubt by the hands of Donald and Goofy.

Reason I say this is because in several occasions, Sora has spared his enemies lives. He spared Pete twice, he spared Demyx in the Underworld, he spared Vexen, he spared Axel in Castle Oblivion, and we have to remember he still hasn't killed Sephiroth. So going by clean evidence. Sora did not kill those Org. members. A party member did. It can actually go either way because we did not see Sora deal a death blow on any of those enemies and yet we didn't see a party member do it. So we can't obviously assume Sora did the killings when we didn't see him do it.
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Old 04/09/07, 09:56 PM   #19
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^No, what i'm saying is Sora didn't kill them. One of his party members did. I think we all remember how much Beast wanted to slice and dice Xaldin. So i believe that Sora fought Xaldin but Beast is the one who killed Xaldin. Donald and Goofy killed Xigbar, Saix, and Demyx. The only Org. members we know that Sora has killed were Marluxia, Luxord, and Xemnas. The others were no doubt by the hands of Donald and Goofy.

Reason I say this is because in several occasions, Sora has spared his enemies lives. He spared Pete twice, he spared Demyx in the Underworld, he spared Vexen, he spared Axel in Castle Oblivion, and we have to remember he still hasn't killed Sephiroth. So going by clean evidence. Sora did not kill those Org. members. A party member did. It can actually go either way because we did not see Sora deal a death blow on any of those enemies and yet we didn't see a party member do it. So we can't obviously assume Sora did the killings when we didn't see him do it.
^ Bull. I'll pick this apart, piece by piece.

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No, what i'm saying is Sora didn't kill them. One of his party members did.
I find it extremely amusing you attempt to pass on the blame to other characters in defence of this.

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I think we all remember how much Beast wanted to slice and dice Xaldin. So i believe that Sora fought Xaldin but Beast is the one who killed Xaldin.
You can choose if Beast is even in that fight. o-o And it never shows Beast killing him - if it did, then that would be proof. But if it didn't, we have to assume it's Sora. Right? Because logically, we can assume that no other member would be strong enough to do so. Donald and Goofy get fxcked up when you fight Xaldin - they always die. ALWAYS. And you know by playing. D:

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Donald and Goofy killed Xigbar, Saix, and Demyx.
WTF IS THIS.
You have no proof. This phails. Donald and Goofy are weak.

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The only Org. members we know that Sora has killed were Marluxia, Luxord, and Xemnas.
Thus proving my point - Sora does kill. And that last part is bull - we know he kills a hell of a lot more people.

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The others were no doubt by the hands of Donald and Goofy.
No. Donald and Goofy are far too weak to do this.

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Reason I say this is because in several occasions, Sora has spared his enemies lives.
We're not talking about his other enemies. We're talking about Organization 13. He doesn't spare them.

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He spared Pete twice, he spared Demyx in the Underworld, he spared Vexen, he spared Axel in Castle Oblivion, and we have to remember he still hasn't killed Sephiroth.
Pete is a fag, Demyx fled (he wasn't spared), Vexen left as well, Axel pretended to die, and Sora can't kill Sephiroth. Don't twist all the shxt up.

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So going by clean evidence. Sora did not kill those Org. members.
Doesn't matter what he did do, only what he will do.

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A party member did. It can actually go either way because we did not see Sora deal a death blow on any of those enemies and yet we didn't see a party member do it. So we can't obviously assume Sora did the killings when we didn't see him do it.
OK.
His party members are too weak. They always die in the game. Thus, they cannot deal the death blow.
And anyway, you ALWAYS deal the final blow in the games. ALWAYS, on ALL bosses. You can't say some shxt happens in the five seconds it takes to go from the final cut to the end boss scene. No.

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Old 04/09/07, 10:06 PM   #20
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boy, this is a dumb. It doesn't matter, Puck
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I still have not seen any solid evidence that shows that Sora killed them. You're forgetting Donald is a court magician and Goofy is the captain of the Disney knights. Those are some high rankings. So we can't say they are not capable of killing.

As I said this could go either way. We don't see Sora kill Demyx, Saix, Xigbar, or Xaldin. So we could always blame him for it, but there's still no solid proof that says he killed them.

My theory is, Sora fights these Org. guys in an amazing battle but it is Donald and Goofy who dish out the killing blows.
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I still have not seen any solid evidence that shows that Sora killed them. You're forgetting Donald is a court magician and Goofy is the captain of the Disney knights. Those are some high rankings. So we can't say they are not capable of killing.

As I said this could go either way. We don't see Sora kill Demyx, Saix, Xigbar, or Xaldin. So we could always blame him for it, but there's still no solid proof that says he killed them.

My theory is, Sora fights these Org. guys in an amazing battle but it is Donald and Goofy who dish out the killing blows.
this has nothing to do with the game at all. I'm sorry, but its pointless. Would you be happy if they said Sora & co. defeated the Org.?
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Old 04/09/07, 10:34 PM   #23
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ok.......

all of the members fall to the ground (KH2) when they faded away, with the exception of demyx, however his weapon disapeers and then he fades away. demyx looks like he could still fight, then his "sitar" disapeers, and he screams "No WaY!!!?!?!??!?!?". what makes them disapeer is when sora kicks the crap out of that member, and then the member's weapon disapeers, with the exception of xemnas and luxord.

so this thread sucks
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There dead, it doesn't matter which party member killed them,

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Old 04/09/07, 10:43 PM   #25
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I think I proved my point. Sora didn't kill those certain Org. members. Period. Check mate, I win. i think this thread can be closed now.
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I think I proved my point. Sora didn't kill those certain Org. members. Period. Check mate, I win. i think this thread can be closed now.
this thread could of been closed in the beginning. you didn't win anything. The only discussion going on was how dumb-ass you and you thread are.
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This thread was a response to all those who blamed Sora for the death of the Org. members. I have just presented cold clean evidence that Sora in fact did not kill the Org. members. And I also like to point out that if Sora indeed wanted to kill all nobodies, he would killed Namine and Roxas. But he didn't. Roxas was on the ground and Sora did not deal a death blow. Thus further proving that Sora couldn't have killed the other members. Besides we didn't see him kill them.
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Old 04/09/07, 11:26 PM   #28
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This thread was a response to all those who blamed Sora for the death of the Org. members. I have just presented cold clean evidence that Sora in fact did not kill the Org. members. And I also like to point out that if Sora indeed wanted to kill all nobodies, he would killed Namine and Roxas. But he didn't. Roxas was on the ground and Sora did not deal a death blow. Thus further proving that Sora couldn't have killed the other members. Besides we didn't see him kill them.
You have presented cold, hard bullshit.
I'm getting annoyed by you. =D You rehash the same arguments over and over even after I myself took them apart, bit by bit.

It ticks me off to no end. Shut up or pull out something new - and that comment about Namine and Roxas?
Dude...that was just dumb. o-o

I'm not responding to your crap anymore. kaykaybyecheerzwithurlameness

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Old 04/09/07, 11:43 PM   #29
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^I don't think you really listened to anything I said. And all you did was say that Donald and Goofy are weak. The game proves you wrong. Donald and Goofy are powerful and are probably the ones who killed the Org. members. Sora just fought them like any hero would.
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Well we saw Sora deal the death blow to Marluxia, Luxord, Xemnas, and possibly Roxas . So I think if they really did die then yeah, Sora killed them.

Xaladin, Xigbar, Larxene, Demyx,and Saix were fighting Sora and his party so we can't be sure who dealt the blow that killed them( If they really died).

Vexen was killed by Axel and Zexion was killed by the Riku Replica( However we're not sure if Zexion is dead or not.)

Axel and Lexaeus kinda of commited suicide in a certain way. Although Lexaeus was apperantly gonna die anyway from the injuries he sustained from his battle with Riku.

This is just my take on the issue, I think that the Org. members( with the exception of Roxas) all died. I think that since its partly a Disney game they toned it down by saying they faded into darkness.
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